So, how come she has a vertical belly button and people that workout a lot have a horizontal one? Did she do a lot of stretches to get that vertical effect? :spaz:
http://img224.imageshack.us/img224/7440/vida7du.jpg

So, how come she has a vertical belly button and people that workout a lot have a horizontal one? Did she do a lot of stretches to get that vertical effect? :spaz:

I think it's just how it heals. Mine is vertical and always has been whether perfectly in shape or not. I think that's pretty common.

Erm. . that is, of course, if this was a serious question and not an inside joke I'm not getting. . . :confused:

Breaking news: whO's mom is a MILF :lol:

Agreed! wh0's mom is HOT!! :D

http://img224.imageshack.us/img224/7440/vida7du.jpg


hahahaha

Why is he wearing a bikini top? :confused:



You're out of your f@cking mind. That's as hot as it gets!!!!!:drool:

Wh0, your girl might have a nicely shaped butt....BUT Alizee knows how to use hers. Google video has some nice vids of her.


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Wh0, your girl might have a nicely shaped butt....BUT Alizee knows how to use hers. Google video has some nice vids of her.

Definately, I love that video....:)

You're out of your f@cking mind. That's as hot as it gets!!!!!:drool:

I agree with Kilter -- looks like a dude.

I agree with Kilter -- looks like a dude.

Oh well...looks like i've "switched" sides.:eek:

Oh well...looks like i've "switched" sides.:eek:

I had a smart alek reply for that... but uh...the post gods bombed it.:doh:

So therefore....I will just say it with smileys:

http://www.elite-charms.com/images/products_images/11P014W00000006-S.jpg :lol:

I had a smart alek reply for that... but uh...the post gods bombed it.:doh:

So therefore....I will just say it with smileys:

http://www.elite-charms.com/images/products_images/11P014W00000006-S.jpg :lol:



:lol: :lol: :lol: Not quite.(not that there's anything wrong with that)

Holy Crap!!! Who, who is that? She's legendary. We're talking one of the greatest of all time. Do you know her name?

Holy Crap!!! Who, who is that? She's legendary. We're talking one of the greatest of all time. Do you know her name?
Who? Vida Guerra?

Who? Vida Guerra?

"War Life"?:confused:

"War Life"?:confused:
I don't know if that translates, but it sure will bring up some nice hits on Google: http://images.google.com/images?q=vida+guerra

:whistle:

Vida Guerra. Man!!! She is smokin' hot!! Ive never seen or heard of her before.

Vida Guerra. Man!!! She is smokin' hot!! Ive never seen or heard of her before.
:eek: You dont get out on the net much do you? :lol:

I don't know if that translates, but it sure will bring up some nice hits on Google: http://images.google.com/images?q=vida+guerra

:whistle:

:doh: Im at work...







Yeah, I clicked it.

Something looks weird about that picture. Great legs, awesome arms and shoulders, but he looks off balance.
I've never seen a guy with a waist that's too small until now.

Did someone say "small waist"? :D

http://www.skippypodar.net/WebGallery/Skip-Miscellaneous/skip-06192004-pumpup-st.jpg

http://www.skippypodar.net/WebGallery/Skip-Miscellaneous/skip-rls-07252004.jpg

- Skip :)

Never cared much about developing legs but this guy is inspiring to me. Unfortunately, genetics play a lot here.

Matt ??:
http://www.geocities.com/mmarkmarks/mattwaterfalls.jpg http://www.geocities.com/mmarkmarks/mattfull.jpg http://www.geocities.com/mmarkmarks/mattshoulders.jpg

His name isn't Matt. It's Ronan. He's from Ireland and is one of the models that Pat Lee has photographed.

http://www.axiusphotography.com

I wouldn't mind looking like him at my next competition.

- Skip :)

His name isn't Matt. It's Ronan. He's from Ireland and is one of the models that Pat Lee has photographed.

http://www.axiusphotography.com

I wouldn't mind looking like him at my next competition.

- Skip :)
skip - any recent pics?

His name isn't Matt. It's Ronan. He's from Ireland and is one of the models that Pat Lee has photographed.

http://www.axiusphotography.com

I wouldn't mind looking like him at my next competition.

- Skip :)
Holy Moly!! Fantastic pictures. Every single person on those galleries should be here in this thread.

Holy Moly!! Fantastic pictures. Every single person on those galleries should be here in this thread.

I don't agree. It might be genetics, but I think too many of them have round boobs, making them look feminine. There's a point where getting bigger makes muscles look worse instead of better, imho.

I don't agree. It might be genetics, but I think too many of them have round boobs, making them look feminine. There's a point where getting bigger makes muscles look worse instead of better, imho.

No way those guys are too big, they look solid.

I don't agree. It might be genetics, but I think too many of them have round boobs, making them look feminine. There's a point where getting bigger makes muscles look worse instead of better, imho.
round boobs? I didn't see that. They are fairly gay pictures (not that there's anything wrong with that) but n0ne of them are overmuscled.

Look here (http://www.axiusphotography.com/gallery/gallery-tn-off.asp?CollectionID=2&index=22) and here (http://www.axiusphotography.com/gallery/gallery-tn-off.asp?CollectionID=2&index=17).

It's probably me, or the lighting in the photographs, but to me it looks like these guys are lactating. ;)


We do agree on good freefighters, though. Fedor is da MAN!

Just reproduce the part of the picture that's revelant. They're sliced up like that in order that the images are not easily stolen from the website. You should not reproduce the entire image on here.

This is probably the case with other images in the PBG but here we know the explicit source so it would be best to respect the website's wishes.

http://www.ironage.us/Ironage_Scans/Arnold_Schwarzenegger_-_Side_Chest.jpg

Seriously, Arnolds chest is just :spaz: :spaz: :spaz:
Like they are going to explode any second!

Just reproduce the part of the picture that's revelant. They're sliced up like that in order that the images are not easily stolen from the website. You should not reproduce the entire image on here.

You're absolutely right.

Here are the cutouts:

You're absolutely right.

Here are the cutouts:
OK somewhat boobilicious but I wouldn't mind having pecs like that.

Yah. Maybe they should have put cold water on the nipples first or something. Soft nipples are mainly the culprit, IMO. :doh: I agree those look slightly vaguely like breasts.

This would be my preferred physique.

This would be my preferred physique.
what's up with your bro? where gerald at?

OK somewhat boobilicious but I wouldn't mind having pecs like that.
Yah. Maybe they should have put cold water on the nipples first or something. Soft nipples are mainly the culprit, IMO. I agree those look slightly vaguely like breasts.

Phew, I thought it was me! :D I have to admit I'm a bit sensitive on this subject because a female friend calls me 'Pamela' because I already have bigger breasts than her. :lol: My pecs look nothing like these two, fortunately. I've noticed that most women around me hardly notice the pectorial muscles. They can find someone attractive and totally ignore the lack of that area.

