In reference to John's Timed mile

[rage60]

My best time for a mile was 4.28 at the state meet. Good enough for third place. I haven't run one in quite awhile, but I am intrested in getting back out there and seeing what I can do as well. Too bad we can't have a race. John Stone Fitness 5k and 1 mile. Anyway, for those of you that are intrested in running one, I'd like to hear what your times are. Competetion anyone? I plan on getting out there and running one tommorrow morning. I'll post my time then.

-- Cheers

[marcus]

Originally Posted by rage60

My best time for a mile was 4.28 at the state meet. Good enough for third place. I haven't run one in quite awhile, but I am intrested in getting back out there and seeing what I can do as well. Too bad we can't have a race. John Stone Fitness 5k and 1 mile. Anyway, for those of you that are intrested in running one, I'd like to hear what your times are. Competetion anyone? I plan on getting out there and running one tommorrow morning. I'll post my time then.

-- Cheers

4:28, That is damn fast I really want to see how fast I can run a mile in but I've just got to measure it out somewhere. My boss was the second person ever to get under 4 mins and it would be good to run it to appreciate how fast that really is. I'll try and run it in the next couple of days and tell you what I got, but it wont be anywhere near 4:28.

Marcus

[Haarball]

Hmm, I haven't ran this exact distance but my best running result was 3,2 km in about 11 minutes.

[Nico]

I'm waiting to see what people's times were. I have a goal of running a 5 minute mile by the end of the year-right now I can do a mile in about 6:15 on a very windy track(on the bay).

4:28 is incredibly fast-there's probably only a few thousand people in the world that can run a mile that fast. Like he said, he was top 3 in state.

[gymraub]

I've thought about recording my fastest mile time every 4 to 6 weeks just to track general fitness progress. I'm not a runner, but this seems like one of the standard tests of endurance. But what I really want to do is compare myself to a large statistical sample -- i.e., what's considered a "poor", "fair", "good," mile time for my age group. And from surfing the internet, it seems like those statistics are only available for 1.5 mile times. Has anyone found a website with this kind of data for 1.0 mile times?

Also, how accurate would it be to get my fastest time on a treadmill and compare it to these statistics? Should I be using some degree of incline to make up for differences between the track and the treadmill?

Thanks for any responses.

[chicanerous]

Originally Posted by gymraub

Also, how accurate would it be to get my fastest time on a treadmill and compare it to these statistics? Should I be using some degree of incline to make up for differences between the track and the treadmill?

Thanks for any responses.

Go up to a local highschool track.

You can push yourself harder on a track because you can see how much distance is left without thinking. As your running, you'll probably want to forget about everything else and focus solely on getting as much power and forward distance possible, you don't have to think to run around a track. With a treadmill the urge will be extremely difficult to overcome, as the running becomes unbearable, to not look and take the 2 seconds to look or calculate how much time you have left, you'll naturally lapse in your effort.

When you see the end of the track, you can judge when to throw in the last bits of whatever you got left and then a bit more. On a treadmill, you are restricted in the space around you that you can run in.

If you are going real fast you'll need more space as you stride widens and your arms pump.

Also don't you have to set a speed for treadmills? You should be dictating your speed, not the machine.

[LaTouche]

I never ran track in High School or College, but i played tennis in College, and we always ran the mile twice a year to see in what kinda shape we were in. I ran it under 5min10s most of my 4 yrs. I`d like to see how fast i can run it now. My conditioning is a whole lot better and i weigh about 10lbs less now. Even though I don't play tennis anymore and don't have any practice for about 20 hrs a week, my shape is so much better now. Amazing what knowledge and proper nutrition can do to someone.

[gymraub]

Originally Posted by chicanerous

Go up to a local highschool track.

You can push yourself harder on a track because you can see how much distance is left without thinking. As your running, you'll probably want to forget about everything else and focus solely on getting as much power and forward distance possible, you don't have to think to run around a track. With a treadmill the urge will be extremely difficult to overcome, as the running becomes unbearable, to not look and take the 2 seconds to look or calculate how much time you have left, you'll naturally lapse in your effort.

