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Titan Killer? Exciting new fitness equipment news!

Discussion in 'Gym Equipment' started by John Stone, Aug 12, 2009.

  1. BODYFORCE

    BODYFORCE Well-Known Member
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    You are very welcome! Website should be up before Halloween, so a little over 30 days from now.

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    The website is getting close. Still compiling some more information. Hope to have something for you to see soon. Thanks for you patience as always.
     
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    Bodyforce Website

    It looks like the Bodyforce website is now up and running although it doesn't appear to be complete. Been lurking on John's site for a while and anxious to learn more about the X9.
     
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    It looks like the website is more complete now. Any word on when a functional unit will be available?
     
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    Bodyforce Update

    Any word from Bodyforce on the x9 status? Looks like they last visited the page in early November, almost four months ago! Their website is also down again for maintenance. I've been lurking John's site for a while and hoping to be an early purchaser of the X9 but waiting Bodyforce out is proving to be difficult.:bang:
     
  6. BODYFORCE

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    Sorry we haven't updated for a while Txesquire. Still getting the first units completed and ready for testing including the one John will receive.

    I'm not sure if you saw the videos from a few months ago where we did drop tests on the X9 using our heavy duty safety spotters as well as our patent pending strap system.

    If not take a look below.



    Remarks which will also be posted to our blog:

    You can do all the Finite Element Analysis (FEA) tests you want (at Bodyforce we have done plenty) but at the end of the day you need to test your product in a real world environment to see what it’s truly made of. This is where “the rubber meets the road” so to speak. In that vein please see our videos where we perform two barbell drop tests on our X9 Evolution Hybrid Gym.

    To perform these tests we loaded a standard Olympic barbell with as many plates as it could hold (16 x 45 LBS plates). This, plus the weight of the bar (45 LBS), totaled 765 LBS. We tried to create a “worst case scenario” by using the cheapest plate holder “spring clips” we could find. We postulated that the heavy load combined with extreme angles (bent parabola shape) of the barbell when fully arrested at the bottom of its drop, would force the springs off causing an imbalance of plates on the bar. This is precisely what happened.

    In this first video the bar falls nearly 3 feet. We used this height to simulate an NBA basketball player who is approximately 6’10″ inches tall dropping the barbell directly from his shoulders at the top of a squat simulating a worst case scenario. For this test we also used an X9 frame that had only been “tack welded” giving it a fraction of its normal full welded strength, again a worst case scenario. As you can see the X9 still handled the drop without breaking a sweat. The barbell was not so lucky. It was bent beyond repair.

    A couple quick take aways from this first video:

    Cheap spring clips do a poor job of keeping weight plates secured on the barbell and are not recommended.

    Even with heavy duty safety spotters, if the collars come off you are quickly in an asymmetry situation where the bar wants to fall off to one side.

    The initial impact was easily and effectively absorbed by the X9.
     
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    Now lets take a look at the second drop test using our patent pending Bodyforce spotting system which combines the X9′s heavy duty safety spotters with our TuffStich 10,000 LB looped spotter straps. Watching this video you will again see the weight plate “collar springs” quickly ejected from the barbell and yet the system contains the barbell safely and completely. Even if more weight plates came off one side and you were laying unconscious on the floor you would be fully protected. This is due to the strap systems ability to “cradle” the barbell giving it not only vertical control, but horizontal control in all directions as well. To learn more about our robust spotting system please check out the X9 product page. Our safety strap system is not only good at containment but very functional with “on the fly” height adjustments as well.



    Take aways from the second video:

    The safety spotting system completely contained the barbell left/right, front/back and vertically.

    With the weight more evenly distributed, less total stress is put on any one part. Side load on safety spotters is almost fully eliminated.

    Something else worth considering; If you drop a barbell more than about one foot onto a safety spotter that utilizes plastic covering on top, there’s a good chance that surface will become damaged. If you typically lift to failure, dropping your weights onto safety spotters, it won’t take long to chew the plastic covers up. These covers are there to protect your barbell knurling from damage not the other way around. With the Bodyforce spotting system you have the best of both worlds; protect the bar and plastic with the best spotting system on the market. If you want to double your peace of mind you can use a set of spotters with the Bodyforce safety strap system above while locking in a secondary set of spotters down low. Either way you will be 100% protected.
     
