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Thu, February 22nd, 2007, 01:47 PM
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Senior Member
George is offline
Join Date: Apr 18th, 2004
Posts: 13,440
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"Below you'll find my pre-transformation picture, my pre-2006 bulking picture and my current picture. These pictures are updated on the first of each month."
John, you might want to update this part.
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Thu, February 22nd, 2007, 02:17 PM
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#4182
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John Stone is offline
Join Date: Jan 20th, 2004
Location: Central Florida
Age: 41
Posts: 17,302
Sex: Male
Stats: 6', 199.6 pounds, 12.4% body fat (maintaining)
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Originally Posted by George
"Below you'll find my pre-transformation picture, my pre-2006 bulking picture and my current picture. These pictures are updated on the first of each month."
John, you might want to update this part.
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Thanks, George!
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Thu, February 22nd, 2007, 05:43 PM
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#4183
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Bitenose is offline
Join Date: Sep 30th, 2004
Location: Marietta, GA
Age: 25
Posts: 222
Sex: Male
Stats: 6'1", 185 lbs, 12% bf
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Originally Posted by John Stone
I think you misunderstood my update today. You might want to give it a closer read. I'm not talking about seeing my abs. Obviously I have a nice six pack at 8% body fat--you can see that by looking through my pictures. My abs were clearly visible back in 2003--did you see the pictures I posted today?
What I'm talking about is a small amount of fat below my belly button that remains even when I'm down to 6%. That's what I want to get rid of.
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*shrug* I think most would regard that as the (lower) abdominal area. Nonetheless, I think it'll be gone.. Phsysiologically, you're pretty-much a different animal.
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Thu, February 22nd, 2007, 06:09 PM
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Antimatter is offline
Join Date: Oct 17th, 2004
Posts: 232
Sex: Male
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It will be exciting following your progress to reach a "fatless" abdominal region- but one question I have is, will going to 4% eliminate the spot permanently, if it did'nt would you try to reach 3-4% every time you cut?
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Thu, February 22nd, 2007, 06:10 PM
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chris0374 is offline
Join Date: Sep 12th, 2006
Age: 21
Posts: 932
Sex: Male
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John, I think I posted that Tom Venuto ~4% body fat thingy. Here's the article.
http://www.bodybuildingforyou.com/ar...body-fat-1.htm
He didn't really write the article on the subject. He kinda did, but then the ~4% thing he just mentioned it once.
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Thu, February 22nd, 2007, 06:57 PM
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John Stone is offline
Join Date: Jan 20th, 2004
Location: Central Florida
Age: 41
Posts: 17,302
Sex: Male
Stats: 6', 199.6 pounds, 12.4% body fat (maintaining)
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Originally Posted by Bitenose
Nonetheless, I think it'll be gone.. .
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I don't think you're right, but I certainly hope you are.
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Originally Posted by Antimatter
It will be exciting following your progress to reach a "fatless" abdominal region- but one question I have is, will going to 4% eliminate the spot permanently, if it did'nt would you try to reach 3-4% every time you cut?
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No--and that's the problem. When I return to a more sustainable 7-8% body fat, it will come back. Maintaining 4% for any length of time is not feasible.
After talking with Mastover, I've decided against cutting to those levels. My 6% goal will remain. I'll go into more detail in tomorrow's daily update.
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Cool, thanks for posting that--it was a good read.
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Sat, February 24th, 2007, 08:57 AM
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beginner84 is offline
Join Date: Feb 21st, 2007
Location: Europe
Age: 25
Posts: 855
Sex: Male
Stats: 171cm/5.6 foot GROWING
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you know its really weird for me to read about people WANTING to get to 6% bodyfat,
i was skinny as §$%! and mal/undernourished for years and before i
started eating properly and weight training i was around 5-6 % ..
i am actually trying to get away from that right now
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Sat, February 24th, 2007, 09:37 AM
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doordude42 is offline
Join Date: Apr 28th, 2005
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Originally Posted by John Stone
I think you misunderstood my update today. My abs were clearly visible back in 2003--did you see the pictures I posted today?
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John, where are the pictures?
