HEY everyone I dont know if this thread has done before, well anyways are diet sodas as bad for your training as regular ones? I was thinking in having a diet soda in my cheat day :o what you guys and gals think about this?

HEY everyone I dont know if this thread has done before, well anyways are diet sodas as bad for your training as regular ones? I was thinking in having a diet soda in my cheat day :o what you guys and gals think about this?

Soda in general is bad, diet, regular, doesn't matter. Do you want that processed crap in your body? OK, if you can't live w/out soda, I suppose it is alright on your cheat day. I drink nothing but water most of the time with an occasional glass of fresh OJ for breakfast and maybe a glass of hot decaf tea every so often. But then again on cheat days, I totally go for the processed crap in chocolate. I guess I am saying yes, as long as you know what is in it and you are ok with that going into your body. :tu:

Diet, caffeine-free pepsi is my vice right now. I don't consider it a cheat and it hasn't negatively affected my progress so far (I'm doing quite well with losing fat and building muscle). The only reason I still have it is because, amongst my other awful former eating habits (and the awful eating habits still followed by the rest of the family) was some serious caffeine addiction. I found the 'free' stuff tricks my brain because I still keep my hands busy in the same way.

Just be careful not to have too much of that stuff. because acid reflux isn't fun. I'm gradually reducing it in favour of other things (like water :whistle: ).

I hadn't had a soda in about 1.5-2years. I gave it up cold turkey at one point, but just lately I've started to drink diet. I enjoy it. I drink it only in moderation (most of the time), but it is just nice to have a glass or two of something other than water and tea. I make sure not to count it as part of my fluid intake. Just make sure you still drink enough water :tucool: On an average day, I have 1+ gallons of water and maybe 2 diet sodas. Most people might say this is too much soda, but I have seen no negative effects. Sure I know it isn't super healthy, but I am living a lot healthier than I was so I think I am willing to take the risk :p

it is just nice to have a glass or two of something other than water and tea

Especially if you're drinking local tap water that has a bit more to it than just fluoride and chlorine :whistle:

I rely on diet sodas.

I hadn't had a soda in about 1.5-2years. I gave it up cold turkey at one point, but just lately I've started to drink diet. I enjoy it. I drink it only in moderation (most of the time), but it is just nice to have a glass or two of something other than water and tea. I make sure not to count it as part of my fluid intake. Just make sure you still drink enough water :tucool: On an average day, I have 1+ gallons of water and maybe 2 diet sodas. Most people might say this is too much soda, but I have seen no negative effects. Sure I know it isn't super healthy, but I am living a lot healthier than I was so I think I am willing to take the risk :p

Lucky for me I haven't had a soda in so long, I don't even know what they taste like. I gave them up when I was about 13, my first bout with weight gain (puberty sucks), I haven't had one since. I can't even imagine. But I don't drink tap water, it is filtered through the water softener first then through the fridge carbon filter. MMMMMMM much better than tap. I love water, drink about 6 32oz cups a day. So glad I don't have that vice, but like I said, I love Ice Cream and chips :spaz:

I wouldn't touch diet sodas.

The additives and chemicals are worse for you then the sugar, at least the body can deal with sugars better.
If you are going to drink sodas I would drink the ones with sugar than the ones with aspartame etc. etc


Hiit Man

You know, a lot of people preach how bad the artificial junk in diet soda is bad for us, and I can't imagine it's _healthy_ for us, but these things have been approved by the FDA (and its counterpart in most nations) for years, have undergone tons and tons of studies, and other than the extreme websites that talk about this stuff giving you a third arm (probably linked off the site that says cow milk is bad for you), there just isn't any evidence that in reasonable quantities these artificial sweeteners are bad for a person.

That was a long sentence!

You know, a lot of people preach how bad the artificial junk in diet soda is bad for us, and I can't imagine it's _healthy_ for us, but these things have been approved by the FDA (and its counterpart in most nations) for years, have undergone tons and tons of studies, and other than the extreme websites that talk about this stuff giving you a third arm (probably linked off the site that says cow milk is bad for you), there just isn't any evidence that in reasonable quantities these artificial sweeteners are bad for a person.

That was a long sentence!

I'm glad to see someone here that I agree with! So many people are freaked out about artificial sweeteners, but they do absolutely nothing in the quantities that you have in diet soda.

I have done the "just drinking water" routine, and also drinking 4-6 diet sodas a day and there has been absolutely no difference in my weight loss. The artificial sweeteners are undigestible by the body, and so just pass through and out in your waste. People get freaked out, but those are just personal biases.

Currently, I drink only a couple of diet sodas a month, but that is more from a monetary standpoint (don't want to spend the money on soda) than a nutritional standpoint. Some people say that after time your body will treat the artificial sweetener like a regular sugar, but that is just plain bogus. There is not a single scientific study in the world that has proven that. Also most of the studies that have tried to link artificial sweetener use to cancer have been shown to be inconclusive, or just plain wrong.

My $0.02.

I'm glad to see someone here that I agree with! So many people are freaked out about artificial sweeteners, but they do absolutely nothing in the quantities that you have in diet soda.

I have done the "just drinking water" routine, and also drinking 4-6 diet sodas a day and there has been absolutely no difference in my weight loss. The artificial sweeteners are undigestible by the body, and so just pass through and out in your waste. People get freaked out, but those are just personal biases.

Currently, I drink only a couple of diet sodas a month, but that is more from a monetary standpoint (don't want to spend the money on soda) than a nutritional standpoint. Some people say that after time your body will treat the artificial sweetener like a regular sugar, but that is just plain bogus. There is not a single scientific study in the world that has proven that. Also most of the studies that have tried to link artificial sweetener use to cancer have been shown to be inconclusive, or just plain wrong.

