Please Support Our Sponsors!
Mass Nutrition
AtLarge Nutrition
Personal Training with Aram Hamparian
JSF BodyShop™
AtLarge Nutrition
JSF Amazon Mall

  
Go Back   John Stone Fitness Forums > Main Fitness Forums > General Health & Fitness, Injuries and Sports

General Health & Fitness, Injuries and Sports Participatory sports, help with injuries and general health & fitness topics that don't fall under weight training, fat loss or nutrition.

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes

Question about Johns shoulder
Old Fri, February 13th, 2004, 01:29 PM   #1
netzig
Member
 
netzig's Avatar
 
netzig is offline
Join Date: Jan 23rd, 2004
Location: Utah
Age: 33
Posts: 38
Sex: Male
Stats: Ht: 6'2" Wt: 198 Lbs Got to get BF% down to 10!!!!
Default Question about Johns shoulder

John, I am just curious, you may have mentioned what happened to your shoulder but I didnt see it anywhere, but what did you do and how did it happen??

I am asking because last August I dislocated my shoulder (Bankart Lesion was the final diagnosis) doing dumbell military presses . It popped it right down to where my shoulder joint was sitting on my rib cage. Anyway, the Dr told me that you actually have better odds of it healing on its own the older that you get (I am 28). So I went to physical therapy and rehabed it exactly as I was told to do and I was lucky enough to escape surgery. I lost a TON of strength when it happened since my arm was in a sling strapped to my body and it took about 2.5-3 months until I felt comfortable enough to even start any kind of moderate shoulder workouts and chest (hanging weights above my head with a bad shoulder sounded kind of dangerous to me). It still makes me nervous sometimes when I start putting a lot of weight on but it actually is stronger than it was before, although I had only been lifting weights for 8 months before it happened. And I think that the nervousness is a mental thing.

Anyway, I was just curious what happened to you?
  Reply With Quote

Old Fri, February 13th, 2004, 02:00 PM   #2
Supervivet
Member
 
Supervivet is offline
Join Date: Jan 21st, 2004
Location: Uppsala, Sweden
Posts: 98
Sex: Male
Default

Yeah...I'd like to hear about it as well.
I must have missed that part somehow...
__________________
Started at 103.5 kilos on Jan 1 2004.

-----Currently at 85 kilos / 189 lbs ----
  Reply With Quote

Old Fri, February 13th, 2004, 02:38 PM   #3
marcus
Senior Member
 
marcus's Avatar
 
marcus is offline
Join Date: Jan 31st, 2004
Location: Melbourne, Australia
Posts: 1,414
Sex: Male
Default

Quote:
It popped it right down to where my shoulder joint was sitting on my rib cage.
Damn that must have been scary, the pain would have been one thing but the realisation of what happened would have made me freak.

I'm not saying you were a beginner or pushing too hard but its a good example of what can happen to a beginner trying to do MAX-OT. Its always best to be safe because one mistake could cost you years.

Marcus
__________________
Watch your thoughts; they become words.
Watch your words; they become actions.
Watch your actions; they become habits.
Watch your habits; they become character.
Watch your character; it becomes your destiny.
--Frank Outlaw
  Reply With Quote

Old Fri, February 13th, 2004, 05:00 PM   #4
John Stone
Owner
 
John Stone's Avatar
 
John Stone is offline
Join Date: Jan 20th, 2004
Location: Central Florida
Age: 41
Posts: 17,302
Sex: Male
Stats: 6', 199.6 pounds, 12.4% body fat (maintaining)
Default

I tore my rotator cuff doing very heavy weighted dips. My arms could handle more weight than my rotator cuff could. I've been doing rotator cuff strengthen exercises in an effort to make them stronger. I'm also going to cut out the weighted dips when I can do upper body workouts again.

I think your injury was a lot worse than mine, damn!
__________________
Main Site | Photo Journal | Youtube | Facebook | Twitter | New Home Journal (VIP) | JSF Xbox 360 Club (VIP) | Upgrade Your Membership!

"not alot can do it u have 2 be so rich......thats where steroids come sweet"
~ Incoherent YouTube user commenting on my 2008 bulking video
  Reply With Quote

Old Fri, February 13th, 2004, 05:19 PM   #5
netzig
Member
 
netzig's Avatar
 
netzig is offline
Join Date: Jan 23rd, 2004
Location: Utah
Age: 33
Posts: 38
Sex: Male
Stats: Ht: 6'2" Wt: 198 Lbs Got to get BF% down to 10!!!!
Default

The shock when I looked down and I couldnt see my shoulder is what really got me, the pain didnt even start until about 5 minutes after it happened. So I had to hold my arm up for an hour and a half until the Dr in the ER got around to putting it back into socket because if I let it fall the pressure would kill me. But it was a hard lesson I learned that day but one I will never forget.

Hopefully you can get your shoulder back up to strength without surgery!
  Reply With Quote

Old Fri, February 13th, 2004, 09:15 PM   #6
BusyChild
Senior Member
 
BusyChild is offline
Join Date: Jan 21st, 2004
Posts: 396
Default

Right after I got my new bench my wife was lifting on it and she tore her rotator cuff. She hasn't lifted since and it's been over a year.

She's in school now becoming a massage therapist so she cannot afford an injury now plus her work is her workout so to speak. But it took a long long long time for it to feel right again.

I've been watching Johns progress to see how his recovery has been going just to see if it was similiar to my wifes. She would feel 100 percent then do one rep and she'd know it wasn't ready yet.

When was John's injury, Oct or Nov last year I think?

It's a long road but since she has taken anatomy and pysiology (sp) we've learned that even when you are injured you should exercise it, although I would think exercises specific to the cuff rather than benching. I forget the reason, something about exercise will create new cells which hang around the injury area and lessen the scar tissue and make for a smoother recovery and less scar tissue.

Something like that. I'm sure others will have input or I can get her to put it to words if anyone is interested.

Thats my 2 cents
  Reply With Quote

Old Sat, February 14th, 2004, 06:22 AM   #7
Lord Gladiator
New Member
 
Lord Gladiator is offline
Join Date: Jan 29th, 2004
Location: Sampa
Age: 24
Posts: 4
Sex: Male
Default

Hey John,

Which exercises do you use to build rotator cuiff's strengh?
__________________
Become a Virtual Bodybuilder! Check-out this bodybuilding game
http://www.virtualbodybuilder.com/default.asp?ref=1416
  Reply With Quote

Reply

Bookmarks

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Forum Jump



All times are GMT -4. The time now is 07:21 PM.


rss   xml

Facebook   Twitter

vBulletin skins developed by: eXtremepixels
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.7.6
Copyright ©2000 - 2009, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Copyright ©2004 - 2009, John Stone Fitness LLC