I watched a program tonight that had a bit on the subwway guy Jerret. They said he use to eat 10,000 calories a day to maintain his 450 lbs. He then stopped eating breakfast had a 6" sub for lunch and a foot long veggi sub for dinner and 2 diet cokes. About 2000 calories a day. I still can't imagine eating 10,000 calories a day, for even one day.

I watched a program tonight that had a bit on the subwway guy Jerret. They said he use to eat 10,000 calories a day to maintain his 450 lbs. He then stopped eating breakfast had a 6" sub for lunch and a foot long veggi sub for dinner and 2 diet cokes. About 2000 calories a day. I still can't imagine eating 10,000 calories a day, for even one day.

Wow!! That is alot of calories, but I'm sure I probably even ate over that back in my bad eating days.... Sometimes I would eat fast food (supersize) up to 4 times a day. Add sodas throgh the day, candy, and other stuff....

I'll stop now... I hate remembering my fat days.

Junier

I still can't imagine eating 10,000 calories a day, for even one day.

It probably wasn't exclusively just from eatting. I would guess that over half of his daily consumed calories was from regular Soda, in massive extra super duper triple gulp sizes.

Check this out... http://www.subway.com/subwayroot/MenuNutrition/Jared/jaredStats.aspx

Subway, in it's disclaimer, apparently doesn't even endorse the diet, for legal reasons I'm sure. Their site is actually really good, they have very good diet information. I really have to give a big thumbs up to Subway for being one of the fast food type places that's at least really trying to promote healthy eating.

I think alot of hardcore diet people prefer more control over their food. I don't eat out anymore unless it's a cheat day or I'm with family. I just like to know exactly what I'm getting and how it's prepped.

(Biased opinion: I hate subway and everything about it. The biased part comes from working there :P )

I agree, Sake Ninja. You don't know what hidden crap they could be throwing in that makes it unhealthy.

My friend jennette told me this exact quote:

"Don't eat at subway, they feed you complete crap."

She works there, heh.

Check this out... http://www.subway.com/subwayroot/MenuNutrition/Jared/jaredStats.aspx

Subway, in it's disclaimer, apparently doesn't even endorse the diet, for legal reasons I'm sure. Their site is actually really good, they have very good diet information. I really have to give a big thumbs up to Subway for being one of the fast food type places that's at least really trying to promote healthy eating.

If I had a little more information about what they put in their bread I would probably eat there more often. I'm just concerned that it's not whole wheat, loaded with HCFS and/or PHSO. I'm always leary of eating out because of these things. Of course, I can make my own gosh darn sandwich at home and save money.

I only have subway now and again, just because of the price alone.

I could make 4 times what Subway make myself for that money.

My friend jennette told me this exact quote:

"Don't eat at subway, they feed you complete crap."

She works there, heh.
That's interesting... I believe you and all the posts about this, too, but can you elaborate on "complete crap"?

Say all you want, nothing is gonna stop me from eating my Sweet Onion Teriyaki Chicken sub! :eat:

I certainly wouldn't rely on Subway for my dietary needs, but when I'm out and have to get 'fast food' (and don't have the energy to slap something together once I get home), I get the Oven Roasted Chicken Breast on whole wheat bread, with all the veggies except for onions, olives and hot peppers, then I bring it home and put on a bit of fat free miracle whip and reduced fat cheddar cheese.

Newsflash from someone who's worked in high end restaurants as well as fast food: They pretty much all feed you crap. Certainly nothing that will kill you, though... but there's definitely some creative recycling going on in the kitchens.

subway is so over priced, also most of their "food" is crap, its mostly additives and has other evils in it
none of their bread has whole wheat in it, its all enriched, the only good bread is the honey oat simply because it has less ingredients, and any oats and honey(which they probly replace with a cheaper oat and honey subsistute) which have some nutrients!

heres the ingredients for their "wheat bread"