Here are the cutouts:

If you are going to pick and choose, here are my picks. They don't look like breasts to me...

http://pic4.picturetrail.com/VOL722/4151889/8671632/128900641.jpg http://pic4.picturetrail.com/VOL722/4151889/8671632/128900637.jpg http://pic4.picturetrail.com/VOL722/4151889/8671632/128900640.jpg http://pic4.picturetrail.com/VOL722/4151889/8671632/128900639.jpg http://pic4.picturetrail.com/VOL722/4151889/8671632/128900638.jpg

If you are going to pick and choose, here are my picks. They don't look like breasts to me...

I didn't claim that 'Every single person on those galleries should be here in this thread.'. I disagreed, and gave arguments why. I agree with you on these guys, they look great. :tu:

If you are going to pick and choose, here are my picks. They don't look like breasts to me...

http://pic4.picturetrail.com/VOL722/4151889/8671632/128900641.jpg
Jesus... i have to get back to bulking asap! :eek:

I didn't claim that 'Every single person on those galleries should be here in this thread.'. I disagreed, and gave arguments why. I agree with you on these guys, they look great. :tu:Got your point. We agree to disagree.

Here it is what I would like to look like - nothing more. Let's say this is my ultimate inspiration. This is something that I think I could be close to accomplish if I did everything right from diet to exercise:

http://pic4.picturetrail.com/VOL722/4151889/8671632/128769580.jpg http://pic4.picturetrail.com/VOL722/4151889/8671632/128908322.jpg

weak

Here it is what I would like to look like - nothing more. Let's say this is my ultimate inspiration. This is something that I think I could be close to accomplish if I did everything right from diet to exercise

Wahlberg looks great, he was my inspiration before I ran into Ryan Reynolds. :D

weakI wanna be weak like that! That's all I want. I just hope it's possible. I don't want to be weak the way I am. I wanna be weak like Wahlberg. I'd be a happy camper.
:jumping: :D

:rolleyes:

http://pic4.picturetrail.com/VOL722/4151889/8671632/128769576.jpg
http://pic4.picturetrail.com/VOL722/4151889/8671632/128912006.jpg http://pic4.picturetrail.com/VOL722/4151889/8671632/128912005.jpg http://pic4.picturetrail.com/VOL722/4151889/8671632/128772017.jpg

Nah, if you wanna do it, do it with class. Her a$$ is too big.

http://pic4.picturetrail.com/VOL722/4151889/8671632/128913015.jpg

Nico - Gerald gave up on his program. I'm hoping he'll start up again. My passion for SOBF waned when that happened. But I'm going to finish it anyways, maybe he'll start up again.

Kilter - yep, Wahlberg's physique is what I'm after too. Nothing bigger - that's what I want! :tucool:

Nico - Gerald gave up on his program. I'm hoping he'll start up again. My passion for SOBF waned when that happened. But I'm going to finish it anyways, maybe he'll start up again.

Kilter - yep, Wahlberg's physique is what I'm after too. Nothing bigger - that's what I want! :tucool:

Too bad your bro quit on it. Tell him to read his posts over again. Maybe it will remind him why he was trying to change.

weak

Look at this guy...

Edit: pics are chopped up =/..posted links.

http://www.axiusphotography.com/gallery/gallery-tn-off.asp?CollectionID=1&index=5
http://www.axiusphotography.com/gallery/gallery-tn-off.asp?CollectionID=1&index=22

http://www.axiusphotography.com/assets/images/portfolio/slices/0311B-381-05.jpg

http://www.axiusphotography.com/assets/images/portfolio/slices/0311B-522-03.jpg

Hmmmm...

http://pic4.picturetrail.com/VOL722/4151889/8671632/128912005.jpg

Hmmmm...

http://pic4.picturetrail.com/VOL722/4151889/8671632/128912005.jpg
where'd you find the second pic?

Hmmmm...

http://pic4.picturetrail.com/VOL722/4151889/8671632/128912005.jpg
haha, wow. I've been using the 2nd pic as a "goal" for years. It's been passed around the net for a long time.

haha, wow. I've been using the 2nd pic as a "goal" for years. It's been passed around the net for a long time.
Other than your traps being bigger, I don't see a big difference. Put on some baggy jeans, and hike them up in the crotch, then you can be triplets.;)

Other than your traps being bigger, I don't see a big difference. Put on some baggy jeans, and hike them up in the crotch, then you can be triplets.;)
The pictures I post of myself must not look the same on all your monitors as it does mine. :confused:

But thanks for the compliment! :D

I've been studying the pictures of those two guys. The belt is exactly the same. The way the folds fall in the jeans is exactly the same. It looks like the watch might be a little different, and the jeans don't look the same color.

And the photo is called "my goal" so maybe it's the same body, just with a different head photoshopped on.

Perhaps I will blow them up to indentical size for a more thorough side-by-side investigation.

And the photo is called "my goal" so maybe it's the same body, just with a different head photoshopped on.

Maybe I posted the pic a long time ago (I think I did) and he saved it from that, because I have the exact same picture saved as "my goal.jpg" on my PC, because I renamed it that a very long time ago.

Maybe I posted the pic a long time ago (I think I did) and he saved it from that, because I have the exact same picture saved as "my goal.jpg" on my PC, because I renamed it that a very long time ago.
I bet you're right.

Okay, here's my ananlysis: It's the same guy; different head. The coloring and contrast is different, but note how even the background greens match up.

LOL, it's the same picture folks. :)

Of course the second is fake. Somebody wanted to have that body as a goal and replaced Mark's head with their own - probably using Photoshop. This is kind of a signature pose for Mark Wahlberg.
You might notice, in the second picture, the head is slightly disproportionally bigger for the body - giving the illusion the head is closer than the body. I love this stuff. If you want, I can do that with your head. Just ask me. ;)

What about this?

http://pic4.picturetrail.com/VOL722/4151889/8671632/129087786.jpg

haha, wow. I've been using the 2nd pic as a "goal" for years. It's been passed around the net for a long time.

That's funny - it's been my goal too. I must've downloaded it from one of your posts and put it in my Inspiration folder. It's clear when I posted it that the second was a photoshopped image, but it's very well done. Whoever did that one had mad skillz. Kilter - yours is good (and I love Jake Gyllenhaal, but it screams Photoshop. I never knew my "goal pic" was a Photoshopped image until I saw the Mark Wahlberg photo posted a few days ago in this thread... :doh:

Hmmmm...

http://pic4.picturetrail.com/VOL722/4151889/8671632/128912005.jpg
guys its pretty obvious to me the second one is the fake picture

look at how big the head is proportionate to the body, take a couple seconds to concentrate on it

Edit: it disappeared.

