Cardio and Lifting: How close together at max?

FatBill2 · Fri, July 18th, 2008, 02:14 AM

Like most I dont have time for 2 sessions but want to do both. Im not sure why im not supposed to do both together but know there is a reason and it doesnt feel as good either.

Whats the shortest amount of time one should wait before the 2nd of the 2 activities????

J_W · Fri, July 18th, 2008, 03:41 AM

Personally I have never separated cardio and weights, but I do weights before I do cardio and I keep my cardio relatively short, just because I can't be bothered to spend 2 hours in the gym.

So I might to something like 45 mins of weights followed by 20-30 mins of LISS or MISS cardio.

SOULFLY · Fri, July 18th, 2008, 05:30 AM

I go twice a day cardio am then weights pm, alot easier for me bing self employed.
i have heard 6-8 i always allow 8 hours but

kevin_in_ga · Fri, July 18th, 2008, 08:11 AM

I do 30 min of cardio IMMEDIATELY after lifting - my heart rate is up and I don't want to waste time in the gym. I keep it to about 75 minutes total workout time.

Guillerr · Fri, July 18th, 2008, 08:17 AM

A big problem for me too... I think from now on I'm gonna be performing 20 min HIIT prior to lifting.

Total 65-75 minutes.

Croz · Fri, July 18th, 2008, 08:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Guillerr

A big problem for me too... I think from now on I'm gonna be performing 20 min HIIT prior to lifting.

Total 65-75 minutes.

Let me know how that works. When I do 20 minutes of HIIT, I have trouble lifting my legs right after, let alone lifting any weight.

paulo_drummer · Fri, July 18th, 2008, 11:50 AM

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Originally Posted by kevin_in_ga

I do 30 min of cardio IMMEDIATELY after lifting - my heart rate is up and I don't want to waste time in the gym. I keep it to about 75 minutes total workout time.

I do the same, 45 min lifting and 30 min of cardio. It works fine for me.

nksmith · Fri, July 18th, 2008, 12:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Guillerr

A big problem for me too... I think from now on I'm gonna be performing 20 min HIIT prior to lifting.

Total 65-75 minutes.

If you can have a productive lifting session after doing 20 minutes of HIIT, then you're not going hard enough. Lots of people do cardio before lifting, but HIIT should be "high intensity" and as hard as you can physically push yourself.

jdb-44 · Fri, July 18th, 2008, 01:29 PM

It seems that every time I have a question, I just go to the appropriate forum, and the topic I'm interested in is the most current thread!

The three-day split (MWF) that I'm doing doesn't really leave time for cardio, so I only have part of Monday, plus Tuesday and Thursday for cardio (20 min/60 min/60 min). I found a workout split that has higher intensity but fewer exercises (here, for anyone interested: http://www.muscleandstrength.com/wor...y-workout.html), which should allow me to do around 30 minutes of cardio on MTTF, plus whatever I want on Wednesday.

It's good to hear that others are taking a similar approach...

Guillerr · Fri, July 18th, 2008, 02:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Croz

Let me know how that works. When I do 20 minutes of HIIT, I have trouble lifting my legs right after, let alone lifting any weight.

I don't encourage doing *any* sort of cardio on leg day...
I don't think it's gonna give me trouble for the upper body. We'll see!

Mantis · Fri, July 18th, 2008, 05:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Guillerr

I don't encourage doing *any* sort of cardio on leg day...

I guess it would depend on the type of cardio you do. I do fasted LISS in the mornings as soon as i awaken, and I have no problem on leg days. I also work construction and occasionally im forced to go up and down flights of stairs all day, including leg days. Allow your body time to recover from any taxing you put on that part, eat your good eats like you should, drink your water, and you should be fine.

Candyce · Sat, July 19th, 2008, 01:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Guillerr

I don't encourage doing *any* sort of cardio on leg day...
I don't think it's gonna give me trouble for the upper body. We'll see!

Honestly, Ill be shocked if youll be able to do any weights after HIIT.

RTE · Sat, July 19th, 2008, 04:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Candyce

Honestly, Ill be shocked if youll be able to do any weights after HIIT.

Always best to do Weights and then cardio, if you need it. Of course if you do your weights as you should, you shouldn't have anything left for cardio.

FatBill2 · Sat, July 19th, 2008, 11:33 PM

ok, so let's assume we you aren't supposed to do them together and we are all doing it wrong

...how long do you wait in between to get the levels optimal again?

Aerobic and anabolic....thats what someone wrote on here and it prohibits full benefits of the weights when done together? Someting like that?

FiDdyNiCk · Wed, July 23rd, 2008, 02:03 AM

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Originally Posted by jdb-44

It seems that every time I have a question, I just go to the appropriate forum, and the topic I'm interested in is the most current thread!
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same here wanted to ask this question tonight!

my concern is this.

i do mark ripptoe workout and squat three days a week.

can i run for say 20 mins after each workout??

cause i am still try to rid the tummy while on the workout...

thanks in advance, and sorry if i'm thread jacking.

stefanjagger · Wed, July 23rd, 2008, 07:20 AM

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Originally Posted by rtestes

Always best to do Weights and then cardio, if you need it. Of course if you do your weights as you should, you shouldn't have anything left for cardio.

So does this mean I should stick to a "lift to failure" weights approach then do Cardio on off days, or not at all even?

I'm currently doing 30-40mins weights, 10mins LISS. Mon/Wed/Fri with HIIT running on Tue/Thur/Sat...

kiwidave · Wed, July 23rd, 2008, 11:11 AM

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Originally Posted by FiDdyNiCk

same here wanted to ask this question tonight!

my concern is this.

i do mark ripptoe workout and squat three days a week.

can i run for say 20 mins after each workout??

cause i am still try to rid the tummy while on the workout...

thanks in advance, and sorry if i'm thread jacking.

I'm doing the Stronglifts 5x5 which is also squats 3x per week. I'm finding the best option is 20-30 mins low intensity jogging/cycling immediately after finishing weights. This leaves a full 48hours leg recovery before the next squat session which seems to work better for me than jogging/cycling on "rest" days. If I'm feeling energetic I'll swim on the days I'm not doing weights.

zenpharaohs · Wed, July 23rd, 2008, 02:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Fat Bill

Like most I dont have time for 2 sessions but want to do both. Im not sure why im not supposed to do both together

I don't see any important reason to separate them.

mastover · Wed, July 23rd, 2008, 04:10 PM

After a weight training session insulin should not be present, so doing cardio immediately afterwards would probably be beneficial for fat loss purposes.

Skoorb · Fri, July 25th, 2008, 12:19 PM

Stop worrying! Do them when you can. Sometimes I do weights and then cardio (like swim after). Othertimes cardio before weights (always my legs are after cardio if I do cardio in the same workout). Other times I'll do weights at lunch, cardio later, or maybe it was morning, the timing really doesn't matter as much as many would have you believe.

I generally don't like cardio before most weights (legs being the main exception because I cannot do meaningful running/cycling after doing legs) because I hate sweating like a pig doing weights and lifting weights after a hard session is the last thing I want.