My $0.02.

I'll drink to that--NOT!!!

Some people say that after time your body will treat the artificial sweetener like a regular sugar, but that is just plain bogus. Yep, that's utter poppycock.

I won't pretend that they're good for me, and I know that water is better, but I just don't think that they're all that bad.

I'll drink to that--NOT!!!

Give me some evidence, any evidence, that aspertame, sucralose, or the other sweeteners are worse for the body than regular sugar. Otherwise it is just a personal dislike.

All sodas aren't particularly good for you sugar, diet, the lot.
I would sooner (prefer) the ingredients as natural as possible. I rather let my body deal with sugar than with artificial sweetners. It is though a preference.

Hey, some people just don't want to put "artificial stuff" in their bodies. That's their right. No reason to fault them for it. I personally don't think my 2-3 diet sodas per day will hurt me to an amount worth worrying about. There are thousands of other environmental and nutritional concerns that rank above it in danger, in my opinion.

I'm an environmental engineer, so I deal in risk of chemicals to society on a daily basis. Aspartame just doesn't even register on the screen in terms of risk/reward. In fact, I'm amazed at how many people are uninformed about what "damage" these "horrible man-made chemicals" can do to us. There are plenty of things out there that can be detrimental to your health, both natural and man-made. Don't believe everything you hear on the evening scare news.

I'm glad to see someone here that I agree with! So many people are freaked out about artificial sweeteners, but they do absolutely nothing in the quantities that you have in diet soda.


You feed a train load of anything to a rat and it's going to get some form of cancer ...

WARNING: Rant about to occur which is more that likely non-factual

If you want to eat only 'natural' ingredients don’t eat:

Beef, Chicken, pork, fish, anything farmed, vegetables that you don't know exactly how and where they were grown, ditto for fruit, beans, nuts. Don't drink tapwater and be suspicious of bottled (non-distilled) water too.
And if you think 'organic' means 'natural' then I suggest looking at what one has to do to call food 'organic'. In many cases it's not much.

Or move to a third work country and see how healthy 'natural' is.

Did you know that apple juice is cancer-causing? Yup if you give mice enough of it they will get cancer.

The fact is everything we put in our bodies can cause harm. If you drink too much distilled water (or any other liquid) it can kill you.

Minimizing damage though not going to extremes is my 2-cents. If diet soda really is the least healthy thing you consume, then fine, I could see why you'd be concerned. But if you’re eating steroid-laden meat, and toxin laden fish, and pesticide-grown veggies (or even organic stuff grown in slightly contaminated soil), then your doing what 99% of the first world are and I can’t believe a couple of diet sodas are going to make any difference.

Anyone live in a city? How many different chemicals do you think are in your bloodstream just from living in a first world, highly populated country. Of course it's probably worse populated third world counties, or if you like next to an active volcano, or in an area with naturally high levels of radiation, or if you live at altitude.

Too much oxygen can kill you.

Andrew.

WARNING: Rant about to occur which is more that likely non-factual

If you want to eat only 'natural' ingredients don’t eat:

Beef, Chicken, pork, fish, anything farmed, vegetables that you don't know exactly how and where they were grown, ditto for fruit, beans, nuts. Don't drink tapwater and be suspicious of bottled (non-distilled) water too.
And if you think 'organic' means 'natural' then I suggest looking at what one has to do to call food 'organic'. In many cases it's not much.

Or move to a third work country and see how healthy 'natural' is.

Did you know that apple juice is cancer-causing? Yup if you give mice enough of it they will get cancer.

The fact is everything we put in our bodies can cause harm. If you drink too much distilled water (or any other liquid) it can kill you.

Minimizing damage though not going to extremes is my 2-cents. If diet soda really is the least healthy thing you consume, then fine, I could see why you'd be concerned. But if you’re eating steroid-laden meat, and toxin laden fish, and pesticide-grown veggies (or even organic stuff grown in slightly contaminated soil), then your doing what 99% of the first world are and I can’t believe a couple of diet sodas are going to make any difference.

Anyone live in a city? How many different chemicals do you think are in your bloodstream just from living in a first world, highly populated country. Of course it's probably worse populated third world counties, or if you like next to an active volcano, or in an area with naturally high levels of radiation, or if you live at altitude.You're right. Pretty much everything is laden with something nasty, and when it all comes down to it our longevity still increases from year to year. Granted, much of that is medical at this point, as chronic malnutrition is not so widespread, but people need to not worry so much (or at least realize that worrying won't help, because you are nigh incapable of doing anything about it).

The whole advertising line about something being "natural" is comical. Snake poison is natural, but people will put any supplement down their throat as long as it's "Natural". Hey, when was the last time you found a packaged bottle of thermogenics out in the forest, having fallen from a thermo tree?

Hey, when was the last time you found a packaged bottle of thermogenics out in the forest, having fallen from a thermo tree?


:lol: :lol: :lol:

32oz cups

:lol:... I don't think it can be classified as a 'cup' if it holds 32 ounces :D

I think this boils down to the following: what are you more comfortable with? A) possibly knocking a few months (and I'm being liberal with that estimate, I'm sure) off of your lifespan with aspartame, or B) drinking ultra-hyper-mega-filtered water and hydroponically home-grown mulch for the rest of your life just to gain that extra bit of lifespan... wherein you can drink even more of your water and mulch until you finally die, glorious in the knowledge of your water-drinking, mulch-eating triumph?

That's not to say that there's anything wrong with choosing the straight and narrow path, of course. If you have that kind of will power, then go for it... but it's hardly less than human to want a bit of joy and comfort in our food. That sort of connection to what we consume isn't limited to food addicts, in my opinion. It's okay in moderation.

(ETA: and if anyone is curious: yes, I was contemplating the state of our lawn today.)