Hello, I'm starting on the negative calorie diet today, where basically all I will eat for the next 7 days is green veggies and maybe some fruits. I've heard some good and bad stories about this perticular diet and I'm wondering what you all have to say about it. Any input would be appreciated, thanks :)

I think it's a terrible idea.

Good luck.

I think it's a terrible idea.

Good luck.

I was hoping for a more 'detailed' description of why you think it's a bad idea, but thank's for the input

I was hoping for a more 'detailed' description of why you think it's a bad idea, but thank's for the input

Unless you're very careful, you won't get the proper nutrients. Not much more to say than that.

-R

7 days, nothing will hurt you that much. Fruits and green veggies have calories. Take some vitamins. Drink plenty of water.

Now what do you think you will accomplish?

7 days, nothing will hurt you that much. Fruits and green veggies have calories. Take some vitamins. Drink plenty of water.

well keep in mind ill be taking my whey protein shakes.

im basiclly just doing an expiriment to see what kind of results will come out of this.

just to try something new for the most part.

well keep in mind ill be taking my whey protein shakes.

Well, you neglected to mention that.

Regardless, living off vegetables doesn't supply you any EFAs, carbs, protein or nutrients in other foods. Even protein shakes can't replace the nutrients in real foods. Fruit is good for the sugars and nutrients it offers, but again, no EFAs or protein.

It sounds to me like a useless attempt to lose weight. I don't know why you'd do it when you can just eat a healthy, well balanced diet to achieve better results. However, I welcome you to try it.

And for what it's worth, I thought you were kidding at first.

Well, you neglected to mention that.

Regardless, living off vegetables doesn't supply you any EFAs, carbs, protein or nutrients in other foods. Even protein shakes can't replace the nutrients in real foods. Fruit is good for the sugars and nutrients it offers, but again, no EFAs or protein.

It sounds to me like a useless attempt to lose weight. I don't know why you'd do it when you can just eat a healthy, well balanced diet to achieve better results. However, I welcome you to try it.

And for what it's worth, I thought you were kidding at first.

i have been on a well balanced diet now for 3 months. this is more or less a break from it for a week to try new things. think of it as a weird cheat week every couple of months.

i have been on a well balanced diet now for 3 months. this is more or less a break from it for a week to try new things. think of it as a weird cheat week every couple of months.

Well, like I said go for it. If you've been on a calorie deficit diet for 3 months, I honestly think a true cheat week would be better suited for you.

Well, like I said go for it. If you've been on a calorie deficit diet for 3 months, I honestly think a true cheat week would be better suited for you.
we'll see what happens

Do you have access to the e-book or are you just trying to wing it? Because you're not allowed to eat just any fruits and vegetables (I was surprised to see apples and pineapples on there though). I was going to try it so I found out the list of foods, but I just didn't see myself sticking to it. Nutrition wise, it doesn't look too bad - you're allowed a variety of seafood so you get the protein - but it looks really boring. I could never really get into it. Apparently there is some kind of exercise you're supposed to do to keep energy levels up, but you're not supposed to do any vigorous exercise.

I might try this diet if I become grounded in a wheelchair one day ;) I couldn't survive at the gym if I had "negative calories" all day.

I'm interested to see what your results will be however.

I think thats awesome to experiment with your diet.

However. This is what I was reading last night in Clarence Bass' Ripped 2
"The Famine Phenomenon....Incredible as it may seem, starving yourself before a competition can make you fatter. Cutting off the food supply shocks the body. Your body doesn't know you're preparing for a contest. It thinks famine is coming, and it braces for the famin by storing extra fat to live on.
Covert Bailey ,in his excellent book Fit or Fat?, says that "fasting will encourage your body to become fatter." He explains that research has proven that severe diets cause the body to produce more of the enzymes responsible for the depositing of fat. These fat depositing enzymes create what he calls "a fat person's chemistry." They create a tendency to get fat......
Frankly, I didn't believe I could eat less and gain fat - until it happened to me...twice!

[He details how he reduced his diet by 750 calories per day and ended up gaining 1.3% body fat (to 3.7%) in just one week. Its too long to transcribe.]

Bodybuilders striving for maximum muscle with an absolute minimum of fat must learn to deal with the famine phenomenon. The phenomenon becomes more important the closer you come to ultimate muscularity. Take your time in shedding the last remnants of fat for competition. Don't try to lose more than one pound of fat a week. Stick to a balanced diet. Use aerobic exercise. Reduce your calorie consumption slightly. Increase your calorie expenditure slightly. Your success will depend on how well you deal with the famine phenomenon."

This is all a quote from Clarence Bass in "Ripped II."

