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Emilio November 5th, 2004, 04:43 AM Hey,
Just curious. How are boiled eggs for a quick meal/snack when I at school in between classes. Small meals are hard to prepare and bring with me to school. I figure I can cook up a dozen eggs at a time and keep em in the fridge for a quick healthy snack. And if it matters I am cutting.
let me know,
Emilio
Human Clay November 5th, 2004, 04:56 AM 5-6 grams of fat in one egg yolk, just keep that in mind. There are probably better portable protein sources out there.
Frenchie November 5th, 2004, 05:02 AM For snacks I just boil some eggs and then take out the yolk! Maybe sometimes I'll treat myself and eat one with the yolk as well... :drool:
dobber38 November 5th, 2004, 06:35 AM I have 2 HB eggs at least 5 days a week.
I eat the whole thing. Eggs are a complete protein and were meant to be be eaten whole.
bni November 5th, 2004, 08:49 AM yea for breakfast i like to have like 2 whole eggs and then like i duno how many eggwhites. 6-8.
Knubb November 5th, 2004, 09:07 AM Eggs are a complete protein and were meant to be be eaten whole.
Eggs were meant to make chickens. (edit: or other animals)
Don't fear the fat. You need fat to be healthy, and to be able to lose weight. I eat 3-6 whole raw eggs a day. My cholesterol levels are excellent by the way.
vovo November 5th, 2004, 09:21 AM is there really a difference between raw and cooked.
i knew a few people who took them raw, mainly mixed in with milk a sort of eggnog (protein shake)
[Boarding school in Zimbabwe you had to do with you could get.]
Knubb November 5th, 2004, 09:27 AM is there really a difference between raw and cooked.
i knew a few people who took them raw, mainly mixed in with milk a sort of eggnog (protein shake)
[Boarding school in Zimbabwe you had to do with you could get.]
As far as I know, heat break proteins down, so it would be ideal to take it in raw. Hard to do when eating meat though. I don't know to what extent this happens when cooking stuff, but I think it's worth knowing.
Emilio November 5th, 2004, 09:34 AM So will like 2 HB eggs a day be detrimental to my cutting? I mean I'd rather have something than nothing when I am at school. I am stuck with 3 larger meals instead of the 5-6 smaller meals I'd like.. I just figured it'd be a good way to get a meal(with a piece of fruit or something).
- Emilio
badgolfer November 5th, 2004, 09:44 AM So will like 2 HB eggs a day be detrimental to my cutting? I mean I'd rather have something than nothing when I am at school. I am stuck with 3 larger meals instead of the 5-6 smaller meals I'd like.. I just figured it'd be a good way to get a meal(with a piece of fruit or something).
- Emilio
it should not be detrimental to you cutting at all. i bring them to class for my night classes after work. they hold me over until i get home. i eat the whole thing too and it makes me thirsty so you might want to bring a bottle of water if you dont already.
Jaybird November 5th, 2004, 10:05 AM I agree with many posts above. Eggs are excellent sources of protein, and the fat is ok, too. However, the yolks are very high in cholesterol. I say eat no more than 1 yolk a day. One yolk is 70% of your daily allowance of cholesterol. Just something to think about. I get my fat sources from other lower cholesterol options, like almonds, peanuts, and flax oil. So would I eat hard boiled eggs? Yes, actually I do. But about 75% of the time I toss the yolks.
slush_puppy November 5th, 2004, 11:05 AM I'm not really sure about the whole protein breaking down thing. I don't have any scientific data, but we all cook a lot of meat and don't worry about the protein breaking down in it. I just don't buy it.
Personally, I would stay the heck away from raw eggs just from the health risk alone.
G_Man November 5th, 2004, 11:05 AM I eat 1 whole egg mixed with 5 egg whites scrambled a day. 1 yolk will put you very close to the total maximum recommended cholesterol for a day.
JMR November 5th, 2004, 11:28 AM I've eaten up to a dozen whole eggs per day and never had high cholesterol.... 136 at my last test. Again, I think it's a matter of genetics. If you're predispositioned to have high cholesterol problems then it might not even matter what you eat.
minilifter November 5th, 2004, 11:53 AM A couple points about dietary (consumed) cholestrol.
