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This is why Subway is bad for you...stop eating it!!

Discussion in 'Fat Loss/Cutting' started by TotalTan, Feb 3, 2005.

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  1. TotalTan

    TotalTan Well-Known Member

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    I see a lot of people on here talk about Subway like it's a 'good' alternative to fast food. Well, in some respects yes, but it's really not a 'clean' meal. Yes it's low in fat, and saturated fat and cholestorel(sp), but it's garbage food. First, most men I know eat a footlong, and even if it's just a 6 inch, that's TONS of refined carbs. Think how big those buns are. Next, it's PACKED with processed meats, high fat cheeses, and high fat dressings, unless you opt for the lite mayo like I used to do before cutting started. Still, your left with processed meats and a ton of unwanted, refined carbohydrates.


    Just thought I woud share since a lot of you eat it.....add on with thoughts/comments if you would like..
     
  2. Klownpoet

    Klownpoet Well-Known Member

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    Well I think if you are looking to a cheat meal that isn't high in sugar and what not, a turkey sub on wheat or something would be a good choice. Jared did lose alot of weight, but he doesn't exactly look like a knockout and I dont think he has spent 2 min in the gym lifting weights. (anyone ever notice how Jared always has flannel shirts on at the beach?)

    I do enjoy subway though and still eat it from time to time, but I don't think any fitness expert in their right mind would recommend eating a sandwhich from them everyday...
     
  3. SwoleCat

    SwoleCat Well-Known Member

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    I hate that garbage.

    ~SC~
     
  4. williamso

    williamso Well-Known Member

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    I'm not sure who has been advocating Subway for people who are serious about losing weight. I see the commercials and I think -- this is for people who want to dabble in weight loss.

    Subway is better than McDonald's for sure. They push the nutrition thing, that's good. For some people, it's probably a good step toward healthy living. But it is a step, not a destination.
     
  5. TotalTan

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    Lol.................


    I agree it's a healthy alternative for non fat people who want a healthy lifestyle, but for people seriously trying to lose weight, not good.
     
  6. minilifter

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    A 6" subway turkey sandwhich with double meat, no cheese, no dressing, all the veggies with salt, pepper, oragano and vinegar has 330 Kcals, 27 grams of protein, 6 grams of fat a 45 grams of "refined carbs" (better known as bread.) It is very filling, very familiar, and is not that bad for you. A fastfood meal with this much protein and a decent amount of vegetables is OK (not everyone is scared to death of 45 grams of white bread every now and then.)
     
  7. nimloth

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    No mayo, no cheese, some sweet onion sauce

    so for me the only really bad part is the bread.

    But I usually get a 6" wheat, so how bad can those carbs be?
    It's not like I'm on a low-carb diet.

    It's like saying "Food is bad for you! It has carbs and fat!!".
    You know that you can opt out of cheese/dressings, right?
     
  8. SwoleCat

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    What they fail to mention about poster boy "Jared" is that he had his stomach stapled.

    To me, that's a bigger reason for "weight loss" (note I said weight, not FAT as he is just a skinny-fat person now, who wants that??) not the stupid sandwiches he endorses.

    ~SC~
     
  9. Klownpoet

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    Did anyone ever see the South Park episode with Jared? Quite Funny.
    I am not ripping on Jared, it is better that he is not as obese as he once was, but the fact that he is seen as a model of fitness to some people is somewhat scary. I never knew he had his stomach stapled either. I guess now if he has an extra meatball on one of his delicious subs he runs the risk of puking it up... ughhh

    I think subway should have jared post a pic of himself with his shirt off in order to be a bit more truthful to customers about their advertising campaign.
     
  10. minilifter

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    What made me even more disheartened is watching "Supersize Me" where Jared comes to the school to lecture the kids on weightloss or whatever, and the little fat girl is heart-broken because she wants to lose weight but Jared told her the only way to do it was eating 2 subs a day and she can't afford that (whether or not he really said that I don't know, but that is the message she walked away with)
     
  11. LeftNut

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    //begin Subway rant

    Yeah, that stuff is crap. Order the "roasted chicken breast" sandwich and you'll see what I mean. Nothing but a supersized McNugget sans the deep fry. And it tastes like doodie. The rest of their meats are even worse.

    As for the bread....any bread that you can scrunch up into a ball the size of a walnut (and it stays that way!) is bad news for sure....

    No comment about that Jared dude.

    //end rant

    If there is ever any of that grocery store soft pansy-bread in my house....I take it to the park, scrunch it up into little balls, and toss it in the middle of a big crowd of ducks. Then I watch them play hockey as they fight over it. :spaz:
     
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  12. Bluestreak

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    *raises hand*

    I've cut while eating a sub or two a week. There's nothing wrong with *ANY* food, so long as you eat it in moderation and do your exercise. It's not the best alternative, but it's not the devil incarnate for people trying to cut fat.

    This is the mentality I believe that makes weight loss seem impossibly daunting for people who want to lose weight, but feel hopelessly lost in an overweight body. I used to feel that way. I thought, like almost every other American who's gotten heavy post-college, that it was simply a fact of life. You get older, you get fatter. When you're in that mindset, you believe that you have to give everything up to lose weight.

    Stop me if I'm wrong here. Really.

    Don't perpetuate the nonsense that people should stop eating Subway. Or anything for that matter. All things in moderation, damnit. I guarantee I can walk into any grocery store and pick apart half the foods that sit on the shelf that many people do consider healthy.

    Really, it's panicked notions like this that ingrain the idea that weight loss requires some extraordinary sacrifice. Maybe up front it does. That's quite simply the adjustment period you go through in changing a lifestyle drastically.