As my sister says, Matthew McconaHEEEEEEEY

http://www.justkeeplivin.org/McConaughey/photodata//magscans/640/PEOPLE100404.jpg

Two puns for the price of one! :D

http://img47.imageshack.us/img47/2964/supeyman5vs.th.jpg (http://img47.imageshack.us/my.php?image=supeyman5vs.jpg)

you dont need muscles when you can cheat, like this guy.

http://img47.imageshack.us/img47/2964/supeyman5vs.th.jpg (http://img47.imageshack.us/my.php?image=supeyman5vs.jpg)

you dont need muscles when you can cheat, like this guy.

How is he cheating? Those muscles aren't shaded in, like in Spiderman's outfit. Those are all him... which is really impressive since they come out through the cloth.

http://img47.imageshack.us/img47/2964/supeyman5vs.th.jpg (http://img47.imageshack.us/my.php?image=supeyman5vs.jpg)

you dont need muscles when you can cheat, like this guy.
I don't think he cheats.. ask his uncle who's on SGX/SUP2 ;)

I don't think he cheats.. ask his uncle who's on SGX/SUP2 ;)


of course he cheats.

nobody lifts cars, trucks, and moves immovable objects with muscles that small. you'd need incredible hulk muscles.

he uses his special powers.

I should have gone to Florida State!

I should have gone to Florida State!

Why? I doubt they were there when you would have been. ;)

Why? I doubt they were there when you would have been. ;)

good point...How about now, for post grad studies?

:)

good point...How about now, for post grad studies?

:)

Those girls (well, 2 of them specifically - one of them being the one in the cowboy hat) are getting a lot of attention nowadays. They'll be in this months Maxim and in the May issue of Playboy.

Those girls (well, 2 of them specifically - one of them being the one in the cowboy hat) are getting a lot of attention nowadays. They'll be in this months Maxim and in the May issue of Playboy.

yes they are...

good point...How about now, for post grad studies?

:)

yeah, we all know what you would be "Studying". Too bad they dont have a degree in that field ;)

or.....

:eek:

I surely didn't go to the UCF football games to watch ... football, if you could even call it that back when I was in school... even when Daunte was playing for us. We went for the partying and the eye candy.

Damn, you guys... get some wetnaps and clean yourselves up. :rolleyes: John's going to have to rename it "the porno thread" if the trend continues.

-R

:eek:
Her face is ugly.

http://www.americasbestonline.net/Cheer.jpg

Too f :evil: :eek: king funny! I think this thread has officially jump the shark.

or.....

[innocent mode]

I guess she must have slipped when getting the morning mail. That kind of thing doesn't happen in England because mail gets delivered straight to the door. Much less embarrassing.

We can only hope she got up quickly before the sprinklers came on and she got all wet.

[/innocent mode]

[innocent mode]



We can only hope she got up quickly before the sprinklers came on and she got all wet.

[/innocent mode]

LOL :D

I watched the show Dancing with the Stars the other night (don't ask me why) and the next day I spotted the long legged blonde on the cover of Stuff magazine. I didn't know she was a WWE wrestler, but she has some awesome abs and legs for miles. Opinions?

Woah :eek:

I found this pic on militaryphotos.net, its a pic of an Australian Special Air Service Regiment trooper (which is where I want to get WAY down the track, still training :D )

http://img313.imageshack.us/img313/9156/sasr35eq.jpg

Now im pretty sure he could be considered to have a perfect body, not in the ways of "perfect definition" or "ripped to the max" like a bodybuilder or anything, but I can damn well put my money on it that he could do WAY more pushups or pullups than any perfect bodybuilder, you can tell hes not huge from the size of his arms side on (his left arm) that is my ultimate goal of a physic, im more worried about the strength rather then how I look.

Heres another pic of him with a lion cub at the allied camp areas, ofcourse the lion was still a cub and is playing around.

http://img311.imageshack.us/img311/6021/sasr47xp.jpg

And just to show that they dont always take their shirts off during deployment, a trooper during patrol. :lol:

http://img418.imageshack.us/img418/3868/sasr11cg.jpg

The pics are from Somalia during the early 90's around the time when the incident of Mogadishu happened (think Black Hawk Down) also the movie doesnt say, but along with the Rangers and Delta Force troops, there was also a US Navy SEAL and an Australian SASR troop there.

Special Ops' job such as SEALS is to stay in extremely fit condition day in and day out for the missions they may be asked to perform. I believe you have to be in excellent condition to even make it as a team member.

Yes I know, and I am currently training very hard in order to get back to where I was before my hault in training began.

I was doing a max of about 45 pushups, 100 situps and 6 pullups at 85kg bodyweight back then, also I was running 2.4km in about 16 minutes, fair effort.

Once I reach those again, I will aim higher, because these are the standards for the basic Battle Fitness Test (BFT) within the Australian Defence Force. (ADF)

Male
under 21 - 50 pushups, 75 situps, 10:48 for the 2.4km run
21-25 - 40 pushups, 70 situps, 11:18 for the 2.4km run
26-30 - 35 pushups, 65 situps, 11.48 for the 2.4km run
31-35 - 30 pushups, 57 situps, 12.18 for the 2.4km run
36-40 - 25 pushups, 50 situps, 12.42 for the 2.4km run
41-45 - 20 pushups, 30 situps, 13.12 for the 2.4km run
46-50 - 10 pushups, 20 situps, 13.48 for the 2.4km run
51+ - 6 pushups, 15 situps, 14.30 for the 2.4km run

Female
under 21 - 25 pushups, 75 situps, 12:27 for the 2.4km run
21-25 - 21 pushups, 70 situps, 13:30 for the 2.4km run
26-30 - 18 pushups, 65 situps, 14.18 for the 2.4km run
31-35 - 15 pushups, 57 situps, 15.12 for the 2.4km run
36-40 - 10 pushups, 50 situps, 16.06 for the 2.4km run
41-45 - 7 pushups, 30 situps, 16.54 for the 2.4km run
46-50 - 3 pushups, 20 situps, 17.42 for the 2.4km run
51+ - 3 pushups, 15 situps, 18.48 for the 2.4km run

And I know its not hard to get to that stage, I was basicly almost there, it will take me about a couple months of training to surpass it again.

But then! lol I have the Australian Special Forces "barrier test" fitness to look foward to, not even the SEALs have a barrier test, they just go straight to BUD/s and either pass or fail, where is with out SF units, they must have a test before they can go and do the actual selection test...

Here are the MINIMUM standards for special forces barrier testing in the ADF (and most guys who try out can already do like 2 times as much)

60 Pushups
100 Situps
10 Heaves
2.4km Run (Patrol Order 7kg/ Runners) 11.30 min
Run-Jump-Dodge test (Patrol order) 50 sec
Swim 400m (DPCU & Runners) 18 min
Tread water 2 min
15km Endurance march (21kg Pack, 7kg Webbing, rifle) 2hrs 20 min

Application process
1. CO/OC approval
2. Unit clerk to book SF med board
3. Psych test for service in Special Forces

Thats the easy way of explaining things, but if you would like to read the detailed version of what goes on during the barrier testing, here it is.

