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Fri, February 3rd, 2006, 04:56 PM
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John Stone is offline
Join Date: Jan 20th, 2004
Location: Central Florida
Age: 41
Posts: 17,302
Sex: Male
Stats: 6', 199.6 pounds, 12.4% body fat (maintaining)
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Originally Posted by MrEd
Any plans to do heavy bag training as part of your cardio cutting? I have a hunch that doing this as part of the cardio would help minimize the muscle loss to your upper body.....(as compared to just running / elliptical / biking etc...)
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No, heavy bag training would tend to be anaerobic - plus it's very hard on my shoulders. I do fasted LISS cardio in the morning and lift weights in the evening. The SGX eating patterns combined with the weight training and cardio will prevent muscle loss. In fact, the last time I did SGX I added muscle while cutting fat.
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Fri, February 3rd, 2006, 08:16 PM
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#2542
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John Stone is offline
Join Date: Jan 20th, 2004
Location: Central Florida
Age: 41
Posts: 17,302
Sex: Male
Stats: 6', 199.6 pounds, 12.4% body fat (maintaining)
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The past couple of days I've been dragging a bit as I adapt to the reduced calories, but that's only temporary. I felt pretty good all day today, and my workout was AWESOME. Man, SGX has the nutrient timing down SOLID. It gives you what you need, when you need it. I just follow the plan, and by the time my workout rolls around I'm full of energy and ready to go. In fact, I'd say I felt more energetic tonight than I did the last couple weeks of my bulk!
Now that I'm on SGX, I'm moving from a 5-day split to a 4-day split. Basically I'm combining delts and arms and working them on the same day. I work delts first since they need the most attention, then I superset my biceps/triceps.
So here's the amazing thing. I'm cutting, I've lost 6.2 pounds of mostly water in just 2 days, yet my arms are bigger than ever. I actually hit 19 inches pumped! I wasn't even going to take any pictures tonight, but when I measured after my workout and saw 19 inches I almost fell over.
SwoleCat and SGX,
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Fri, February 3rd, 2006, 08:18 PM
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chicanerous is offline
Join Date: Feb 1st, 2004
Posts: 15,516
Sex: Male
Stats: 5'9"
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That's unreal!
I wasn't lying a few months ago when I said I will not be suprised if you hit a 20" pumped. I'm still standing by that.
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Fri, February 3rd, 2006, 08:22 PM
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marcus is offline
Join Date: Jan 31st, 2004
Location: Melbourne, Australia
Posts: 1,414
Sex: Male
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WOW! I can't wait to see how you look when you finish cutting. How much bigger are you hoping to get?
At the end of your bulk you looked like you were wearing a sumo suit
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Fri, February 3rd, 2006, 08:23 PM
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Coachese is offline
Join Date: Apr 12th, 2005
Posts: 3,615
Sex: Female
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You are a machine!
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Fri, February 3rd, 2006, 08:29 PM
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John Stone is offline
Join Date: Jan 20th, 2004
Location: Central Florida
Age: 41
Posts: 17,302
Sex: Male
Stats: 6', 199.6 pounds, 12.4% body fat (maintaining)
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I'm in shock right now. I hit a tad over 18.75" on my last bulking workout, and I figured that was it for this go-round.
The last time I did SGX I put 1/2 inch on my arms while losing fat, but I don't see how that's going to be possible this time since my arms are bigger than they've ever been and I've got a lot more fat to lose this time (granted not much on my arms, but still). My arms are a little over 17.5 inches unpumped right now, and if they are 17.25 when I'm done cutting I'll be very satisfied.
I would like to get them to about 19 inches cold next bulk (if possible) and then have them 18.5 - 18.75 inches after I cut. I don't want them any bigger than that (I reserve the right to change my mind). I hope Lisa doesn't read that.
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Fri, February 3rd, 2006, 08:45 PM
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Cziffra is offline
Join Date: Jun 22nd, 2004
Location: Cambridge, England
Age: 33
Posts: 1,195
Sex: Male
Stats: ~80% bf. If no more...
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Fri, February 3rd, 2006, 08:55 PM
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John Stone is offline
Join Date: Jan 20th, 2004
Location: Central Florida
Age: 41
Posts: 17,302
Sex: Male
Stats: 6', 199.6 pounds, 12.4% body fat (maintaining)
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Cziffra, wow - thanks man! Are you trying to give me a head to match my arms?
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Fri, February 3rd, 2006, 09:51 PM
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Cziffra is offline
Join Date: Jun 22nd, 2004
Location: Cambridge, England
Age: 33
Posts: 1,195
Sex: Male
Stats: ~80% bf. If no more...
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Originally Posted by John Stone
Cziffra, wow - thanks man! Are you trying to give me a head to match my arms? 
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Haha, nope... If your arms get EVER as well structured as your head, you'd beat the crap out of Ronnie.
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Fri, February 3rd, 2006, 09:54 PM
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Senior Member
doordude42 is offline
Join Date: Apr 28th, 2005
Location: The BIG APPLE
Posts: 10,318
Sex: Male
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Originally Posted by Cziffra
Haha, nope... If your arms get EVER as well structured as your head, you'd beat the crap out of Ronnie. 