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Sat, February 24th, 2007, 09:39 PM
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John Stone is offline
Join Date: Jan 20th, 2004
Location: Central Florida
Age: 41
Posts: 17,302
Sex: Male
Stats: 6', 199.6 pounds, 12.4% body fat (maintaining)
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Originally Posted by beginner84
you know its really weird for me to read about people WANTING to get to 6% bodyfat,
i was skinny as §$%! and mal/undernourished for years and before i
started eating properly and weight training i was around 5-6 % ..
i am actually trying to get away from that right now 
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Malnurished 6% is quite a different look than a muscular 6%.
Keep training hard!
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John, where are the pictures?
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Thu, March 1st, 2007, 10:40 AM
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eleonardo is offline
Join Date: Dec 1st, 2004
Location: Amsterdam
Age: 32
Posts: 2,475
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Originally Posted by doordude42
John, where are the pictures?
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Thu, March 1st, 2007, 12:56 PM
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pedurrod is offline
Join Date: Jun 2nd, 2006
Location: Valencia, Spain
Age: 43
Posts: 146
Sex: Male
Stats: 5'9˝" (177 cm)..........
June 06 - 209 pds, >30% bf
May 08 - 172 pds, ~17% bf
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John,
I made a short video (abt. 40 seconds) with your transformation pictures. Is it o.k. if I upload it to YouTube and put a link from this thread?
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Thu, March 1st, 2007, 01:33 PM
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John Stone is offline
Join Date: Jan 20th, 2004
Location: Central Florida
Age: 41
Posts: 17,302
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Stats: 6', 199.6 pounds, 12.4% body fat (maintaining)
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Originally Posted by pedurrod
John,
I made a short video (abt. 40 seconds) with your transformation pictures. Is it o.k. if I upload it to YouTube and put a link from this thread?
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There is already one up there of my early transformation. My current cut is not completed yet, so I'd really rather wait until then if it's all the same to you. I'm still carrying a lot of fat right now and not "in shape".
I'd still be interested in checking your video out if you'd like to email it to me.
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Thu, March 1st, 2007, 01:59 PM
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pedurrod is offline
Join Date: Jun 2nd, 2006
Location: Valencia, Spain
Age: 43
Posts: 146
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Stats: 5'9˝" (177 cm)..........
June 06 - 209 pds, >30% bf
May 08 - 172 pds, ~17% bf
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Sure, I'll email it to you right now. It's abt. 764 kb.
Edition: I think Søren Ragsdale, with the plate stabilization technique can do a much better job. I'll enjoy watching the transformation video next summer.
Last edited by pedurrod; Fri, March 2nd, 2007 at 05:46 AM..
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Fri, March 2nd, 2007, 09:30 AM
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John Stone is offline
Join Date: Jan 20th, 2004
Location: Central Florida
Age: 41
Posts: 17,302
Sex: Male
Stats: 6', 199.6 pounds, 12.4% body fat (maintaining)
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"Four 215s".
Comparison shots at roughly the same weight over the years.
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Fri, March 2nd, 2007, 09:39 AM
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gazareth is offline
Join Date: Aug 1st, 2006
Location: UK
Age: 28
Posts: 4,608
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Stats: In search of EPOC
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Wow, it's amazing how much "softer" you look at 13% and 14%. Staggering really!
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Fri, March 2nd, 2007, 10:31 AM
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bagley61 is offline
Join Date: Aug 24th, 2004
Location: Farmington, MN
Age: 48
Posts: 30
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Looking good my man.
I think you have officially become my mental image of how I want to look physically when I get to my long term goal.
Awesome transformation - I love the side by sides at the same weight over the years.
Train hard and smart. Paul
I hope Turtle is feeling better this a.m.
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Fri, March 2nd, 2007, 02:20 PM
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John Stone is offline
Join Date: Jan 20th, 2004
Location: Central Florida
Age: 41
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Stats: 6', 199.6 pounds, 12.4% body fat (maintaining)
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Wow, it's amazing how much "softer" you look at 13% and 14%. Staggering really! 