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DAY 1 - Roll Call/Check Documentation (Psych/Medical etc)
- B.F.A (2.4km run, BFA Sit Up test -100 pass and 5 docked for every time poor form was shown, Push ups - 80 pass)
- Heave Test (overgrasp/undergrasp/alternate -12 pass, no flicks, 'rooting in the air'-pelvic thrusts etc....And they were strict on the form!!!)
-BREAKFAST
-Nav Test/Comms Test/Med. Test (Written
-LUNCH
-3.2km Battle run 7kgs Webbing + rifle (16:30 &under for Commandos, under 16 for SASR)
-NAVIGATION EXERCISE
-400mtr swim test in Clean Fatigues after 2 min tread water (total time 18 minute)
-Rope ascent/decent in patrol order +rifle. To be completed twice up and down 30ft rope without touching feet on ground on first decent.
-Comms practical test
-Assimilation of instruction test (foreign weapons)
-Medical practical Test
-Impromptu public speech on nominated topic/Essay writing/Group problem solving
- Possibly finishing around 0200hrs on the second day after a 0730 start.

DAY 2-Reveille approx. 0400hrs (2 hours sleep)
- 0415 embuss trucks to 28km endurance march start point.
-0430 Form up/stretches with PTI's
-approx. 0445 commence 4hr/28km endurance march (minimum 24km)
-approx. 0930 all personnell picked up by trucks and taken to start points for Exercise 'Resolute Warrior'
- Approx 1000hrs commence first of 3 x 3hr group stands (activities)
-Approx 2100hrs activity ceased, return to transit lines to deservice and treat injuries etc...get some sleep, and have FIRST meal for the day.

DAY 3- Approx 0700 Reveille
- BREAKFAST
- 0800 Begin rolling course candidates through Board of Studies (BOS). For those who have not experienced this, it usually involved three officers, usually Captain/Majors or perhaps Lt. Col, as well as 2 or 3 SNCO's, WO2/WO1, who spent approx. 20-30 minutes grilling you on your personal evaluation on how you peformed on the course, what you felt were your strengths/weaknesses, how you rated other course candidates etc....And the obligatory question of 'and what makes you think you would be a good asset to the SF group' or similar wording.

By this stage you were shagged and usually had your entire arse cheeks chaffed away, or painful hot-spots or blisters on you feet, and were thinking about a Big Mac, Super Supreme etc.... And bear in mind, this was only the first step, IF you were succesful you had the SASR selection course to look forward to (if you were deemed suitable after the BOS), or the CBTC/CSTC/CTC or whatever the Commando Training Wing were calling their equivalent at the time. Or if you were unlucky enough to be deemed not suitable, you had to walk away from that empty handed.
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Thats the stuff you do BEFORE you actually go off and do 3 weeks of selection for the Commando's, or 6 weeks for SASR (then you go on and do like a whole 12 months of training before your qualified)

Im opting to try for 4RAR Cdo (commmandos) after about 2-3 years of service within Infantry, because most candidates who try for SASR are atleast 25 years of age (because they are looking for people with experience)

Exactly why do I want to do it?....I cant answer it just yet, all I know is that its what I want more than anything, and the fact that through my whole life, I have always wanted to be the best at everything I do, challenging myself and my lifestyles, and I know that if my goals are set, if I work hard enough then I will get there eventually :)

Well here's some new inspiration for me:-

http://img164.imageshack.us/img164/2411/ronny9nc.th.jpg (http://img164.imageshack.us/my.php?image=ronny9nc.jpg)

Arms need to be a bit bigger though!

Sorry if this one has been posted previously.

12327

Not the most massive example.....but impressive none-the-less.

Edward Norton (usually skinny lean little thing) put on 30lbs of muscle for his part in American History X. I reckon he looks great, and I would love to have a body like this, also the personal trainer that helped him get it as well.

Cheers

If I had to put on 30 lbs of muscle fast to get paid about 10 million dollars for a movie part, i'll tell you what I would do.... :whistle:

If I had to put on 30 lbs of muscle fast to get paid about 10 million dollars for a movie part, i'll tell you what I would do.... :whistle:Yeah, me too. I'm against gear for the average joe but if there was a huge pay day coming my way because of it, hells yeah! I could use some of the profit to buy organs on the black market for later, when I need them.

Yeah, me too. I'm against gear for the average joe but if there was a huge pay day coming my way because of it, hells yeah! I could use some of the profit to buy organs on the black market for later, when I need them.
Not to mention the fact I would probably hire a team of doctors to make sure i'm covering all my bases as far as safety is concerned.
Of course, no one is saying that's what he did... but... I'm 95% sure he did.

I remember back when I first saw that movie, I was shocked. I didn't think that was really him so I actually got online and started researching to find out if they used a body double somehow.

Not to mention the fact I would probably hire a team of doctors to make sure i'm covering all my bases as far as safety is concerned.
Of course, no one is saying that's what he did... but... I'm 95% sure he did.
This comment will become irrelevant soon, but that is the greatest avatar ever.

Britt Miller -- Face not included for a reason

Britt Miller
She's 5'4" tall, nearly 170 pounds and her biceps are 15 inches.:eek:

She's 5'4" tall, nearly 170 pounds and her biceps are 15 inches.:eek:

Holy crap...that is huge...

I love that picture of Britt on the right.

If I had to put on 30 lbs of muscle fast to get paid about 10 million dollars for a movie part, i'll tell you what I would do.... :whistle:

Edward Norton is quoted saying that after the movie came out Arnie called him and asked him if he'd juiced, tongue in cheek? EN claims a high protein diet and 24/7 training (for about 3 months I recall) did the job.

Britt Miller -- Face not included for a reason
http://pic4.picturetrail.com/VOL722/4151889/8671632/131967055.jpg
"Where did it go?" ...whatever she is looking for here, it's not there anymore... :eek:

"Where did it go?" ...whatever she is looking for here, it's not there anymore... :eek:Yeah, that's just a guy without his equipment; nasty as all get out.

Not to mention the fact I would probably hire a team of doctors to make sure i'm covering all my bases as far as safety is concerned.
Of course, no one is saying that's what he did... but... I'm 95% sure he did.

come on now, how do we know he didn't spend a year bulking and cutting? He certainly doesn't look massive by any means, and he seems like a real legit guy. He wasn't big by any means, so maybe that 30 pounds is a bit of a stretch. As far as I know, he is not too tall, and you'd think a normal person adding 30 pounds of muscle would look bigger than that, especially considering how he just looks more defined than in all his other movies, not 30 pounds larger.