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Jeez dude, that's awesome. And I hate to use the word awesome when talking about a guy!!!!!!
Last edited by doordude42; Fri, February 3rd, 2006 at 10:11 PM..
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Fri, February 3rd, 2006, 10:05 PM
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chicanerous is offline
Join Date: Feb 1st, 2004
Posts: 15,516
Sex: Male
Stats: 5'9"
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You know pretty soon your arm is going to bigger in pumped circumference than some guys' thighs.  That puts things into quite the perspective.
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Fri, February 3rd, 2006, 10:10 PM
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Owner
John Stone is offline
Join Date: Jan 20th, 2004
Location: Central Florida
Age: 41
Posts: 17,302
Sex: Male
Stats: 6', 199.6 pounds, 12.4% body fat (maintaining)
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Originally Posted by Cziffra
Haha, nope... If your arms get EVER as well structured as your head, you'd beat the crap out of Ronnie. 
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 Not bad, not bad at all!
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Fri, February 3rd, 2006, 10:12 PM
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John Stone is offline
Join Date: Jan 20th, 2004
Location: Central Florida
Age: 41
Posts: 17,302
Sex: Male
Stats: 6', 199.6 pounds, 12.4% body fat (maintaining)
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Originally Posted by doordude42
Jeez dude, that's fucking awesome. And I hate to use the word awesome when talking about a guy!!!!!! 
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You may hate to use the word "awesome", but the word "fucking" flows from your keyboard like water from a faucet.
Thanks DD!
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Fri, February 3rd, 2006, 10:14 PM
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#2554
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Owner
John Stone is offline
Join Date: Jan 20th, 2004
Location: Central Florida
Age: 41
Posts: 17,302
Sex: Male
Stats: 6', 199.6 pounds, 12.4% body fat (maintaining)
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Originally Posted by chicanerous
You know pretty soon your arm is going to bigger in pumped circumference than some guys' thighs.  That puts things into quite the perspective.
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They are already bigger than Lisa's thighs. She thinks that's hilarious. I think she needs to squat.
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Fri, February 3rd, 2006, 10:24 PM
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Hort is offline
Join Date: Sep 6th, 2004
Age: 43
Posts: 2,866
Sex: Male
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I wonder what it is, John, about SGX and the arms.
I'm just finishing my first run through SGX (starting USP2 soon) and I, too, gained more mass on my arms and shoulders than anywhere else, relatively speaking. Especially the tries.
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Sat, February 4th, 2006, 12:06 AM
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SwoleCat is offline
Join Date: Apr 23rd, 2004
Posts: 1,814
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That's insane!!
I told ya this time around would be fun though!
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Originally Posted by John Stone
The past couple of days I've been dragging a bit as I adapt to the reduced calories, but that's only temporary. I felt pretty good all day today, and my workout was AWESOME. Man, SGX has the nutrient timing down SOLID. It gives you what you need, when you need it. I just follow the plan, and by the time my workout rolls around I'm full of energy and ready to go. In fact, I'd say I felt more energetic tonight than I did the last couple weeks of my bulk!
Now that I'm on SGX, I'm moving from a 5-day split to a 4-day split. Basically I'm combining delts and arms and working them on the same day. I work delts first since they need the most attention, then I superset my biceps/triceps.
So here's the amazing thing. I'm cutting, I've lost 6.2 pounds of mostly water in just 2 days, yet my arms are bigger than ever. I actually hit 19 inches pumped! I wasn't even going to take any pictures tonight, but when I measured after my workout and saw 19 inches I almost fell over.
SwoleCat and SGX, 
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Sat, February 4th, 2006, 06:03 AM
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Senior Member
Happy Monster is offline
Join Date: Nov 14th, 2005
Location: Nottingham, UK
Age: 32
Posts: 3,727
Sex: Male
Stats: 5"10", 61kg
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You'll need your bones to grow next to fit in all that muscle!
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Sat, February 4th, 2006, 09:29 AM
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eleonardo is offline
Join Date: Dec 1st, 2004
Location: Amsterdam
Age: 32
Posts: 2,475
Sex: Male
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goes to show that hard work, dedication and the right tools will get you very far.
remarkable work John, you should be very proud of yourself!
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Sat, February 4th, 2006, 11:56 AM
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Senior Member
Devery is offline
Join Date: Aug 26th, 2004
Location: Honolulu, Hawaii
Posts: 1,410
Sex: Male
Stats: As of 25 Aug 07...
69 inches...
175 lbs...
12.0% body fat...
Abdomen: 31.5 inches...
Waist: 30.5 inches
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Sat, February 4th, 2006, 12:24 PM
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Senior Member
doordude42 is offline
Join Date: Apr 28th, 2005
Location: The BIG APPLE
Posts: 10,318
Sex: Male
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Originally Posted by John Stone
You may hate to use the word "awesome", but the word "fucking" flows from your keyboard like water from a faucet.
Thanks DD! 
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Ah yes........but you'll notice I deleted it quickly after realizing where I was.
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