1. The cholestrol you eat has been shown to have no effect (or very little) on your blood level of cholestrol. (See reference)
2. Some even suspect that getting too little dietary cholestrol can have a negative effect on blood cholestrol levels (your body's not getting enough from the food it's eating so it produces more)
3. Testosterone (very good thing for a man)is made of cholesterol
Bowman MP, et al. "Effect of dietary fat and cholesterol on plasma lipids and lipoprotein fractions in normolipidemic men." J Nutr 1988 May;118(5):555-60
Jaybird November 5th, 2004, 11:55 AM Bowman MP, et al. "Effect of dietary fat and cholesterol on plasma lipids and lipoprotein fractions in normolipidemic men." J Nutr 1988 May;118(5):555-60
Sweet. I'll be heading to the library to check that paper out.
Knubb November 5th, 2004, 01:53 PM I'm not really sure about the whole protein breaking down thing. I don't have any scientific data, but we all cook a lot of meat and don't worry about the protein breaking down in it. I just don't buy it.
Personally, I would stay the heck away from raw eggs just from the health risk alone.
I did a little research, and here's a link that explains how the breaking (denaturing (http://science.howstuffworks.com/question616.htm)) of protein works. Turns out I wasn't completely accurate in my statement though, as the heat used in cooking an egg wouldn't be hot enough to actually denature the proteins to a point where they can't be joint together again. Other links I found (that were somewhat less credible than the one I posted) suggested that the boiled eggs actually are better for you than the raw ones.
I can't see how raw eggs would be any more of a health risk than boiled ones. I'll certainly keep using mine, as I like them better that way.
JMR November 5th, 2004, 02:33 PM Although the chances are low, salmonella is the problem with raw eggs. If you ever get it then you'll be cooking your eggs from then on ...
Knubb November 5th, 2004, 02:43 PM I thought salmonella was a factor when eating chicken meat uncooked, and not the eggs. People use raw eggs for many things, like egg nog or certain cakes and stuff. Does that mean they really shouldn't?
Emilio November 5th, 2004, 02:44 PM I think I am going to be adding 1-2 eggs per day to my diet. My fat intake is very low due to my mostly chicken/salmon and fruits/veggies diet. Still a lil weary of the fat/cholesterol thing though.
- Emilio
JMR November 5th, 2004, 03:33 PM I don't use raw eggs in egg nog but I buy it in a carton anyhow and cakes are cooked... at least all the ones that I've ever seen. No, it's not a good idea to eat raw eggs. At least buy the pasteurized egg whites in the carton. That's what I use in my shakes.
Today, some unbroken fresh shell eggs may contain the bacteria Salmonella enteritidis that can cause foodborne illness. While the number of eggs affected is small, there have been scattered outbreaks in the past few years.
Researchers say that if present, salmonella bacteria are usually in the yolk or yellow of the egg but they cannot rule out entirely the bacteria being present in the egg white. No individual should eat raw or undercooked egg yolks or whites or products containing them.
Individuals with health problems, the very young, the elderly, and pregnant and nursing women are particularly susceptible to Salmonella enteriditis infection. Chronic illnesses also weaken the immune system making individuals vulnerable to foodborne illnesses.
Do not eat raw eggs including ""health-food" milk shakes containing raw eggs, Ceasar salad, Hollandaise sauce, and any other foods like homemade mayonnaise, ice cream or eggnog where the eggs are not cooked.
Source: Consumer Information from USDA: Egg and Egg Product Safety, October 1996.
I thought salmonella was a factor when eating chicken meat uncooked, and not the eggs. People use raw eggs for many things, like egg nog or certain cakes and stuff. Does that mean they really shouldn't?
Knubb November 5th, 2004, 04:10 PM I didn't mean to imply that the cakes themselves included raw eggs, but some have raw eggs in frostings and the like.
It's interesting information though, I think I might rethink my raw eggs...
kentnutrition November 5th, 2004, 06:19 PM According to the CDC, around 650,000 cases of salmonella in the USA every year are directly attributed to the consumption of raw or uncooked eggs.
DeafNgari November 5th, 2004, 07:49 PM Generally speaking farm fresh non over industrialized egg production (more expensive) eggs will carry a lower risk of samonella... never use an egg you need raw that has an crack in the shell no matter how small. One way you can test is putting it in liquid and checking for air bubbles coming out of the egg... too much work if you ask me. I just cook all my eggs. By no means will normal cooking "ruin" the protein you are eating. It is true you will uterly destroy the ternary and any quatenary structure of the proteins by cooking them and make a globular mess, but the amino acids are generally intact. You body builds all the proteins it needs on its own... you just break everything you intake into components then use it as your own building blocks.