This chick sure makes me bar up.

http://www.christinalindley.net/images/portfolio/fit-swim/012.jpg

come on now, how do we know he didn't spend a year bulking and cutting? He certainly doesn't look massive by any means, and he seems like a real legit guy. He wasn't big by any means, so maybe that 30 pounds is a bit of a stretch. As far as I know, he is not too tall, and you'd think a normal person adding 30 pounds of muscle would look bigger than that, especially considering how he just looks more defined than in all his other movies, not 30 pounds larger.

Because he flat-out said he did it in 3 months. I have no idea whether he juiced or not.....but honestly, if he did, I wouldn't blame him. I'm against juicing, but if I had to do it for a coupla months in return for a multi-million dollar paycheck, I'd do it in a heartbeat.

Britt Miller -- Face not included for a reason


pretty nice! but damn, thats good enough for a man!


adam

I should have gone to Florida State!

Like it would've made a difference? :D

*duck*

Just kidding, don't hurt me. :D

- Skip :)

Hey guys just want to see if any one has seen tyler on youtube, his body is unbelivable. http://www.youtube.com/profile?user=thisfooltyler

Hey guys just want to see if any one has seen tyler on youtube, his body is unbelivable. http://www.youtube.com/profile?user=thisfooltylerIt certainly is amazing. I've read some comments about him that must be just belonging to jealous people. Do you think he is on steroids? Is it possible to get a body like this without steroids? Are there any signs on somebody's body that indicate they are taking steroids?

It certainly is amazing. I've read some comments about him that must be just belonging to jealous people. Do you think he is on steroids? Is it possible to get a body like this without steroids? Are there any signs on somebody's body that indicate they are taking steroids?


Of course, there are always haters. His physique is attainable without supplements like roids for sure...just hard hard consistent work and good diet.

On that note, any mention anywhere you could see about his nutrition?

On that note, any mention anywhere you could see about his nutrition?I would try google thisfooltyler.

Of course, there are always haters. His physique is attainable without supplements like roids for sure...just hard hard consistent work and good diet.

On that note, any mention anywhere you could see about his nutrition?
i think he has a yahoo group now, and a myspace page too(i lost that link though). i sure he would answer question on one of them.

i think he has a yahoo group now, and a myspace page too(i lost that link though). i sure he would answer question on one of them.His name is Tyler Southwick.
http://www.myspace.com/tylersouthwick

thanks

Ok, I figured I'd throw in my 2 cents here. I'm definitely interested in getting big. Part of that is because I loved Conan and those kind of movies as a kid, and thus developed an affinity for that aesthetic, but also because my frame is such that I need a certain amount of size in order to look proportionate.

Surge Nubret and Bob Paris have long been the physiques I've really aimed for long-term. While I love Arnold to death, there's a certain symmetry and shape that he lacks compared to those two guys. I also threw in a photo that I believe is of Mike Mentzer ( I reserve the right to be wrong, though), whom I think has awesome overall shape and development while still being pretty darn big.

And here's Bob Paris:

Edit: Ok, apparently I have "too many attachments." What gives?

This chick sure makes me bar up.

http://www.christinalindley.net/images/portfolio/fit-swim/012.jpg

what's her number?

i wanna see that in real life. :tu:

i personally wouldnt mind looking like jennifer garner

It certainly is amazing. I've read some comments about him that must be just belonging to jealous people. Do you think he is on steroids? Is it possible to get a body like this without steroids? Are there any signs on somebody's body that indicate they are taking steroids?

With your questions on steroids I was expecting to see a monster. This is just a well trained body. Check out a high level turning academy and you'll see lots of bodies like this, and more impressive.

With your questions on steroids I was expecting to see a monster. This is just a well trained body. Check out a high level turning academy and you'll see lots of bodies like this, and more impressive.The gym I go does have the super developed guys but I can never be sure if steroids are involved. I don't really care. I just want to know if I can ever get to that point (Tyler's) without taking any harmful chemicals myself.

The gym I go does have the super developed guys but I can never be sure if steroids are involved. I don't really care. I just want to know if I can ever get to that point (Tyler's) without taking any harmful chemicals myself.

Sure! Of course, you may see variation on how different bodies will turn out different with more muscle. Some people just have better proportions than others. Tyler's level of fitness is 'easily' attainable without steroids, meaning: you'll have to work your ass off and eat well, but no need for chemical enhancements at all.

I checked out his myspace page. I think I'm too old to understand the complex and sophisticated web design techniques of the myspace members so all I can do is look at the pics. :blank:

The physique is achievable without roids but the strength moves he does are largely due to great genetics and short arms and are not feasible for most people. Someone with longer arms could not do pushups the way he does them-he can lock his shoulders in place which can only be done if your shoulders and arms are of certain dimensions. Most humans could never do one handstand pushup but this guy did 10 pretty good ones. He doesn't go down all the way on his movements that's for sure, but he acknowledges that in the video. The strength required to hold the pullups and elevate diagonally is more than most will ever achieve, plus he's very light so that helps make it a little easier for him.

Hi, all.

I've been away from this site for over a year and have nothing to show for it (lousy year). However, this isn't the thread for that so I'll talk about it elsewhere.

But...this was one of the threads in my watch list so I decided to post what I think is the perfect female body. The lovely Danielle Edwards is on my desktop as a reminder of...well, something. ;)

Justin

The lovely Danielle Edwards is on my desktop as a reminder of...well, something. ;)

Justin

I LOVE her abs!!! :eek:

The physique that I am striving for (eventually) would be something like Gregg Avedon's (Have a look at his website). I can't really see the point in carrying any more bulk than that. I think I'll have to drop around 9% Body Fat though. Bring on the post Christmas diet!

its free to dream right? well i want a rugby player body then, or a rowers body(huge backs and legs)

here is an example: jonny wilkinson

http://img252.imageshack.us/img252/1723/dreambodyformepz1.jpg

Georges Saint Pierre has the ultimate body (no pun intended) according to me:

http://www.sherdog.com/_images/pictures/12/12085.jpg http://www.sherdog.com/_images/pictures/3/3342.jpg http://www.sherdog.com/_images/pictures/16/16212.jpg

Why the hell has the guy got painted toenails? Not very tough for UFC.

Frank "Twinkletoes" Trigg.

Yeah, he's probably not tough at all. :whistle:

I would give just about anything to look like this, just a weeeeeeee bit smaller. To have a pro bodybuilder phyisque, simply unreal. I will get there. . .soon

Actually i try to get a little big on the forearms , pecs and delts .:tu:

My specialities are abs & forearms ( working hard on these lately )

http://img442.imageshack.us/img442/7127/a3lk7.jpg



I don't like those phisiques that are big , not functional and stuff like that .

not functional
Hehe.

Hehe.
Why you laughing? Cos he works forearms and is worried about functionality?

On another note, Bruce Lee was very much into functionality, and he is my idol! :D

Why you laughing? Cos he works forearms and is worried about functionality?

