Afterdoing some research I see that in order to bulk and see some nice gains one must eat alotta protein............like 1-1.5 times ur body weight............my question is if u get all the protein u need and avoid fats and all other bad stuff y do u need to count cal? i kno im missin somethin important so fill me in ppl.................thx

http://forums.johnstonefitness.com/showthread.php?t=51

that was the 1st thread i read since i joined this forum so it does not have the answer to my question................ill put it another is it possible to meet your protein needs and still be deficient in terms of cals? if so what would happen???

that was the 1st thread i read since i joined this forum so it does not have the answer to my question................ill put it another is it possible to meet your protein needs and still be deficient in terms of cals? if so what would happen???
Nutritionwise, bulking has more to do with the number of calories consumed than just the amount of protein eaten. You can eat the amount of protein you're talking about and still be calorie deficient, but you will not see the kind of gains that you would if you were consuming some amount of calories over maintenance. For bulking, I'd shoot for 500-1000 calories over maintenance.

thx im assumin when u say maintenance your referring to the basal calculator from schteevie bulking for beginner's guide?

they 2250cal/day is where im @ now..........they say i should be @ 2926...........so it sounds like ur sayin i should 500-1000 over 2926 for better gains.

they 2250cal/day is where im @ now..........they say i should be @ 2926...........so it sounds like ur sayin i should 500-1000 over 2926 for better gains.
I don't quite understand your numbers there, but whatever the calculator produced as your maintenance caloric intake, you should add 500-1000 to it.

thx im assumin when u say maintenance your referring to the basal calculator from schteevie bulking for beginner's guide?

they 2250cal/day is where im @ now..........they say i should be @ 2926...........so it sounds like ur sayin i should 500-1000 over 2926 for better gains.


I would mean 500 cal over what it would take to maintain bodyweight while doing all the lifting/cardio etc.. that you are doing or going to do. Probably the best way to figure this out is to start with a guess based upon you previous exersice and weight trends and slowly increase calories untill you are gaining muscle without gaining too mauch fat. Unfortunately the first few times you bulk this truns into a bit of an experiment and can result in either more fat gains or slower muscle gains for the first couple of months. After a while you start to get tuned into your body and can figure out how much you need to eat for optimal results. Remember it takes a while to see changes in fat or muscle so average over 7-10 days before making corrections.

is it possible to meet your protein needs and still be deficient in terms of cals? if so what would happen???

if you are deficient in calories, you would be cutting and not bulking. I am bulking currently and I try to hit my protein goal, get around 15%-25% of my cals from fat and use mostly complex carbs for the rest.

Jason