View Full Version : Are Carbs bad for me?


jayc
September 16th, 2004, 09:44 PM
Hi there,

Im 18 years old. Ive been working out for a lil under a year and have transformed my body preety well over time. However, i havent really gone nuts on eliminating carbs. I'm a thin build to begin with and gaining weight was never something i was good at. I weight 155lbs currently. Are carbs only bad for heavier builds?

Would i see results faster if i ate less of them?

DeafNgari
September 16th, 2004, 09:48 PM
Hi there,

Im 18 years old. Ive been working out for a lil under a year and have transformed my body preety well over time. However, i havent really gone nuts on eliminating carbs. I'm a thin build to begin with and gaining weight was never something i was good at. I weight 155lbs currently. Are carbs only bad for heavier builds?

Would i see results faster if i ate less of them?

Start reading a lot of the info on this board and other places. Carbs are not bad for you at all. Infact, you need them to be at 100%. Carbs are you friend!!!! However that being said, the type of carbs you eat and when you eat them can be important.

karatetricker
September 16th, 2004, 10:12 PM
If that's you in your avatar, then go carb crazy. You need to eat!

Not saying this in an insulting way at all... you (would) have a great base and the only way to build the muscle is to eat the calories.

jayc
September 16th, 2004, 11:15 PM
If that's you in your avatar, then go carb crazy. You need to eat!

Not saying this in an insulting way at all... you (would) have a great base and the only way to build the muscle is to eat the calories.


yea thats me. i updated my pic because the other one was preety old. And thanks for the advice. It's just theres so much damn hype on the carbs these days. god damn media.

rtestes
September 16th, 2004, 11:38 PM
yea thats me. i updated my pic because the other one was preety old. And thanks for the advice. It's just theres so much damn hype on the carbs these days. god damn media.

You look like you are in good shape. Just keep the exercise up, you can take alot of slack on diet due to muscle base and metabolism.

One day, when you slack off on exercise and get older, you might have to watch the carb levels. Stick with what you doing, if picture tells the story..

CASD
September 17th, 2004, 12:48 AM
Yep I would your not having a carb problem yet.. as rtestes said maybe when you get older.. But by your build I'd say your one of the lucky ones that can eat alot of carbs while working out and get big!..

Iced Earth
September 17th, 2004, 01:46 AM
Well I don't want to get off on a major rant here, but I have to say I'm quite sick of the whole low-carb movement in general. Not because it isn't effective, because for SOME people it is. For others, it's not. But people are following the herd on this like it's the holy grail of diets, and that avoiding all carbs, including fruits and vegetables is the way to dietary salvation.

Amazing how you'll never find anything in the Atkins book about certain metabolic type metabolisms that actually do better on a diet with more dairy, more fruits and vegetables, and :gasp: even grains!
No no, one must eat all protein, but yet even more fat to be healthy.
If you're one of the people who feels the euphoria that Atkins says you will when you're in ketosis (I never did), then you have good reason to persue that type of diet as being compatible with your genetic makeup.

However, if you feel better with more healthy carbs and appear to get leaner when you cut down on fats, then obviously you're on to a different approach that most definitely should be considered.

Go by how YOU feel, not how someone on a message board tells you how to eat. Or for that matter, the mainstream media.

Good luck!

rtestes
September 17th, 2004, 01:59 AM
However, if you feel better with more healthy carbs and appear to get leaner when you cut down on fats, then obviously you're on to a different approach that most definitely should be considered.

Go by how YOU feel, not how someone on a message board tells you how to eat. Or for that matter, the mainstream media. Good luck!

Better yet, go by the results. This is true of diet, exercise, or you name it. Your mileage may vary, depending on the mass of variables that humans posess. Most things are opinions, we all have one.

Iced Earth
September 17th, 2004, 02:09 AM
Agreed!

RichLockyer
September 17th, 2004, 05:13 AM
Carbs is fuel.

Always remember that.

Protein is your building block.
Fat is your transport mechanism for vitamins.

Carbs don't make you fat, and fat doesn't make you fat.
Excess calories make you fat.

A proper balance makes you big :)

CASD
September 17th, 2004, 08:42 AM
So the point is..Some people are carb senitive( I am) and excess carbs make me fat.. But some people aren;t carb senitive.. Your probably not..
Alot of people become carb senitive with age.. So as everyone has said.. try one thing and see if it works if not try another
This is a great site and lots to read in the sticky's at the beginning of each subject..
Also one of the better diets is the CKD diet..

Andrew M
September 17th, 2004, 10:12 AM
Alot of people become carb senitive with age.. Do you have evidence to back this assertion up?
Also one of the better diets is the CKD diet..Messing with your carbohydrates is not the way we are designed to work. Low and no carb diets work principly by giving you a lower total calorie intake for the day. Protein is hard to eat loads of. Carbohydrates, on the other hand, slide down easily. I'd be surprised if your putting on fat with sugars was little more than eating too much, rather than some odd difference in the utilisation of sugars in you.

Andrew.

rtestes
September 17th, 2004, 12:30 PM
Do you have evidence to back this assertion up?
Low and no carb diets work principly by giving you a lower total calorie intake for the day. Andrew.

Type II diabetes until the last 30 years of world-wide obseity was a diease of old age, usually occurring past 50. It was caused by the production of ineffective insulin not being able to control blood sugar levels. Carbs are the only thing that causes the rise in blood sugar. Today we have teens with type II diabetes, something never seen before, they are wearing their bodies out quicker with stuffing themselves with carbs.

Studies have shown that even when calorie intake is higher, the restrictions of carbs in a diet caused more weight loss than a restriction in calories alone.

What ever works is good.

CASD
September 17th, 2004, 12:41 PM
Also with the CKD diet you keep your cals up with fat..
No cal restrictions here
At 205lbs.
Lean body mass of 141.8
they recommend:
185g Protein
137g Fat
20g carb
= 2050 cals..
this is based on 10cals/lbs./day
The difference between Atkins and CKD is the carb up..

jayc
September 18th, 2004, 02:06 AM
holy....u guys are fitness nutrition guru's. Thanks for all the info guys. The question has been floating about in my head for awhile, and whenever i see carb commericals, it made me feel like i was doing something wrong.

Once again thanks.

Cheers
J

CASD
September 18th, 2004, 10:03 AM
By your pic your doing fine as you are :) ..

Andrew M
September 19th, 2004, 06:30 PM
It was caused by the production of ineffective insulin not being able to control blood sugar levels. Carbs are the only thing that causes the rise in blood sugar. Type 2 diabetes is due to insulin resistance, rather than any problem with insulin itself. Those with type 2 DM can go on to develop reduced levels of insulin however, and in those circumstances may need insulin later on their treatment. This is called secondary failure of treatment. I can't remember which amino acids in particular of the 20 that can be easily converted to sugar, but a protein load which is heavy in those particular AAs can cause a rise in blood sugars.

Type 2 DM is becoming a huge problem, particularly in the oil rich Middle Eastern countries. A population who are descended from nomadic tribes have become rich, therefore sedentery and fat. As many as 50% become diabetic!!

Andrew.

Skoorb
September 19th, 2004, 07:13 PM
No, they are not bad.