On another note, Bruce Lee was very much into functionality, and he is my idol! :D
It has nothing to do with his physique or his goals. :tu: I just can't help but snicker whenever someone mentions "function" / "functional" / "functionality" because it's invariably used in a completely ridiculous context.

It has nothing to do with his physique or his goals. :tu: I just can't help but snicker whenever someone mentions "function" / "functional" / "functionality" because it's invariably used in a completely ridiculous context.

Heh, it all depends on the goals of the person, and what they consider functional. A bodybuilder is functional in the fact that his function is to look good compared to other bodybuilders, while a thrower is functional in the fact that he can generate a tremendous amount of force on a tiny object in a relatively small space.

Heh, it all depends on the goals of the person, and what they consider functional. A bodybuilder is functional in the fact that his function is to look good compared to other bodybuilders, while a thrower is functional in the fact that he can generate a tremendous amount of force on a tiny object in a relatively small space.
:tu:

Hehe.


When i see those big , full of ,,muscles,, guys with no esence at all , all bulck and nothing else ( not capable of doing 3 pull-ups in a row ! ) . Well that my friend i call ,,not functional,, is just big ( and full of god knows what substance ....) . I just prefer quality over quantity .

When a big guy ( the average ,,gym like,, type of guy- stopes the gym workout for 3 month is quite over for him : the muscles start slowly to atrophy and loss muscles very quickly . That doesn't happen to natural build muscles ) .

I have nothing against ,,big muscles,, is just that those aren't natural and functional in my opinion .

Bye

When i see those big , full of ,,muscles,, guys with no esence at all , all bulck and nothing else ( not capable of doing 3 pull-ups in a row ! ) . Well that my friend i call ,,not functional,, is just big ( and full of god knows what substance ....) . I just prefer quality over quantity .

When a big guy ( the average ,,gym like,, type of guy- stopes the gym workout for 3 month is quite over for him : the muscles start slowly to atrophy and loss muscles very quickly . That doesn't happen to natural build muscles ) .

I have nothing against ,,big muscles,, is just that those aren't natural and functional in my opinion .

Bye

Im pretty sure they could do more than three pullups, and even if they do take roids the still have to stimulate the muscle.:tucool:

Im pretty sure they could do more than three pullups, and even if they do take roids the still have to stimulate the muscle.:tucool:
Also, if you consider that most men can't even perform three pull-ups (let alone one), I don't think these bodybuilders are particularly alone. Is the pull-up some grand definition of functional? What's it good for? I don't recall that life has ever required me to use one to scale a wall, climb a tree, or what have you.

When a big guy ( the average ,,gym like,, type of guy- stopes the gym workout for 3 month is quite over for him : the muscles start slowly to atrophy and loss muscles very quickly . That doesn't happen to natural build muscles ) .
This isn't true. If any person stops working out, doesn't maintain his/her eating habits and, if applicable, their drug use, or doesn't significantly tax their muscles then they will atrophy and the person will lose strength. Natural built muscles, drug assisted muscles, muscles built through weight-training, muscles built through bodyweight training -- they will all atrophy. The body doesn't know the difference.

Im pretty sure they could do more than three pullups, and even if they do take roids the still have to stimulate the muscle.:tucool:

Off course they stimulate the muscle ...How else ?? ( i hate when peopels see 1 guy that is well build and say : ,, He takes bla bla bla,, ...it seems that by taking something you go from 0 to 100 ) .

I was just saying that those kinds of muscles are a bit artificial , i mean i prefer a lean DENSE muscles than bulcky one ...that's just me & i don't wannna offend the big guy and such .

Also, if you consider that most men can't even perform three pull-ups (let alone one), I don't think these bodybuilders are particularly alone. Is the pull-up some grand definition of functional? What's it good for? I don't recall that life has ever required me to use one to scale a wall, climb a tree, or what have you.

- Pull up is far better than the lat pull - down station No question about that , AND is far better - to remain in the context - as far as functionality goes ( i am into martial arts ) it gives you a better muscle development ( not necesary big but improves the strength a LOT ) - Ask anyone what is better between a pull - up or a lat machine ?

This isn't true. If any person stops working out, doesn't maintain his/her eating habits and, if applicable, their drug use, or doesn't significantly tax their muscles then they will atrophy and the person will lose strength. Natural built muscles, drug assisted muscles, muscles built through weight-training, muscles built through bodyweight training -- they will all atrophy. The body doesn't know the difference.

- I didn't invent that , just look at ALL the exbodybuilders ( just a stupid exemple ) around . The superficial muscles will disapear a MORE faster than the natutal ones , c'mon we all know that . Look ... is logic that if i use drugs to increase my muscularity , my body addicts to that drug for the purpose to increase in strength and mass , when i stop using it all these advanteges diseaper in time because simply the human body doesn't have the resources to keep up with it . is a simple fact .

- When you build it naturally , it's obvious that even when you stop working out for some time the decrease will be much SLOWER because you build that with the resources that your body already have , you didn't have to take the X pills or Y powder ....

The superficial muscles will disapear a MORE faster than the natutal ones , c'mon we all know that

...

- When you build it naturally , it's obvious that even when you stop working out for some time the decrease will be much SLOWER because you build that with the resources that your body already have , you didn't have to take the X pills or Y powder ....

Neither of these two statements are obvious. Do you have knowledge that different training methods produce different muscle types with different properties (such as density?) and different atrophy rates?

Also, if you consider that most men can't even perform three pull-ups (let alone one), I don't think these bodybuilders are particularly alone. Is the pull-up some grand definition of functional? What's it good for? I don't recall that life has ever required me to use one to scale a wall, climb a tree, or what have you...

He look like most men to you, go take video of some of your lifts and stop trying to prove everyone wrong, discussion forum not prove everyone wrong forum.

I never said anything about functionality either did I? The pull is functional for a bodybuilders purpose and that is achieving stimulus for hypertrophy.

He look like most men to you, go take video of some of your lifts and stop trying to prove everyone wrong, discussion forum not prove everyone wrong forum.

I never said anything about functionality either did I? The pull is functional for a bodybuilders purpose and that is achieving stimulus for hypertrophy.
I think you misread my post. I wasn't trying to refute anything you said. I was agreeing with you and trying to expand upon what you said in response to Lo7us.

You said:

Im pretty sure they could do more than three pullups, and even if they do take roids the still have to stimulate the muscle.

To that, I added:

Also, if you consider that most men can't even perform three pull-ups (let alone one), I don't think these bodybuilders are particularly alone. Is the pull-up some grand definition of functional? What's it good for? I don't recall that life has ever required me to use one to scale a wall, climb a tree, or what have you.

What I'm saying is that I agree that they can very likely do more than three pull-ups. But, if they can't, I don't think it matters since the average man is unlikely to be able to do three pull-ups. Then I question why the original poster even regards the pull-up as the standard for a "functional movement" since it's usefulness in daily life is severely questionable.

