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Thu, December 23rd, 2004, 10:24 PM
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rtestes is offline
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High Intensity Training on the Net
I and others have mentioned High Intensity Training or HIT. Information about the subject can be founded at many locations on the Net. I am sure others can add to the list below:
Dr. Darden's HIT
Cyber Pump
Bodybuilding.com
Mike Mentzer
Master Trainer
HIT Newsletter
HIT study
HIT Q&A
Build Lean Muscle
Drew Baye's HIT
Up the Intensity
That is enough for now, if you don't know what HIT is, here is a chance to get an idea. Please feel free to add to list or relate your experiences with it.
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Do as many repetitions as possible ... in good form. Dr. Ellington Darden giving a definition of HIT
The only person whose behavior we can control is our own. All we can give another person is information. What happened in the past has everything to do with what we are today, but we can only satisfy our basic needs right now and plan to continue satisfying them in the future. Dr. William Glasser
Wisdom is the ability to put things in perspective. RTE
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Fri, December 24th, 2004, 12:58 AM
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This is my body. I can do whatever I want to do with it. I can push it, study it, tweak it, listen to it.
Everyone wants to know what I'm on. I'm on my bike busting my ass six hours a day. What are you on?"
-Lance Armstrong
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Fri, December 24th, 2004, 12:37 PM
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Do as many repetitions as possible ... in good form. Dr. Ellington Darden giving a definition of HIT
The only person whose behavior we can control is our own. All we can give another person is information. What happened in the past has everything to do with what we are today, but we can only satisfy our basic needs right now and plan to continue satisfying them in the future. Dr. William Glasser
Wisdom is the ability to put things in perspective. RTE
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Fri, December 24th, 2004, 08:32 PM
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Some very interesting articles there rtestes!
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Mon, January 10th, 2005, 09:52 PM
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Thanks for that interesting article that sums up all of the studies--my program may need an overhaul.
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Mon, January 10th, 2005, 10:35 PM
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some additions:
www.hardgainer.com - stuart mcrobert is definately a hitter
www.musclemayhem.com - dante's doggcrapp program can be put into this class as well
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Sun, January 16th, 2005, 02:22 PM
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Do as many repetitions as possible ... in good form. Dr. Ellington Darden giving a definition of HIT
The only person whose behavior we can control is our own. All we can give another person is information. What happened in the past has everything to do with what we are today, but we can only satisfy our basic needs right now and plan to continue satisfying them in the future. Dr. William Glasser
Wisdom is the ability to put things in perspective. RTE
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Sun, January 23rd, 2005, 06:09 PM
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Do as many repetitions as possible ... in good form. Dr. Ellington Darden giving a definition of HIT
The only person whose behavior we can control is our own. All we can give another person is information. What happened in the past has everything to do with what we are today, but we can only satisfy our basic needs right now and plan to continue satisfying them in the future. Dr. William Glasser
Wisdom is the ability to put things in perspective. RTE
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Mon, January 24th, 2005, 01:46 AM
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Do as many repetitions as possible ... in good form. Dr. Ellington Darden giving a definition of HIT
The only person whose behavior we can control is our own. All we can give another person is information. What happened in the past has everything to do with what we are today, but we can only satisfy our basic needs right now and plan to continue satisfying them in the future. Dr. William Glasser
Wisdom is the ability to put things in perspective. RTE
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Tue, January 25th, 2005, 12:49 AM
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Do as many repetitions as possible ... in good form. Dr. Ellington Darden giving a definition of HIT
The only person whose behavior we can control is our own. All we can give another person is information. What happened in the past has everything to do with what we are today, but we can only satisfy our basic needs right now and plan to continue satisfying them in the future. Dr. William Glasser
Wisdom is the ability to put things in perspective. RTE
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Tue, January 25th, 2005, 01:29 PM
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Do as many repetitions as possible ... in good form. Dr. Ellington Darden giving a definition of HIT
The only person whose behavior we can control is our own. All we can give another person is information. What happened in the past has everything to do with what we are today, but we can only satisfy our basic needs right now and plan to continue satisfying them in the future. Dr. William Glasser
Wisdom is the ability to put things in perspective. RTE
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Tue, January 25th, 2005, 02:08 PM
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negative training without a partner. some good ideas in there. thanks
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Thu, January 27th, 2005, 12:17 PM
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Do as many repetitions as possible ... in good form. Dr. Ellington Darden giving a definition of HIT
The only person whose behavior we can control is our own. All we can give another person is information. What happened in the past has everything to do with what we are today, but we can only satisfy our basic needs right now and plan to continue satisfying them in the future. Dr. William Glasser
Wisdom is the ability to put things in perspective. RTE
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Wed, February 2nd, 2005, 09:12 PM
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Do as many repetitions as possible ... in good form. Dr. Ellington Darden giving a definition of HIT
The only person whose behavior we can control is our own. All we can give another person is information. What happened in the past has everything to do with what we are today, but we can only satisfy our basic needs right now and plan to continue satisfying them in the future. Dr. William Glasser
Wisdom is the ability to put things in perspective. RTE
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Thu, February 10th, 2005, 05:38 PM
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Do as many repetitions as possible ... in good form. Dr. Ellington Darden giving a definition of HIT
The only person whose behavior we can control is our own. All we can give another person is information. What happened in the past has everything to do with what we are today, but we can only satisfy our basic needs right now and plan to continue satisfying them in the future. Dr. William Glasser
Wisdom is the ability to put things in perspective. RTE
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Fri, February 18th, 2005, 01:35 AM
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Do as many repetitions as possible ... in good form. Dr. Ellington Darden giving a definition of HIT
The only person whose behavior we can control is our own. All we can give another person is information. What happened in the past has everything to do with what we are today, but we can only satisfy our basic needs right now and plan to continue satisfying them in the future. Dr. William Glasser
Wisdom is the ability to put things in perspective. RTE
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Fri, February 18th, 2005, 12:58 PM
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Those are some damn good articles.  Maybe once you've got them all out here we could get them all onto one post, categorized.