WHEAT BREAD Enriched flour (flour, malted barley flour, niacin, iron, thiamin mononitrate, riboflavin, folic acid), water, whole wheat flour, high fructose corn syrup, wheat gluten, contains less than 2% of the following: wheat bran, yeast, salt, soybean oil, dough conditioner (acetylated tartaric acid esters of mono-and diglycerides, ammonium sulfate, calcium sulfate, ascorbic acid, azodicarbonamide, potassium iodate, amylase (enzymes)], cracked wheat, sodium stearoyl-2-lactylate, caramel color (contains sulfites), dried honey preparation (honey powder, invert sugar, wheat starch, soy bran flour, silicon dioxide [anti-caking]), mineral oil.

there is less ingredients in a chocolate cake...

anyway, here in australia a footlong costs like $8-9, near where i goto school there is a sandwich place that will make you one BIG ARSE SANDWICH for $5.90 with tons of meat and salad, even though its more expensive than making your own sandwich, its still better than subway, and you know all the stuff is better quality, because they have better bread/meat/salads (sure they use deli cuts, but even that is better than what subway call "meat") i meat look at the ingredients for subway's "chicken breast patty"

CHICKEN BREAST PATTY Chicken breast with rib meat, water, seasoning (corn syrup solids, vinegar powder [maltodextrin, modified corn starch & tapioca starch, dried vinegar], brown sugar, salt, dextrose, garlic powder, onion powder, chicken type flavor [hydrolyzed corn gluten, autolyzed yeast extract, partially hydrogenated soybean oil and cottonseed oil, thiamine hydrochloride, disodium inosinate & disodium guanylate]), sodium phosphate. May contain: soy sauce powder [fermented soybeans, wheat, salt], lemon juice solids, dextrin, natural flavors [including smoke flavor], flavor [from partially hydrogenated cottonseed and soybean oil], partially hydrogenated soybean oil, hydrolyzed soy protein, citric acid, caramel color, vinegar solids), modified food starch, dextrose, caramel color.

even the ham has 11 ingredients....

ingredients (http://subway.com/subwayroot/MenuNutrition/Nutrition/frmUSIngredients.aspx)

by complete crap, i think my friend means very low quality foods, not the cleanest etc.. heh

by complete crap, i think my friend means very low quality foods, not the cleanest etc.. heh

Then any idea whats a decent place to out at??...i go to Souper Salad once in a while but it gets old... i cant always make something at home so there has to be a alternative..

A good "fast food" place doesn't exist. They're all gonna be loaded with crap from our standpoint because of the way they have to make the food to transport it/cook it quickly.

Cleanliness of the actual food will vary from a store to store basis, but there are better things in the grocery store that can be had for about half as much as you'd pay for a footlong sub. You arn't going to know which clown dropped your footlong earlier and slid it back on the tray claiming "5 second rule".

Extreme Pita is my go to place when I need to eat out. I'm not sure how they could do too much harm -- the pita shell is a standard pita, add a veggie mix, grilled chicken, and just a small amount of tzatziki, and you have a delicious healthy meal!

They list all the nutritional info here:
http://extremepita.com/web/DesktopDefault.aspx?tabindex=4&tabid=9&img=nutritionalguide

The biggest error there, is that their listing of stats for the condiments may be correct, but the people making the pita always put *way* more than that on.

I don't think I ever eat out anymore. Like someone else mentioned on this thread earlier, it's all about control. I need to know exactly what is entering my body, why I am putting it there, and what it's going to do. That could be borderline obsessive to some people, however I'm sure we've all worked hard to get where we are at through the same means.

I think it's amazing the quantity of horrible, detrimental foods that some people place into their bodies on a daily basis, however, it is not in my position to judge anyone - I just hope that these people will someday realize what exactly they are doing to their systems before it's too late.

The mental and physical high I get from existing in a physically fit & healthy state is irreplaceable, and is something I would never let leave me.

I don't think I ever eat out anymore. Like someone else mentioned on this thread earlier, it's all about control. I need to know exactly what is entering my body, why I am putting it there, and what it's going to do. That could be borderline obsessive to some people, however I'm sure we've all worked hard to get where we are at through the same means.

I think it's amazing the quantity of horrible, detrimental foods that some people place into their bodies on a daily basis, however, it is not in my position to judge anyone - I just hope that these people will someday realize what exactly they are doing to their systems before it's too late.

The mental and physical high I get from existing in a physically fit & healthy state is irreplaceable, and is something I would never let leave me.

IMO, I think people here are meticulous, rather than obsessive :) Obsessive is damning word..