The key word is the "also" that starts off the post; by using it, I mean to build upon what you said in response to the same audience (the original poster Lo7us).

BTW, I don't quite understand what you mean in the first part of your post, but I have posted quite a few videos of myself lifting. They are linked in my signature. If you have further issues with my conduct or the way I present myself on this forum, I would happy to discuss the issues you have with me through PMs.

I think you misread my post. I wasn't trying to refute anything you said. I was agreeing with you and trying to expand upon what you said in response to Lo7us.

You said:



To that, I added:



What I'm saying is that I agree that they can very likely do more than three pull-ups. But, if they can't, I don't think it matters since the average man is unlikely to be able to do three pull-ups. Then I question why the original poster even regards the pull-up as the standard for a "functional movement" since it's usefulness in daily life is severely questionable.

The key word is the "also" that starts off the post; by using it, I mean to build upon what you said in response to the same audience (the original poster Lo7us).

BTW, I don't quite understand what you mean in the first part of your post, but I have posted quite a few videos of myself lifting. They are linked in my signature. If you have further issues with my conduct or the way I present myself on this forum, I would happy to discuss the issues you have with me through PMs.

Just ignore what I said mate Ive been drinking. I still dont get what you mean but peace Ill read it when im sober.

He look like most men to you, go take video of some of your lifts and stop trying to prove everyone wrong, discussion forum not prove everyone wrong forum. Yes, this is a discussion forum, and that's precisely what this was until you started your personal attacks and rudeness.

Just ignore what I said mate Ive been drinking. What you choose to do is your business, but if you come here and break the rules I don't care about your excuses. If you expect to remain a member here, you will need to conduct yourself according to the rules you agreed to (which you might want to re-read (http://forums.johnstonefitness.com/announcement.php?f=24&a=3)) when you created your account.

Please get this thread back on track. If any of you would like to continue discussing the current subject, please do it by PM or, if you can be civil, start a new thread. Thank you.

http://horror.about.com/library/weekly/Amityville/pages/RYAN_REYNOLDS-ANDREW_DOUGLAS.jpg

ryan reynolds.. hes probably been posted, but to me he has always had a great body. too too weak, not too over the top. i'd love to achieve something similar to his one day

Stefanc, its funny that you posted that, I was just collecting some Ryan Reynolds pictures to post in here. My fiance is pretty sure I've got a crush on the guy but come on- he's frickin' ripped! :lol: This is definitely what my fitness goal looks like.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v615/carddante/e551afcc-8aea-47be-9db1-b196a28fd42.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v615/carddante/rthj5f.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v615/carddante/ryan_reynolds_97_1160082164.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v615/carddante/11-ryan_reynolds_01.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v615/carddante/180px-Reynolds_KING.jpg

This is definitely what my fitness goal looks like.


Ditto!

The good thing about Ryan Reynolds is that his look is probably attainable for a lot of people. Maybe not quite to the ripped Blade Ryan, but definitely the top pic.

Somewhere above an Abercrombie skinny model and well below bodybuilder sized muscle with decent bodyfat.

Ditto!
Ditto!

The good thing about Ryan Reynolds is that his look is probably attainable for a lot of people. Maybe not quite to the ripped Blade Ryan, but definitely the top pic.

Somewhere above an Abercrombie skinny model and well below bodybuilder sized muscle with decent bodyfat.
I agree. He has what I consider to be the perfect physique, and even better, it's very attainable naturally for most people who are willing to put in the work.

Some recent pics I found that a couple of you have commented on based on the one in my avatar. While Karatekicker is right that Ryan Reynold's physique is attainable, I will never look like that as I dont have the tall slender build, but more likely the following is what I am shooting for:

Ditto!


I agree. He has what I consider to be the perfect physique, and even better, it's very attainable naturally for most people who are willing to put in the work.

Well, since I think you have the perfect physique kt, and you think Ryan Reynolds has it, I aspire to Ryan's physique as well, although yours would still be a goal to seek. Although I did start out tall and thin like Ryan, I still have major work to do on my abs and chest to even approach Ryan-like proportions. Probably more than I am willing to do.:(

Something like this :lol:

Something like this :lol:

Eh...kinda flabby :confused: ... ;) ... :lol:

I'm not sure who this guy is, but this is what i'm shooting for.

http://img49.imageshack.us/img49/812/rarghtz0.jpg

http://theage.com.au/ffximage/2004/08/28/cg_108096272_gallery__550x412.jpg

http://theage.com.au/ffximage/2004/08/28/cg_108096272_gallery__550x412.jpg

Is this some sort of new Olympic event combining high jump with deadlift? :lol:

That guy has some UPS!

Best body in my opinion: Vin Diesel.

http://www.exposay.com/celebrity-photos2/matthew-mcconaughey-likes-the-beach-part-168354-uZv.jpg

Is this some sort of new Olympic event combining high jump with deadlift? :lol:

That guy has some UPS!

Yeah, it's called the Deadjump :lol:.

Would someone please post some pictures of Gerard Butler up here!!! I ran out of pictures space on here and I think he definately deserves to be up on this thread of perfect bodies!!! His new movie 300 is absolutely amazing!!! Everyone in that movie is huge!!! He looks like a monster in every scene!!! Thanks, Jack

Would someone please post some pictures of Gerard Butler up here!!!

I'm sure there are better photos, but here are a few I found looking quickly:

http://jaypaulsimon.com/p/300-1.jpg

http://jaypaulsimon.com/p/300-2.jpg

http://jaypaulsimon.com/p/300-3.jpg

http://jaypaulsimon.com/p/300-4.jpg

http://jaypaulsimon.com/p/300-5.jpg

And for comparison's sake, here's what I assume is an older photo of Mr. Butler:

http://jaypaulsimon.com/p/butler-01.jpg

- J

Thanks Volleyball!!! These are some good pictures...

http://www.exposay.com/celebrity-photos2/matthew-mcconaughey-likes-the-beach-part-168354-uZv.jpg
lol

This is no way what I want to look like, but the vascularity is unbelievable. And some of the leanest arms I've seen...

http://i.b5z.net/i/u/230085/i/NPCCollegiateNationalsMostMuscularOutdoorzoom_ezr. jpg

And of the ladies:

http://www.infinityfitness.com/images/articles/88LV7855.jpg

This is pretty healthy looking :)

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/181/439674273_d14698d8ca.jpg

One of my big inspiration sources.. Laird Hamilton. Very athletic imo.

One of my big inspiration sources.. Laird Hamilton. Very athletic imo.
Have you seen his training? He's a monster.

Have you seen his training? He's a monster.