    Lemme tell you, over the last five months, despite not being able to lift a single weight, I survived Thanksgiving, Xmas, and New Years, as well as the past month eating pretty much anything I wanted come the weekends, and I'm 1-lb. heavier than I was five months ago. Let's say that again. As of this morning, I am ONE POUND heavier. So long as I get my carcass on a treadmill three times a week and watch what goes down my gullet from Monday through Friday, it's all good.

    The moral of the rant? Eat anything you want - in moderation. That's not a license to go out and eat fettucine alfredo every weekend. But do go have a nice meal. Treat yourself for hard work (Subway is hardly a treat). Exercise. Pay attention to your diet. Pay attention to your body. But don't deprive yourself - especially of something that's not all that bad for you. To villify Subway is just silly.

    This says nothing of those seeking to look like SC. That's a whole other ballgame. I'm aiming this at the average Joe/Jane that exercises to stay healthy and look good sans textiles. I aim this rant at those coming here who're just starting out. I bet that's the lion's share of the people who cross this site daily.

    -R
     
  13. TotalTan

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    Bluestreak I agree with you. I am just starting out, and my trainer while cutting says that food is horrible for me. Im about 20% body fat and I think when I lose some more weight he will be a little more liberal with my eating habits. He wont allow me any cheat meals, and it sucks. His rationale on why Subway was bad for ME made sense and I just wanted to share it.
     
  14. Human Clay

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    I agree that Subway can be a sort of "gateway" to healthy eating for people who originally eat things that are much, much crappier, and in that sense it's a good... but it's true that it isn't a destination.

    When I have to find food on the go or before I can go grocery shopping for my staples, or desperate for something more satisfying, Subway is still an option. I'll pickup a 6" oven-roasted chicken breast on whole wheat (I know, their whole wheat bread isn't much better than white, but it's something), and I get lettuce, tomatoes, pickles, cucumber and green peppers. Nothing else. I then bring it home, melt a slice of fat free "cheese" on the chicken and put a tablespoon of fat free miracle whip in there for flavour and moisture. Eat it, and then I'm off running again.

    Not perfect, but it's better to eat something than go starving until you can get ahold of one of your other staples. I don't have it very often, maybe once a month.
     
  15. Bluestreak

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    My friend, we just went through this with a similar post last week.

    Here's my take on trainers.

    If you go in and meet with a trainer and tell this person that you're raring to go, ready to lose a million pounds, they'll put you on a very aggressive program. That means no cheating.

    Alternatively, if you go into changing your body with the mindset that "I didn't get heavy overnight, so I'm not going to get thin overnight either", I believe you'll benefit so much more. Why? You'll feel less deprived. You'll likely stick to your plans more efficiently. In time, as I did, completely on your own, you'll become more aggressive with your weight loss plans as you see gains and start to visualize changes.

    I simply am not the type of personality who believes in the "all or nothing" drastic lifestyle changes that many who transform themselves embrace.

    That's all I'm saying. We can villify any fast food establishment. Hell, we can probably villify any food for some good reason if we try hard enough. Just keep in mind that transformation requires personal thought and evaluation; not blind faith in a trainer. Think for yourself and evaluate. I can't stress that enough. Why? Because we're not all independently wealthy. What will happen down the road when you no longer have that trainer lording over you, pushing you in the necessary direction? You will have lost weight, yes. But will you have the tools to continue to improve, hell, will you have the wherewithall to maintain?

    Trainers are a great tool up front, but please... learn from them, don't just follow them as so many do. Question them. Learn how they manipulate your diet so you can do the same for yourself. It's not hard. I watched my wife go through this; from the most incredible fitness transformation to gaining back what she lost. Why? Blind faith in a trainer, rather than learning why she did what she did.

    Again, this is all to say... all things in moderation, and use your brain, not just your body. :tu:

    -R
     
  16. GKHammond

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    I feel that it's much better than most other alternatives out there. Most of us are seeking a lifestyle change to lose weight. Unfortunately part of that lifestyle change does not coincide with the realities of daily life, so compromises must be made. If I were able to plan, prepare, pack and carry my own food every day, I would have a much cleaner diet and would be at a more appropriate BF% than I am now. However, my lifestyle does not permit this luxury and I am forced to make daily choices about where and what to eat. Until someone opens a grilled chicken and cottage cheese stand with a drivethrough or a Whey Bar with 100's of whey proteins on tap, I will choose Subway as a better (not best, we're talking compromise here) choice than I could make. Mustard only, no cheese, lots of veggies (including spinach, which you can't get on a sandwich most places) and 6"whole wheat bread makes a filling meal with few calories and very little fat.

    BTW, I hope Jared's not a member of JSF forums or some of the preceding posts could be considered flaming which I understand is forbidden here.

    Also Snopes talks about the rumors about Jared including the supposed gastric bypass here Jared Rumors
     
  17. Speed Trials

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    Wow, this post is like an island of sanity on these forums. Great post, Bluestreak.

    I really don't get it, it's like someone works a granola bar into their diet and suddenly they're an outcast.
     
  18. SwoleCat

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    :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

    ~SC~
     
  19. vatechguy

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    Two points:

    1. Jared didn't get any stapling done. Dude - he lost like 250 pounds - give the kid a break. Is the "subway diet" overhyped? Sure - but for someone in the 400s - its a start.

    2. Everyone always overlooks the Subway Salads - they also offer Spinach now, get your self some double meat roasted chicken - some veggies and walk away satisfied. :tu:
     
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    its ironic that this thread poped up. today i had subway for the first time in ages! 6in chicken terriaki, no cheeze.

    its just sooooo much bread - but good thing i had done my lifting 1 hr beforehand.
     
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