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Old Mon, February 5th, 2007, 03:35 PM   #4081
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Because you are replying to my quote, this comment seems directed at me. Am I interpreting that incorrectly? Because clearly I'm not avoiding situations--I cooked the dang dinner for everyone, after all!

Ehh, no I'm not preaching to the preacher. Was just commenting on your comments and directing them outwardly.

You did cook the dinner.. Have you ever noticed that your sense of smell seems to be much keener when you're on a cut? Me, I just avoided the superbowl entirely, locked myself up and
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Old Mon, February 5th, 2007, 03:37 PM   #4082
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John just to let you know...

I hope to GOD the new sponsor is www.trueprotien.com
Ha, they even cover their bases and get business from people who don't know how to spell.. I'm impressed, even though I don't know what the heck 'waxy maize' is.. Some type of corn derivative?
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I hope to GOD the new sponsor is www.trueprotien.com
The new sponsor is not a supplement company. I'm still 100% pleased with AtLarge, and have no plans to switch protein sponsors.

That said, I order my Waxy Maize from trueprotein and think they are a fine company, too.


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Like you wouldn't believe...
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Old Tue, February 6th, 2007, 09:45 AM   #4085
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hey John what are your thoughts on CEE...do u recommend it??
CEE has worked well for me.
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Old Tue, February 6th, 2007, 11:26 AM   #4086
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I noticed I only post on this forum when I ask John something, and this time won't be any better

Anyway; John, I noticed that you only do 5-7 reps per set on the first three sets, but I couldn't understand if you meant that you did that amount of reps on the first EXERCISE or on the first set on each exercise? I asume that you meant the first exercise, but I wasn't sure...

So, asuming that you meant the first exercise; do you feel any differences adding reps to each exercise? I'm guessing you're not staying on the same weight... I'm having a hard time doing three exercises with three sets a piece and doing 8-12 reps as I am used to, so I was thinking about trying you're training instead

Last question: Do you use the same principle with your back? I mean, the back is an pretty big musclegroup... Or do you divide it into several parts like upper, lower and stuff like that?

Also, I gotta tell you that when it comes to training, I've realised that alot of the stuff you do work great on me! It's great to just look on your site, trying out new stuff and realising it's great
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Anyway; John, I noticed that you only do 5-7 reps per set on the first three sets, but I couldn't understand if you meant that you did that amount of reps on the first EXERCISE or on the first set on each exercise? I asume that you meant the first exercise, but I wasn't sure...
You're correct.

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So, asuming that you meant the first exercise; do you feel any differences adding reps to each exercise? I'm guessing you're not staying on the same weight...
The first exercise is a big compound exercise, performed very heavy. It's designed to build strength. The other two exercises are geared more towards hypertrophy.

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Last question: Do you use the same principle with your back? I mean, the back is an pretty big musclegroup... Or do you divide it into several parts like upper, lower and stuff like that?
The same principle: I start off with a big compound move (always deads) and then my next two exercises I do stuff like dumbbell rows, seated rows, T-bar rows, lat pulldowns, good mornings, etc. I switch the exercises around every 4 weeks.


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Old Tue, February 6th, 2007, 01:43 PM   #4088
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The same principle: I start off with a big compound move (always deads) and then my next two exercises I do stuff like dumbbell rows, low rows, T-bar rows, lat pulldowns, good mornings, etc. I switch the exercises around every 4 weeks.

John, how do you warm up for heavy deads?
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Old Tue, February 6th, 2007, 01:51 PM   #4089
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John, how do you warm up for heavy deads?
Before my heavy compound sets I usually do something similar to a MAX-OT warmup. I usually kick things off with an extra light set of 20, mainly to help get my blood pumping. Here's what I did last night:

Deads warmup
135 x 20
245 x 12
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3 x 5-7 x working weight
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Old Tue, February 6th, 2007, 02:04 PM   #4090
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Before my heavy compound sets I usually do something similar to a MAX-OT warmup. I usually kick things off with an extra light set of 20, mainly to help get my blood pumping. Here's what I did last night:

Deads warmup
135 x 20
245 x 12
365 x 6-8
405 x 2 (acclimation)

Deads Working
3 x 5-7 x working weight
Thank you. Acclimation being more, equal to or less than working weight? (I'm doing deads today and want some ideas.)
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Thank you. Acclimation being more, equal to or less than working weight? (I'm doing deads today and want some ideas.)
Less. For example my working sets last night were 3 x 7 x 430.
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Old Tue, February 6th, 2007, 02:07 PM   #4092
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Less. For example my working sets last night were 3 x 7 x 430.
Ummmm. You're a beast.

And thanks again.

Edit: If anyone else cares I did the math...

30% (of working set) x20
55% x12
85% x7
95% x2
100% (3x7)

So if you're like me and 275 would be a fine weight for 3x7, you'd do:
95x20
155x12
235x7
255x2
275 (3x7)
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Ummmm. You're a beast.
I credit the Egg Beaters. You should try them sometime.
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I credit the Egg Beaters. You should try them sometime.
...not bloody likely.
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Great workout tonight. I still have a considerable amount of fat to lose, but I'm slowly starting to see some more cuts and vascularity.

This picture was taken tonight after the chest portion of my workout, but before I did my direct triceps work.

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Great workout tonight. I still have a considerable amount of fat to lose, but I'm slowly starting to see some more cuts and vascularity.

This picture was taken tonight after the chest portion of my workout, but before I did my direct triceps work.

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That shirt doesn't look like a shirt!

Nice work John, lookin' huuuuge.
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and where did you purchase CEE? i cant find it anywhere
Really? It's in about 10 billion products (like BSN's CellMass, just to name one), and you can buy it in bulk from places like true protein.

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That shirt doesn't look like a shirt!
I only wear stringers to workout in--never outside the house, except maybe to take the trash out.

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Nice work John, lookin' huuuuge.
Thanks, but I'm trying to look smaller right now.
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Old Tue, February 6th, 2007, 11:17 PM   #4099
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Thanks, but I'm trying to look smaller right now.
Heh, still, losing the BF makes you look bigger!
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I only wear stringers to workout in--never outside the house, except maybe to take the trash out.
Heck, if I'm in my own house I wouldn't even wear a shirt. Less laundry Your cut phase appears to be working by the recent pic.
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