Emilio November 6th, 2004, 01:03 AM While we are still talking eggs.. What should I look for when buying eggs?Whats the best kind of eggs you can buy for say under $5 a dozen. I figure 1 dozen a week is more then enough. I can cook 6 at a time and keep them in the fridge. Is it ok to peel then leave them in a container or would I be better off leaving them with the shell on. As for the whole fat/cholesterol would I be better off eating 1 whole egg and then 1 egg white only or just eat the two eggs(this is in one day).
- Emilio
JMR November 6th, 2004, 01:11 AM If you're not going to eat a substantial number of eggs then forget 'em. They're not worth your time. Too much trouble for 7-8 grams of protein if you're just gonna chuck down a few egg whites per day.
DeafNgari November 6th, 2004, 03:29 AM While we are still talking eggs.. What should I look for when buying eggs?Whats the best kind of eggs you can buy for say under $5 a dozen. I figure 1 dozen a week is more then enough. I can cook 6 at a time and keep them in the fridge. Is it ok to peel then leave them in a container or would I be better off leaving them with the shell on. As for the whole fat/cholesterol would I be better off eating 1 whole egg and then 1 egg white only or just eat the two eggs(this is in one day).
- Emilio
Man when I make eggs I typically have 6 whites and a couple whole eggs. Just get em for like a 1.20$ for dozen and eat em regularly if you want. Only way Id leave em in the fridge would be hard boiled otherwise they probably wont be tasting too great.
kingink November 6th, 2004, 04:26 AM I can't see how raw eggs would be any more of a health risk than boiled ones. I'll certainly keep using mine, as I like them better that way.
I think it is mainly the concern for salmonella poisoning.
Hort November 6th, 2004, 08:21 AM While we are still talking eggs.. What should I look for when buying eggs?Whats the best kind of eggs you can buy for say under $5 a dozen.
Wow- what kind of eggs are you seeing for that price? I just buy standard large eggs in bulk, either 18 or 24 at a time, it's only about 5-6 cents per egg. Personally it's worth it too me. Takes a couple of minutes to crack and separate 5-6 eggs... or I eat whole eggs. Just depends on the day and the need.
rmu_teen November 6th, 2004, 09:52 AM Hort, the question i have for you is where do you live htat you can get eggs that cheap? lol thats a great deal less than what i pay also.
Emilio November 6th, 2004, 05:00 PM Hort - the $5 figure was for a decent amount of those non-hormone organic farm fresh eggs. And a wild guess ;-)
Hort November 6th, 2004, 06:27 PM Hort, the question i have for you is where do you live htat you can get eggs that cheap? lol thats a great deal less than what i pay also.
Minnesota... but that's just when bought in bulk. Eggs are cheap here but milk/dairy is not. We pay $3.85 a gallon for skim milk and $5 for good ice cream. But even a dozen organic eggs here is like $3.
Winner November 6th, 2004, 08:45 PM I just learned this in biochm class. I heard that raw eggs contains an glycoprotein or was it an enzyme, avidin, which binds to biotin, a B vitamin, leading to biotin deficiency.
Emilio November 6th, 2004, 08:51 PM Ok got me some eggs today... then promptly let a case of water slip out of my grip and crack 4 of the dozen... Anyways I got these "Omega 3" eggs.. seems like a bunch of marketing hype but I figured I'd give em a whirl. So far so good they taste just like any other egg. So my last question is will eating 2 a day with a meal or as a snack/meal at school hurt my cutting? Is the whole cholesteral/fat issue something I should consider?
- Emilio
DeafNgari November 6th, 2004, 09:16 PM Ok got me some eggs today... then promptly let a case of water slip out of my grip and crack 4 of the dozen... Anyways I got these "Omega 3" eggs.. seems like a bunch of marketing hype but I figured I'd give em a whirl. So far so good they taste just like any other egg. So my last question is will eating 2 a day with a meal or as a snack/meal at school hurt my cutting? Is the whole cholesteral/fat issue something I should consider?
- Emilio
Well yes you shoudl consider fat when cutting.... but.... only in the sense that you need to make sure you are getting enough. Very few people have the problem of eating too much fat when they cut. Eating fat wont make you fat. Eating too much makes you fat. There are actually a fair number of fats that essenstial to your body because we lack the ability unsaturate our fat chains past a certain point (carbon 9ish or so.. dont remember the exact number).
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