Just thought it was good advice.

i totally agree with you, but the thing is with this diet (if i dont cheat) there is no fat intake. its basiclly all water and something for my stomach to digest and get the metabolism burning. ive heard people talk about the immense amount of engery they have from being on this diet, im hoping to see good results.

I might try this diet if I become grounded in a wheelchair one day ;) I couldn't survive at the gym if I had "negative calories" all day.

I'm interested to see what your results will be however.

yeah, another thing i forgot to mention is that this is my week off from weight training, but i will continue to do morning cardio sessions on the elliptical.

Do you have access to the e-book or are you just trying to wing it? Because you're not allowed to eat just any fruits and vegetables (I was surprised to see apples and pineapples on there though). I was going to try it so I found out the list of foods, but I just didn't see myself sticking to it. Nutrition wise, it doesn't look too bad - you're allowed a variety of seafood so you get the protein - but it looks really boring. I could never really get into it. Apparently there is some kind of exercise you're supposed to do to keep energy levels up, but you're not supposed to do any vigorous exercise.

i have yet to purchase the e-book, but i plan to someday when i can get caught up on some bills. i also plan on being a platnuim member on this forum someday as well.

ive been reading about this diet for some time now and i think it's time to try it.

Well, here's a list of foods given on the website forum. Even though I don't see myself being able to stick to it (I don't even know what some of the foods are), I'm really curious about the diet. It says on the website that you're supposed to eat as much as you want and not think about calories or exercise a lot. I'm sure there's a lot more to it, but I didn't want to buy the book when I didn't really believe that it worked. btw, the guy who was running the site gave the list of foods so I'm sure it would be okay to pass along.

anyway, good luck!

Vegetables:
Artichokes
Asparagus
Broccoli
Brussels sprouts
Cabbage
Chinese cabbage
Carrots
Cauliflower
Celeriac
Celery
Chervil
Chicory
Chives
Tomato (fresh/canned)
Corn (cob/canned)
Cucumbers
Dill pickles
Eggplant
Endive
Garlic
Kale
Kohlrabi
Leeks
Lettuce
Mushrooms
Mustard greens
Onions
Parsley leaves
Turnips
Watercress
Parsnips (raw/boiled)
Peas
Peppers (green/red)
Pickles (sour/sweet)
Pumpkin
Radishes
Rappini
Red cabbage
Rhubarb
Rutabagas
Sauerkraut
Salsify
Scallions
Shallots
Sorrel
Spinach

Fruits:
Apples
Apricots
Blackberries
Blueberries
Cantaloupe
Cherries
Cranberries
Currants
Damson plum
Figs
Fruit salad (fresh/canned)
Grapefruit
Grapes
Honeydew melon
Huckleberries
Kiwi
Kumquats
Lemons
Limes
Loganberries
Mangoes
Muskmelons
Nectarines
Oranges
Papaya
Peaches
Pears
Pineapple
Pomegranates
Prunes
Quince
Raspberries
Strawberries
Tangerines
Watermelon

Meat:
Abalone
Bass (fresh water/sea)
Buffalo fish
Catfish
Clams (cooked)
Cod Steaks
Crab
Crayfish
Flounder
Frog legs
Mussels
Oysters (half shell)
Shrimp
Terrapin
Trout
Tuna

I hope you don't lose a lot of muscle on this new diet of yours. Good Luck.

You'll probably lose lbs overall on the scale, but it's not a very good approach, for reasons already mentioned.

I hope you don't lose a lot of muscle on this new diet of yours. Good Luck.

that makes two of us

no longer a fan of the challenge of greatness, jk0?

I am all for experimenting and figuring out what works for your body, but this sounds kind of silly to be honest. It seems to me like you are looking for a quicker way to your end goal or a way to cut corners so to speak. Patience is the key when it comes to building the body you want. It is a journey that takes a lot lot lot of time. I will maintain to my grave that a well balanced properly adjusted calorie diet is always the way to go. Eating tons of fruits and veggies is a WONDERFUL thing to do, but throw in some nuts, lean meat, some brown rice or something you are are even better off. Just my opinion.

no longer a fan of the challenge of greatness, jk0?

haha, i dont think anyone is :lol:

i think its a good idea IF you have properly researched it
i know there are some good things about doing fasts, juice fasts, fiber detox's, and all that, it can really clear out your system, however you should do more research into fasting and detoxing your system before attempting this, remember that it would be smart to continue your weight training, and make sure you do it properly!

also be prepared to lose LBM, but if you belive clearing out your system is worth the LBM loss, then go for it, which is also why researching the topic is a good idea, to make sure you get the best benefits from it, i wouldnt just start eating nothing but vegies all day!