When you see the end of the track, you can judge when to throw in the last bits of whatever you got left and then a bit more. On a treadmill, you are restricted in the space around you that you can run in.

If you are going real fast you'll need more space as you stride widens and your arms pump.

Also don't you have to set a speed for treadmills? You should be dictating your speed, not the machine.

I agree that the track is the way to go. On the treadmill, you have to change the speed based on how exhausted you are and how long you think you can hold out -- like you said, you get distracted by these calculations when you should just be thinking about running fast. My problem is access -- I live in NYC, and don't know of any tracks that have public access. But I'll look into it.

Thanks for the response.

[Nico]

Originally Posted by gymraub

I've thought about recording my fastest mile time every 4 to 6 weeks just to track general fitness progress. I'm not a runner, but this seems like one of the standard tests of endurance. But what I really want to do is compare myself to a large statistical sample -- i.e., what's considered a "poor", "fair", "good," mile time for my age group. And from surfing the internet, it seems like those statistics are only available for 1.5 mile times. Has anyone found a website with this kind of data for 1.0 mile times?

Also, how accurate would it be to get my fastest time on a treadmill and compare it to these statistics? Should I be using some degree of incline to make up for differences between the track and the treadmill?

Thanks for any responses.

I don't know that there's a real standard, but here's my opinion-this applies to men between 12 and 40. Modify as needed for any age differences. These percentiles are based entirely on me making them up-the population would consist of people who actually work out on at least a semi-regular basis. Obese people don't count because they wouldn't even finish

Over 10:00 minutes: 10th percentile
9:01-10:00 minutes: 20th percentile
8:15-9:00 minutes: 30th percentile
7:31-8:15 minutes: 40th percentile
6:46-7:30 minutes: 50th percentile
6:16-6:45 minutes: 60th percentile
5:46-6:15 minutes: 70th percentile
5:21-5:45 minutes: 80th percentile
5:01-5:20 minutes: 90th percentile
4:51-5:00 minutes: 95th percentile
4:41-4:50 minutes: 98th percentile
4:31-4:40 minutes: 99th percentile
4:21-4:30 minutes: About 2,000 people in the world
4:00-4:20 minutes: About 600 people in the world
Under 4 minutes: About 50-100 people in the world
Under 3:50: Count them on one hand

I would expect the 'average' youngish male who workouts at least a little to run a mile in about 7:10, but this is completely based on past experiences and not actual data.

[GiantJay]

I ran track and cross country in High school. For Some reason My area had some ridiculous runnners. My Fastest Mile was 4:50ish. 3 miles was low 17 min range.

We had two brothers on our team that were unbelieveable. I witnessed Brian run a Mile in 3:50 his brother Ethan was usually about 15-20 seconds behind. In 3 miles they were always in the mid 13 minute Range.

We also had another guy who came in as a Freshman when Brian was a senior and beat him quite often. Not sure if they ever went pro but they should have. Needless to say the 3 years I competed we held the division title each year.

I think there are quite a few people that can run the 3:50 - 4:00 range. You get under 3:50 and thats world class stuff.

[Nico]

Originally Posted by GiantJay

I ran track and cross country in High school. For Some reason My area had some ridiculous runnners. My Fastest Mile was 4:50ish. 3 miles was low 17 min range.

We had two brothers on our team that were unbelieveable. I witnessed Brian run a Mile in 3:50 his brother Ethan was usually about 15-20 seconds behind. In 3 miles they were always in the mid 13 minute Range.

We also had another guy who came in as a Freshman when Brian was a senior and beat him quite often. Not sure if they ever went pro but they should have. Needless to say the 3 years I competed we held the division title each year.

I think there are quite a few people that can run the 3:50 - 4:00 range. You get under 3:50 and thats world class stuff.

4:50 is a great time for the mile. What could you do for an 800 and a 400?