It probably wasn't exclusively just from eatting. I would guess that over half of his daily consumed calories was from regular Soda, in massive extra super duper triple gulp sizes.
Soda contains about 40 kcals/100 g, so to get 5,000 kcals from soda alone, you would have to drink about 12.5 litres, each day. Could be possible, but it just doesn't seem right. It's far easier getting cals in other ways.

I can imagine eating 10,000 kcals in one day. It would take some getting used to now, but when I was as heaviest and strongest, I could eat 2,500 kcals in one meal. Easily.

I think it's amazing the quantity of horrible, detrimental foods that some people place into their bodies on a daily basis, however, it is not in my position to judge anyone - I just hope that these people will someday realize what exactly they are doing to their systems before it's too late.

The mental and physical high I get from existing in a physically fit & healthy state is irreplaceable, and is something I would never let leave me.

I would hardly consider what most of Subway serves "horrible and detrimental". Sure, it may not be as healthy as doing it all yourself, but let's get real here, not everyone has time to cook every single meal of every single day. As far as fast food goes, you'll be hard-pressed to find a healthier choice than Subway. End of story.

I thought I'd add to this post by saying that Jared is from Indianapolis, and he went to Indiana University. I pass "his" Subway all the time...
The reason he ate there was because its at the bottom of an apartment complex and it was the quickest place for him to eat. He only had to walk down one flight of stairs to get his Subway. Once he started eating there instead of other fast food places, he decided (since his dad is a doctor up in Indy) that it was time to get in shape. His daily excersize was to take the IU Bus as far as it would go (probably 3-5 miles allt he way to our football stadium) and then walk home.

I think its great that Jared decided to do what he did. I'm sure Subway isn't the best place to go for healthy food, but Jared's story is inspirational all the same. He didn't become "hardcore" about his diet. He didn't keep logs, he didn't hit the gym 10+times a week (I workout 11 times a week...so this isn't an exaggeration), and he didn't know anything about diet and excersize. He just knew that if he made slightly better choices and began walking that he could accomplish a more healthy lifestyle. I like his attitude. Nice job Jared, Hoosier pride!!

I would hardly consider what most of Subway serves "horrible and detrimental". Sure, it may not be as healthy as doing it all yourself, but let's get real here, not everyone has time to cook every single meal of every single day. As far as fast food goes, you'll be hard-pressed to find a healthier choice than Subway. End of story.


Yes, I bet everyone here would cook for themselves rather than eat subway. But the question is what fast food is the heathiest? IMO, Would have to be subway. Would you rather eat at burger king or Mcdonalds? I hope not! as of right now i think subway offers a pretty heathy meal for "fast food" not "homecooked meals". Anyways fast food like karatetricker said not everyone has time to cook always. If you have a choice eat a home. tuna or grilled chicken is a great meal to have! :D :drool: But if you don't i would just go to subway :)

I would hardly consider what most of Subway serves "horrible and detrimental". Sure, it may not be as healthy as doing it all yourself, but let's get real here, not everyone has time to cook every single meal of every single day. As far as fast food goes, you'll be hard-pressed to find a healthier choice than Subway. End of story.
I think you misunderstood what I said. I wasn't referring to Subway, I was referring to the food that most people in America eat on a daily basis. American society is, on average, extremely unhealthy. Of course Subway isn't "horrible and detrimental".

I am appalled at how some people that I know can shove 2 Big Macs and a large fry down their system every meal of the day because they are "too busy" to plan. This is what I was talking about, and the mentality that needs to leave; the mentality that almost everything takes priority over health, and if you begin to try and change this habit, you are considered obsessive or overtly self conscious. There is a small few of our population that practice moderation, and can control themselves... but not many.

As far as subway goes, I probably wouldn't eat there because I prefer controlling every aspect of what I eat - but - for someone like Jared, it's probably an ideal solution until he reaches his target weight. I am definitely happy that Jared made the decision to get in shape, and even more happy that it worked out for him.

Even though its advertising, and certainly a Subway promotion...I was pleased to see Subway putting out ads that showed people (esp. young people) who got in shape (whether they were actors or not...).