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I messed up on the 3rd picture--I was actually at 12% body fat (not 13%) then. I corrected it.
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I hope Turtle is feeling better this a.m.
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Thanks, Paul.
Turtle is doing surprisingly well today, which is amazing because the doctors said today would be her most painful day. She actually seems pretty comfortable! Must be the Valium and codeine.
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Fri, March 2nd, 2007, 02:42 PM
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guava is offline
Join Date: Feb 15th, 2004
Age: 36
Posts: 11,528
Sex: Female
Stats: 5'5", somewhere around 125 pounds or so, near 17-20 %
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Originally Posted by John Stone
"Four 215s".
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 I love those comparison shots!
Very nice! Great progress.
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Fri, March 2nd, 2007, 02:46 PM
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guava is offline
Join Date: Feb 15th, 2004
Age: 36
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Stats: 5'5", somewhere around 125 pounds or so, near 17-20 %
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Originally Posted by John Stone
"Four 215s".
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I'm curious about whether you consciously had different "focal" body parts, or is that just the way it worked out. I see a lot of growth in pecs, biceps and quads between the second and third photos, and more of a difference in shoulders and lats in the last photo. Is that due to your shoulder injury, different training styles, something else, or am I imagining it?
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Fri, March 2nd, 2007, 08:42 PM
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John Stone is offline
Join Date: Jan 20th, 2004
Location: Central Florida
Age: 41
Posts: 17,302
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Stats: 6', 199.6 pounds, 12.4% body fat (maintaining)
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Originally Posted by guava
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Thank you! I know you love comparisons, and I thought of you when I was putting it together this morning.
I see you have your and Steve's adjustable DB's pictured in your new avatar. Nice--enjoy!
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Originally Posted by guava
I'm curious about whether you consciously had different "focal" body parts, or is that just the way it worked out. I see a lot of growth in pecs, biceps and quads between the second and third photos, and more of a difference in shoulders and lats in the last photo. Is that due to your shoulder injury, different training styles, something else, or am I imagining it? 
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Good question. Probably some of all of the above.
The 2005 post-bulk picture was right after my first bulk, which I'd started in August 2004 after about 8+ months of not being able to do any upper body workouts (shoulder injury). I was doing MAX-OT at the time, and made some nice strength gains, as well as some n00b mass gains. At that point I was just trying to pack on mass and increase my overall strength. If I recall correctly, there was no particular focus placed on any specific body part(s). I have to admit that I was worried about re-injuring my shoulder, and did not work my shoulders nearly as hard nor as effectively as I should/could have.
The 2006 picture was during my 2005 bulk (one month remaining). During that bulk I was focusing more on hypertrophy and less on strength gains. I remember wanting to really bring my back up, and I feel I did a good job there. I put too much emphasis on my arms and not enough on my shoulders, and that is very obvious in the 2006 picture. My legs grow if I even think the word "squat", so they didn't get any particular focus, but were worked hard. My chest growth came about, I believe, because I starting using lighter weight (but still challenging), doing higher reps/volume (4 sets of 10-12, 4 exercises) and focusing on the mind-muscle connection instead of just pushing the weight around. That made a huge difference.
I'll be the first to admit that the March 2007 photo still shows a lot of room for improvement in terms of symmetry, but it's clearly the best of the bunch. This past bulk I used the same exact principles that I used in the previous year's bulk, but I did place some added focus on what I believed were my weakest areas: shoulders, lats, traps and overall upper body width. That's not to say my other body parts got off easy!
I think my two biggest remaining weaknesses are my rear delts and my traps. My traps actually have grown quite a lot (many people don't realize that the trapezius is actually a much larger muscle group than "the two humps on either side of the neck"), but genetically I don't have a lot of height to my traps unless I'm doing a most muscular pose or something.
Right now I'm undecided about doing another bulk. I'm going to wait and see how I look after my cut is over. If I do another bulk, it's going to be much cleaner than the previous bulks. I put on way too much fat the past 3 bulks. In fact, I think I've been underestimating my body fat percentages for quite some time (including in my most recent picture). I'm going to talk a bit more about this in tomorrow's Daily News update.
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