View Full Version : Machines versus free weights


jesse1
September 22nd, 2004, 08:41 PM
What is the difference between a 200 pound free weight bench press and a 200 pound bench press on a weight machine. I know the free weight press is considered heavier, but by how much?

yungwize
September 22nd, 2004, 09:00 PM
What is the difference between a 200 pound free weight bench press and a 200 pound bench press on a weight machine. I know the free weight press is considered heavier, but by how much?

Not sure on the exact weight diff. I notice that stabilizing the free weights can be a workout in and of itself. Machines almost always do the stabilizing work for you. Freeweights make you use muscles (secondary) outside of the anticipated workout.

When I bench press to work my chest with freeweights I also feel my shoulders and triceps alot. But on the machines I really only feel it in my chest.

IMO the stabilizing factor brings more muscles into play with free weights. So I tend to stay there since I want the most bang from my workout.

jfreels
September 22nd, 2004, 09:31 PM
I was at the gym once and this guy and I got to talking and he wanted to know my routine for my chest day. When I got to "declines" he asked which machine I used. I laughed and told him to grab some dumb bells and meet me at the bench.

CASD
September 23rd, 2004, 12:02 AM
Free weights are harder.. because of the stablizing issue.. I can do more weight on the machines then I can with free weights

HobbesAB
September 23rd, 2004, 07:40 AM
I know the free weight press is considered heavier, but by how much?

this would differ from person to person. I've read that a person on free weights can use weights generally 10% higher on a machine. Is this true? I don't know since I train from home and I'm using free weights.

CASD
September 23rd, 2004, 08:18 AM
At least 10% because of the wobble factor :)
but free weights are the best because you are using muscle you'd use in everyday life..
I try to use both in my workouts .. for the same muscle group..

kmfisher
September 23rd, 2004, 10:55 AM
I would say it varies by person, for me I think it was much more than 10%. When I first started a couple years ago, I could bench 85 w/ free weights and 140 w/ a machine. That's like 60% more weight.

DeafNgari
September 23rd, 2004, 11:46 AM
Everyone is so quick to dis machines. Almost all my training is free weights, but there are things were machines are wonderful. They force you to have substanially better form. I think they are a great starting point, and for some exercise, a good thing to continue. For example, I still use the machine where you rotate your torso for my obliques.

French Spirit
September 23rd, 2004, 11:55 AM
this would differ from person to person. I've read that a person on free weights can use weights generally 10% higher on a machine. Is this true? I don't know since I train from home and I'm using free weights.
Well, consider the weights you use with barbell vs. dumbbell exercises. I can curl 75 pounds for 4-6 reps but I can't do even one 35 lb. dumbbell curl.

In terms of how much stabilizer muscles are used:

dumbell exercises > barbell exercises > machines

I think.

CASD
September 23rd, 2004, 01:43 PM
Whats funny is that my triceps are sore from the machine ..not the dumbells. I decided to use the overhead ext. machine this week for my triceps.. one armed was able to do 3 x 10 reps @ 60lbs and they sure can feel that workout.. where with the dumbells other things got tired before the triceps were.. So I agree sometimes the machine make alot of sense or mix it up like I do to get the most outta your workout..