It may be that nowadays there are more people breaking the 4 minute barrier, but from my experience there have been very few high school runners to ever do it in a meet. When I ran cross country the top guy in the state would run the 3-mile in about 14:30 and maybe one other guy could break 15 minutes.

[GiantJay]

I never really competed in the 400. The 800 If I remember right it was low 2min maybe 2:15 2:20. I have short legs so I am not a great sprinter.

Brian would destroy people in Cross Country, I think his best was 13:40 or somewhere around there. Like I said, We won every meet and tourney we went to. As you know one fast runner does not win a tourney, we had lots of fast guys. You couldn't make varsity unless you were sub 17minutes in cross country. When That Freshman came in they really pushed each other it was insane to see the freshman runnig so well, his dad was a marathon runner.

The only person I ever saw under 4min in the mile was brian. He was usually 4:01, ,4:05.

[efk]

Wow, fast, good runners here.
Even when I was at the peak of my fitness (taekwondo 5 days aweek, teaching and taking) and skating for a few hours every night, my best time was 12mins I think. I am not able to run well. I think my form is all wacked.
I could skate for 12 miles just fine, but running, I get winded in the first 1/8th of a mile and its all "downhill" from there, HATED running in high school.

[Nico]

Originally Posted by GiantJay

I never really competed in the 400. The 800 If I remember right it was low 2min maybe 2:15 2:20. I have short legs so I am not a great sprinter.

Brian would destroy people in Cross Country, I think his best was 13:40 or somewhere around there. Like I said, We won every meet and tourney we went to. As you know one fast runner does not win a tourney, we had lots of fast guys. You couldn't make varsity unless you were sub 17minutes in cross country. When That Freshman came in they really pushed each other it was insane to see the freshman runnig so well, his dad was a marathon runner.

The only person I ever saw under 4min in the mile was brian. He was usually 4:01, ,4:05.

What school was that? I'd like to know who this high school kid is who could run that fast.

[GiantJay]

Originally Posted by Nico

What school was that? I'd like to know who this high school kid is who could run that fast.

Yucaipa High School In Souther California. We were int teh CIF. Dmn, I can't remember our division!! I think it was division 3 0r 2. The runners were Brian and Ethan Owmby The youngr kid was Jason Carney. I will try to find some links but this was 15 years ago so they may be scarce.

Since I left the boys have done pretty well but the Girls team has been dominating everyone year in and year out. Unfortuanately, the coach(who coached me) is resigning this year in protest to the budget cuts that are decimating high school sports programs across the state.

[guava]

Originally Posted by efk

Wow, fast, good runners here.
Even when I was at the peak of my fitness (taekwondo 5 days aweek, teaching and taking) and skating for a few hours every night, my best time was 12mins I think. I am not able to run well. I think my form is all wacked.
I could skate for 12 miles just fine, but running, I get winded in the first 1/8th of a mile and its all "downhill" from there, HATED running in high school.

I hate running too. I'd probably be around the 12 minute mark myself.

Let's see 4:28 per mile, means 268 minutes for each mile, or 13.43 miles/hour.

I just started out on the treadmill, and I alternate 6.5 km/h and 9.5 km/ for 30 minutes, so it's an average of about 5 miles per hour, which means I could do a mile in a fifth of an hour at that rate, or 15 minutes. Of course, that's not the fastest I can go, and I could do one mile faster than two miles. I'd really like to improve my endurance. I can't run 10 km/h for much more than 3 minutes, but I'm cranking up the treadmill a little more each time. I still couldn't imagine going 21.5 km/hour for four and a half minutes!

[efk]

one of my first attempts to get in shape I used a treadmill. I decided that 10mph must be great for getting in shape... after 20 seconds or so I was on the ground gasping for air for about 10 minutes!
remember, speed kills

[guava]

omg efk, I'm glad I'm not as gung-ho as you!

10 kilometers per hour is plenty for me.

[efk]

Haha, it was good (but painful) lesson to learn!
my friend who was there still makes fun of me for it, if we do cardio together he always asks me to go 10mph on the treadmill.