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Justitia
Sat, October 23rd, 2004, 01:23 PM
I am past menopause which has caused my testosterone levels to drop dramatically. Many HRTs (hormone replacement therapy) for women include some form of testosterone. I use more natural (prescription) forms that are actual duplicates of progesterone and estrogen than the more widely prescribed ones that are synthetic. The synthetics have the ingredients that all the studies have been showing cause various forms of cancer and have all kinds of poor side effects such as PMS, etc.

However, I am having difficulting replacing the testosterone. I have prescribed to me by my doctor and mixed by a pharmacist methyltestosterone at half the normally prescribed dosage for women and even that I have tried (at my doctor's suggestion) to dilute it in water to drink over a week period.

The problem is that though it resolves certain issues, it also causes me to eat like crazy.

We have also tried a topical cream, which is not as effective in terms of resolving the physiological concerns but it still stimulates my appetite significantly.

I have been thinking about trying DHEA, which is a precursor to testosterone. I tried it many years ago when it first bcame big (and before I started perimenopause) but I did not like its effects.

Now I am reading about MAX OT and it recommends it. I assume the stuff has been improved over 8 years ago and understood better.

Does anyone have any experience with it?

slush_puppy
Sat, October 23rd, 2004, 07:38 PM
DHEA converts to something called androstenedione. Androstenedione is the prohormone that Mark Mcguire made famous a couple of years ago. DHEA as well as androstenedione both eventually convert to testosterone, but androstenedione is only one conversion away, where DHEA is three conversions away from testosterone. DHEA is a genuine prohormone and is generally stayed away from by most male weight lifters because it also converts easily to estrogen during a process called aromatization. That's something that most guys try to avoid. Androstenedione has been officially banned because of its abuse. Read up as much as you can on DHEA and tell your doctor before you try it, it will give you side effects like being very hot tempered and agitated.

CASD
Sat, October 23rd, 2004, 10:28 PM
I tried a couple of months ago .. I had to quit it... I got very aggressive..and short tempered..
I guess I didn't need it :)

Justitia
Sun, October 24th, 2004, 02:39 AM
I tried a couple of months ago .. I had to quit it... I got very aggressive..and short tempered..
I guess I didn't need it :)

Thanks guys--for your feedback. I guess I don't need to became any more aggressive and uneven tempered than I already am. It's much less tolerated in a woman. I think the agitation was what I experienced when i tried it.

WHy do you suppose Max OT is so high on it?

slush_puppy
Sun, October 24th, 2004, 10:33 AM
WHy do you suppose Max OT is so high on it?
That's a good question. I didn't read the MaxOT literature too thoroughly, but I personally think it's a bit irresponsible to go recommending something like that to people who may not know the consequences. That already happens too much in the BB magazines. AST sells their own DHEA, so you can make up your own logical connection there. Then again I didn't read the doc all the way, so it's hard for me to make a judgement.

CASD
Sun, October 24th, 2004, 10:44 AM
I will have to say that I was taking what I was told was a doses that would show results and that was 200mg a day.. Which maybe is to much for me.. But I'm not sure if it was worth it even considering the side effects.. I just didn't feel any benefits..