One such commericial is about a young guy who says he was embarrassed about his weight and got picked on, and so he started to excersize and watch what he ate. I'm glad that someone out there is sending a message to children that being overweight isn't entirely ok, and that they'll feel happier if they get in to shape! So I'll give Subway props for that...

Even though its advertising, and certainly a Subway promotion...I was pleased to see Subway putting out ads that showed people (esp. young people) who got in shape (whether they were actors or not...).

One such commericial is about a young guy who says he was embarrassed about his weight and got picked on, and so he started to excersize and watch what he ate. I'm glad that someone out there is sending a message to children that being overweight isn't entirely ok, and that they'll feel happier if they get in to shape! So I'll give Subway props for that...


I have to agree, just look there new motto "choose well" and i think they send a wonderful message in their commercial, it shows a bunch people doing some sort exercise and then it says its not just one choice its a whole lot of small choices put together "choose well"...thats a excellent message and it couldnt be more true..a friend on mine is about 20 lbs, he didnt even notice anything until i started pushing him to get in shape..and thats exactly what i told him before i saw the commercial that its small choices u make that make a big difference in the end...its sad though he is only putting in about 25% of the effort i would be if i was in his situation...i have tried to motivate him every way but he is half assin it still...anyways back to the topic, when i HAVE to eat out i find a subway and eat a 6" tuna on wheat no mayo no oil..sure it might have a lot of calories but atleast i get some good tuna intake.. :tu: Happy Labor Day!

I too really enjoy those new subway choose well commercials. My personal favorite is the one where the kid takes up swimming and it shows him having fun doing something healthy. Vlade31 I know what you mean about your friend... Even though I am not even close to my goal yet I am really wanting to motivate my younger cousin because at the rate his going at he will have some serious health problems sooner than later. He is getting really really tubby and I know how hard life will be if he doesn't stop right now and get in shape but its so hard trying to tell someone that the things they do are hurting themselves. Its also bad because his mother who I love dearly just lets him have whatever he wants and usually thats extremely fatty and unhealthy foods. Hopefully the next time I go home I will have done enough work to show him that even very little work (diet/light weight training/mild cardio) can make big changes.

- Emilio <---- wishing he had labor day off from school!!! RIT = no fun

emilio,
yea u know i am just trying to do the same thing i want him to do..then i can show him look i did this and that and now i am in shape and u can do the same...there is serious lack education when it comes to health...i am glad i found this website and i was lucky enough to catch my fat in time and keep myself in check..

One such commericial is about a young guy who says he was embarrassed about his weight and got picked on, and so he started to excersize and watch what he ate. I'm glad that someone out there is sending a message to children that being overweight isn't entirely ok, and that they'll feel happier if they get in to shape! So I'll give Subway props for that...
Yeah, but my gripe with that is that though it is not explicitly expressed, the undertones seem to suggest that subway is something that you should eat if you're watching what you eat.

Yeah, but my gripe with that is that though it is not explicitly expressed, the undertones seem to suggest that subway is something that you should eat if you're watching what you eat.

It is. Many people here seem to forget that this is an "elite" community of people who are extremely health conscious. A LARGE majority of the country doesn't even think twice about cooking every meal and counting every calorie. Thus, for the average American who has to choose between Burger King, McDonald's, Chinese Take-Out and Subway, for those looking for a healthier meal, Subway is the obvious choice.

I can imagine eating 10,000 kcals in one day. It would take some getting used to now, but when I was as heaviest and strongest, I could eat 2,500 kcals in one meal. Easily.
The problem's not the eating of 10000 kcals in one day, it's the eating of that many EVERY day.

Andrew.

Yeah, I'll take a 12" sweet onion chicken terriyaki on white bread with a double serving of cheese, lettuce, onion, tomato, mustard, mayo.. oh can you put twice that much on? Thanks. Finally some salt and pepper. Sure I'll make that a meal, I'll take the unbaked Ruffles, a Pepsi, and two cookies.

Thanks! :P

Too bad that is most people's idea of eating healthy at Subway.

Go to supermarket and get salad bar and deli meats. Go to healthy supermarket, such as Fresh Fields, Whole Foods, get prepared foods for the week and keep in Fridge, drop in on an unplanned day pick-up a ready made sandwich, sushi, soup, salad bar, prepared foods, heat in microwave, eat right there or carry out. Much healthier than fast food and just as fast.