There are a lot of controversial topics brought up in those articles which I know have been addressed before but I don't have the time to track down those posts. I want to know what you think:
1. Do you believe in one set to failure?
2. Do you believe in lifting superslow?
3. Do you believe in not doing explosive movements?
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Fri, February 18th, 2005, 02:10 PM
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1. Do you believe in one set to failure?
2. Do you believe in lifting superslow?
3. Do you believe in not doing explosive movements?
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1. Yes, I most certainly do.
2. Slow, but not super slow. 4/1/4 count
3. not unless I was in a contest trying for 1 rep max. I try to avoid injury.
I want something that works for 80% of the people, not the 10% on each end of the curve. I also want it effective and efficient, why spend many hours to get results that you can get in less than 2 hours a week?
I have a sixteen year old grandson, who started seriously first of year. In August 04 he was 115 lbs, we worked on and off, today he is 140 lbs with a goal of 165 lbs, I will show final results.
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Do as many repetitions as possible ... in good form. Dr. Ellington Darden giving a definition of HIT
The only person whose behavior we can control is our own. All we can give another person is information. What happened in the past has everything to do with what we are today, but we can only satisfy our basic needs right now and plan to continue satisfying them in the future. Dr. William Glasser
Wisdom is the ability to put things in perspective. RTE
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Fri, February 18th, 2005, 02:30 PM
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1. Yes, I most certainly do.
2. Slow, but not super slow. 4/1/4 count
3. not unless I was in a contest trying for 1 rep max. I try to avoid injury.
I want something that works for 80% of the people, not the 10% on each end of the curve. I also want it effective and efficient, why spend many hours to get results that you can get in less than 2 hours a week?
I have a sixteen year old grandson, who started seriously first of year. In August 04 he was 115 lbs, we worked on and off, today he is 140 lbs with a goal of 165 lbs, I will show final results.
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One of the first articles from your list was Dr. Squat's list of reasons why HIT doesn't work. What did you think about his article?
Personally I believe that the best number of intense sets per bodypart is somewhere between 1 and 8. If you can improve with one then by all means just do one. But I tried that method for about six months and just found myself getting weaker. But even my upper limit of 8 is less than most volume-training proponents recommend.
Typical bodybuilder routine for chest:
Bench Press: 3 * 8-10
Incline Dumbell Press: 3 * 8-10
Dumbell Flye: 3 * 8-10
Cable Flye: 3 * 10-12
That's 12 sets and probably close to forty minutes.
My routine is more like
Bench Press: 2 * 6 (Max weight possible with perfect form)
Incline Db press: 1 * 8
Db Flye: 1 * 10
That's 4 sets and about 20 minutes including warmups. If I just did one set I would simply not be stimulating the muscle fibers enough for me, so maybe this puts me outside the 80% you refer to. I know if it worked for me then I would do that because even though I like to workout I could use all that spare time.
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Fri, February 18th, 2005, 03:07 PM
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One of the first articles from your list was Dr. Squat's list of reasons why HIT doesn't work. What did you think about his article?
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Squat might only know squat. Hatfield has his own agenda with his connections with ISSA and his books. I included it for laugh value. He is often humorous in his old age.
Very few on these forums want to be a powerlfter or a bodybuilding contestant. the majority seek attractive muscles that has some function, most haven't worked out with weights before coming to these forums.
A well planned HIT program would have progressive overload build into its design for building of strength and size. I am glad to see you haven't gone overboard on volume in your workouts.
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Do as many repetitions as possible ... in good form. Dr. Ellington Darden giving a definition of HIT
The only person whose behavior we can control is our own. All we can give another person is information. What happened in the past has everything to do with what we are today, but we can only satisfy our basic needs right now and plan to continue satisfying them in the future. Dr. William Glasser
Wisdom is the ability to put things in perspective. RTE
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