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Benching 350 lbs...

Discussion in 'Weight Training/Bulking' started by Azure, Dec 7, 2007.

  1. Azure

    Azure Active Member

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    Actually, that was exactly what I was looking for.

    I'll certainly give it a try.

    THANKS!
     
  2. Merk

    Merk Satan is my spirit animal

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    I agree, incline chest work does alot for ramping up the overall flat bench work. Shoulder work as well, though I wouldn't advise behind the neck anything, Its a great strain on the shoulders. I tend to get pain from doing anything behind the neck. Its an unnatural movement for the body(so I have read and been told) and it can do serious damage to the shoulders. So I avoid it at all costs. Any overhead movement I do I keep infront of me, saves my shoulders.

    Ronn
     
  3. Nowhereman

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    Same here. I thought Zen was being sarcastic.

    :tu:
     
  4. zenpharaohs

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    Honestly I just got the feeling that he didn't know about bench shirts.

    Now a 500# raw bench is a massive lift. That's going to take a while. 400# raw is really strong but not totally crazy - many of the trainers in my gym have that, (and the one strong guy that doesn't is like 385# and he only weighs 180#).

    I should talk though. I just got to 275# a few weeks ago.
     
  5. zenpharaohs

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    That's easy. He would skip this bench press stuff and deadlift. :nod:
     
  6. Azure

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    I do the deadlift too.

    But when you talk to people about your 'statistics' and you mention deadlift, they ask 'what the hell is that?'

    Sad, but true.
     
  7. zenpharaohs

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    Well then you give them the number and let it sink in.

    And I'm not knocking the bench press so much as just reacting to the "what would mastover do?" sig.
     
  8. Azure

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    Mastover has a great point.

    I don't know if my recent gains are strictly because of doing a more serious deadlift, but I have noticed improvement in all areas of my fitness.

    Off-topic.....I notice that you keep track of your V02max. How?

    Nevermind, I read your journal.

    Cooper Test? I'll have to check that out.
     
  9. anfeyd

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    There are many ways to estimate your VO2max. You can chose any field test but once you do stick with that test. With that being said, I like the Cooper 12 minute run.
     
  10. zenpharaohs

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    I like to use more than one test to make sure they agree with each other.
     
  11. Azure

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    My treadmill just went kaput, and I don't have a track to run on.

    I am looking at a different treadmill though, and as far as I know it does measure distance in meters.
     
  12. zenpharaohs

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    I know it doesn't have the greatest rep, but I have checked the "Queens College Step Test" and it actually came out quite close to the truth for me.

    By far the most convenient test is the Polar Ownindex, if you have one of their monitors that does that.
     
  13. anfeyd

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    Well, as for comparing tests thats fine. However, for tracking VO2 I would use numbers taken from the same test. Doing more than one test is good though to make sure your result is similar.
     
  14. Azure

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    I'll check out the step test.

    I am currently looking at buying a Polar moniter. The F11, I believe, is around 130 bucks on Ebay.
     
  15. zenpharaohs

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    There is also a more subtle reason to use more than one test. VO2max is activity specific - it means that although different tests will give similar results, they do not give the same result. I know my rowing tests are low compared to my running, stepping, or Polar tests. That's partly because I have really short strong heavy legs. Now once you get to a relatively hard to improve VO2max, then these different sorts of tests tell you stuff about your training. This is actually a reflection of the principal of specific adaptation - if you train in a very specific way, then your response will be to that training.

    Now if you are a competitive athlete in a specific event; you want the VO2max to be highest in that event. But if you are interested in more general fitness, then getting one test much higher than the others tells you it's time to sort out some things that are lagging.
     
  16. Azure

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    Quick question...

    as kids me and my friends often compared arms too see who had the bigger muscles, and I always noticed that most of them had lots of veins sticking out all over.

    I never did, and always figured it was some sort of genetic thing.

    Now, fast forward 10 years later, 19 years old, I find out that vein standing out on your arms are most likely a BF issue.

    So if I'm starting to see them coming out on the back of my arms...down from the elbow, but only during and after a workout as they disappear afterwards, can I assume with checking my BF%...that it is going down?
     
  17. JoeSchmo

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    Its both -- genetics and bf% affect vascularity.
     
  18. Azure

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    Thats the word!

    Now I can use google and read all about it.
     

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