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    We are also performing some testing on the H3 Catalyst Bench. Here is a picture with 900 pounds of weight loaded on top.
     

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    A short clip of Olympian Dallas Irvin demonstrating our patent pending Monolift system. Much more detail to come.

     
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    Hello All! We're putting together more pictures we hope to post soon. Videos to follow that. Here's a picture of the fully painted X9 to kick things off.
     

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    Your killing me... been years still no info no product and a dead site?
     
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    WHEN? When will we have pricing? When will we see this thing in full form? When will the temporary maintenance of the site be gone? When?
     
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    Deemonseed,

    Additional pictures will be posted in the next few days. Our current testing facility is not ideal for lighting or camera work. It is taking some time to get images put together as we gear up for videos next.

    As a side note, the primary phase of testing is complete. I am pleased to report, we have accomplished every major goal we set out to achieve and added additional features over the course of development. This really is a remarkable machine.

    Pictures likely won't tell much of that story other than how well the machine presents itself (it's even better in person). Videos however will showcase how much thought has gone into little details found throughout the X9.
     
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    Hey
    Can you please answer my questions? When will we see this stuff? When will it be for sale!
     
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    A basic free weight system starts at $3450. I believe you owned a Titan? For those who have submitted their contact information via this site, we will be offering a package comparable, but far superior to the features found on your Titan. The price for this package will come in a few hundred dollars above what the US distributor is selling the Titan T1-x for.

    Upcoming videos will show the machine in full form. There is so much to talk about. Video is the best medium to showcase those details. I'll update as soon as I can on video production.

    The site will be back up in the next 30 days or so. We spent several years developing the product. There is a lot of information to present and that is what we are working on now.

    We will start taking orders by the end of the year for an early 2015 delivery date. Sorry it could not be sooner. It is what it is. Our mission for this product has been: 1. Quality 2. Function 3. Price -in that order. It would have been nice to bring the X9 to market sooner but it has taken a ton of time to get it right.

    I for one am glad we didn't sacrifice anything to start churning product as some companies do. Premature sales lead to trouble swapping frame parts, etc when product development is not mature. A lot of headaches associated with that type of rollout. Not to mention customers sometimes being left with a model that won't accept new options as I believe happened with the Titan. We've done a much better job of mapping the X9 with current and future options.
     
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    In regards to your price points... the titan is all solid steel made in poland.. this is said to be steel but made in China? It looks to be made of the hallow steel you see in most north american units?
     
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    Thank You for your questions. Can you clarify what you mean by "all solid steel"? A quick glance at the Titan marketing info shows 11 gauge steel. That's roughly 3mm wall thickness. If I'm not mistaken the Titan tubing size is 2 x 2 inch. The X9 has massively larger and thicker steel. The frame is roughly 3.5 x 5 inch with 4mm wall thickness (close to 8 gauge). There are few products on the market with this robust of a frame. Usually power racks purchased by college and NFL athletic programs. Our special "D tubing" is custom made. This is not the top priority but our design/tubing is in my opinion much more attractive than the standard square/rectangle tubing used on 99% of all other products on the market. That's a personal preference though to be sure. https://www.google.com/search?q=power+rack&es_sm=122&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ei=36zyU_XIKcn3igK_nIGgBQ&ved=0CAkQ_AUoAg&biw=1745&bih=986

    We are creating a detailed matrix comparing the X9 to thirty five of the top racks on the market. I believe those details will speak for themself. Did you watch the video above where we dropped 765 pounds from a height of roughly two feet? That was on a test frame that had only been "tack welded". Any concerns you have about the strength or longevity of the X9 should be quickly put to rest as more information is released.

    By the way, a good design is about more than heavy steel. If everything is a pain to set up and take down then all that heavy steel actually gets in the way of moving your workout along. A good design for an all in one gym should allow you to transition between exercises quickly and allow efficient super and compound sets. This is another area the X9 will excel over the Titan. I am speaking to the Titan here because I believe that is what you currently own. That is just one machine. Our focus during development was geared toward besting the 35 top machines/racks on the market anywhere in the world, which you will see in our comparison matrix.
     
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    X9 Hybrid Gym
     

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    X9 "Evolution" Hybrid Gym
     

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    Pullup. The camera is angled not the machine.
     

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