All food at places like Whole Foods is nutritious, tends to be organic, certainly no harmful sprays, focuses on low carb, low fat, sugar free--whatever your pleasure.

Buy frozen meals from Whole foods or your local organic natural foods stores. Plenty of healthy chocies for meals whatever your particular program. Fill your freezer, take one for luch and microwave at school or office. In the long run, cheaper and healthier than fast foods though more expensive than normal supermarkets.

But after a lot of struggle, I have worked a schedule where I shop once a week (at Whole foods) on Saturday, pick-up lunch there, prepare my food for the week on Sunday (a week's worth of salads for lunch, cook meats for salad, buy tuna salad for lunch with salad, buy organic dressing, all flavors, prepare 6 little plastic containers with dressing to go with salads, cook vegetable mixture that will go for 6 dinner meals (red pepper, onions, mushrooms, snow peas and a prepared (bought) homade sauce as base and add one green vegetable for the week: broccolii one week, green beans another, asparagus a third, etc.) put everything in individual containers, so ready to go each day. The only thing I do not prepare in advance is the meat or fish I am going to eat for dinner (but I do for the two nights I have to pack in dinner as well as lunch in to work) and I make breakfast fresh every morning. Have 3 choices of breakfast--what ever I am in the mood for that morning: organic sausage (lamb, pork or chicken) and low carb fruit and 1/2 banana, 2 eggs fried or boiled and low carb fruit and 1/2 banana, 2oz lox (actually I prefer smoked steel head trout, tastes similar to lox) 2 Tbls 3 onion cream cheese (prepared fresh by Whole Foods) over slices of cucumber and tomato with a 1 Tbls of Newmans own Oil and Vinegar dressing. I usually add an ATW water shake to that meal to up the protein. At night I eat LF cottage cheese mixed with ATW & cinnimon(until I get milk isolate.)

I rarely eat out now except on cheat days and then I get something I really love (chocolate dessert for me :p ). I spend 2 hours preparing shopping list and shoping each week, 2 1/2 hour preparing food for the week and 20 minutes each night for dinner and 20 minutes preparing breakfast. Almost everything I eat is organic and fresh, everything pre-prepared by store is fresh with no preservatives etc. Minimal time and I love the food.

That beats eating out every time. I used to do Subway but I found over time I gained weight (perhaps due to my age). Low carb Angus burger at Burger king was not much better (low carb meant they served it to you in a dish with no bun.)

"Fail to plan and plan to fail" but it took a lot of investment of time and experimenting inititally to figure out what routine worked for me and my schedule and my tastes both for eating and preparing.

Then any idea whats a decent place to out at??...i go to Souper Salad once in a while but it gets old... i cant always make something at home so there has to be a alternative..

The best places to eat out at are mom and pop restaurants. Chain restaurants all have the same basic problems.

The more food you serve, the more incentive you have to adopt cost-cutting measures in preparing your food (i.e. using more processed stuff, High Fructose Corn Syrup, Partially Hydrogenated Soybean oil, artificial garbage, lots of sugar to mask the nasty tang of your grade D meat, etc.). You're never going to find too many natural ingredients in a restaurant with more than five locations. It's bad for business.

But if you only have one location and don't serve multiple markets or a massive quantity of food, then retaining customers, not cutting costs, becomes a more profitable priority. You have less of an incentive to make all your food out of processed crap (after all, people can get that anywhere, and for cheaper than you can possibly provide it if you aren't a large corporate chain with monopolistic connections to agribusiness). There are still tons and tons of very unhealthy restaurants, and eating out and eating healthy really aren't compatible, but you're much more likely to find something clean on the menu in a pinch at Grandma Maria's Rice and Beans than at Applebee's - especially if you do your research and can figure out when a restaurant is lying to you about what's in their food

(I used to work at an Applebee's, and I felt bad for all the people who thought the Oriental Chicken Salad was good for them just because the Riblets Platter could give a horse a coronary.)

Small restaurants don't have marketing departments and have less of an essential interest in lying to you. They're also really good for the local economy. Go to the mom and pop places when you go out, not the chains.