Yep. He's really amazing - multiathlete and works hard for it as well. It's one of the reasons why I find him very inspiring. Those muscles are good for something too and not only good-looking.. :)

Here are some looks I'm shooting for (or at least whatever equivalent will fit onto my 5'3" frame :rolleyes: )

Nathan "Rock" Quarry, an MMA champ. It's functional, butt-kickin' built.

http://img406.imageshack.us/img406/1112/leftbarlow2jpgmsgmsg117kz4.jpg

http://img223.imageshack.us/img223/4028/quarrycarter5jpgmsgmsg1jb0.jpg

And for the Missus: (But I love my pizza too much...:eat:)

http://img223.imageshack.us/img223/2940/abs01jpgmsgmsg117563212me4.jpg

Holy smokes! The last picture is amazing!

Holy smokes! The last picture is amazing!

What? You're hubby (boyfriend, sig other?) isn't ripped liked that? ;)

It looks great, but I'm wondering how much of it is Photoshopped. (I'm looking at the shadows under each of the cuts on his abs.)

Holy smokes! The last picture is amazing!

Holy smokes, Batman.
I second that!

What? You're hubby (boyfriend, sig other?) isn't ripped liked that? ;)

I think doordude would be upset to hear you say that. ;)

doordude
:drool: ;)

http://www.criticalbench.com/images/sprinter2.jpg

http://img223.imageshack.us/img223/4028/quarrycarter5jpgmsgmsg1jb0.jpg

And for the Missus: (But I love my pizza too much...:eat:)

http://img223.imageshack.us/img223/2940/abs01jpgmsgmsg117563212me4.jpg
:eek: :D :drool:
I wonder about the difference between these two photos. They're both very admirable physiques, but I'm curious about whether you think it's a difference between training techniques, or more of a genetic predisposition that determines how different they look from each other. In the upper photo, there are very pronounced ripples to the side of his abdominals that I haven't noticed in other athletes before. The lower photo is more typical of "magazine style" well-defined abs. (I wonder what his legs look like.) Is it just a question of building up the muscle mass to make that six pack stand out, or is there a difference in fat distribution, frame shape, and other factors?

:eek: :D :drool:
I wonder about the difference between these two photos. They're both very admirable physiques, but I'm curious about whether you think it's a difference between training techniques, or more of a genetic predisposition that determines how different they look from each other. In the upper photo, there are very pronounced ripples to the side of his abdominals that I haven't noticed in other athletes before. The lower photo is more typical of "magazine style" well-defined abs. (I wonder what his legs look like.) Is it just a question of building up the muscle mass to make that six pack stand out, or is there a difference in fat distribution, frame shape, and other factors?

There's probably a mix of everything in there, but also the magic airbrush :whistle:

I'm curious about whether you think it's a difference between training techniques, or more of a genetic predisposition that determines how different they look from each other.

I think it's a mix of both with training being the more dominant factor. Boxers and wrestlers work a tremendous amount on explosive arm extension and rotation, giving them those chunky serratus and teres major muscles at the back of the armpit in addition to powerful pecs.

The model has great pectoral mass but not proportionate size in the other linkage muscles. This may have been done intentionally to accentuate his taper and shoulder-width -- either in the gym or in photoshop.

Any retouching aside, they're both phenomenal physiques. As altered as the model may be, he wasn't drawn from scratch. :drool:

:eek: :D :drool:
I wonder about the difference between these two photos. They're both very admirable physiques, but I'm curious about whether you think it's a difference between training techniques, or more of a genetic predisposition that determines how different they look from each other. In the upper photo, there are very pronounced ripples to the side of his abdominals that I haven't noticed in other athletes before. The lower photo is more typical of "magazine style" well-defined abs. (I wonder what his legs look like.) Is it just a question of building up the muscle mass to make that six pack stand out, or is there a difference in fat distribution, frame shape, and other factors?
I think it's a mix of both with training being the more dominant factor. Boxers and wrestlers work a tremendous amount on explosive arm extension and rotation, giving them those chunky serratus and teres major muscles at the back of the armpit in addition to powerful pecs
:nod:

Serratus, teres major and, of course, intercoastals and obliques. You can almost always tell an athlete from a model if you look at these muscles. They'll also usually look more "powerful" / developed through the midsection, whereas a waist like that model wouldn't look much different from his early training vs. the time of the photo. IMO, athletes look like they're "put together" a lot better for this reason -- I'm not a fan of that model's proportions at all.

Read this (http://www.t-nation.com/readTopic.do?id=1516819) last night and just had to post the photo here. Awesome read. and awesome physique.

I see all the same muscles in the two torsos above, I'm not sure what you guys are saying :confused:

I'm not a fan of that model's proportions at all.

And I'm not a fan of how low his pants are riding. http://smiley.onegreatguy.net/puke.gifhttp://smiley.onegreatguy.net/puke.gifhttp://smiley.onegreatguy.net/puke.gif

And I'm not a fan of how low his pants are riding. http://smiley.onegreatguy.net/puke.gifhttp://smiley.onegreatguy.net/puke.gifhttp://smiley.onegreatguy.net/puke.gif

x2. Seriously. I don't know if it's the veins, the almost-peep-show, or both.

And I'm not a fan of how low his pants are riding. http://smiley.onegreatguy.net/puke.gifhttp://smiley.onegreatguy.net/puke.gifhttp://smiley.onegreatguy.net/puke.gif
:lol: :nod:

Read this (http://www.t-nation.com/readTopic.do?id=1516819) last night ....
:( I'm not crazy about the bullying that's going on there.

She has an awesome physique of course; I've very impressed with what she's accomplished. But I'm not sure why people are so touchy about the athleticism/lack of athleticism involved in it. If someone wants to prove her abilities in a skill, she should choose a skill-based endeavor, not an aesthetically judged one. And how do you take someone's athleticism seriously when she's wearing only half of a bikini top? Would you call her an athlete but not the guy in the jeans? :rolleyes:

And how do you take someone's athleticism seriously when she's wearing only half of a bikini top?

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:eek: :D :drool:
I wonder about the difference between these two photos. They're both very admirable physiques, but I'm curious about whether you think it's a difference between training techniques, or more of a genetic predisposition that determines how different they look from each other. In the upper photo, there are very pronounced ripples to the side of his abdominals that I haven't noticed in other athletes before. The lower photo is more typical of "magazine style" well-defined abs. (I wonder what his legs look like.) Is it just a question of building up the muscle mass to make that six pack stand out, or is there a difference in fat distribution, frame shape, and other factors?

This is a good question. I'm also very curious. Photoshop and genetics may have played a role in the difference in appearance...that as well as tanning. But in the first picture, the guy's hips really did look much wider than the model in the second picture. I'm also very curious to know if there is a difference in routines. I'm pretty sure the model does compound lifts as well...the guy does have some serious mass on him (atleast upper body, for sure)

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I'm tempted to join T-nation, just so I can ask those guys in the thread if they think LL Cool J is an athlete, and, if not, whether they want to tell him that he doesn't work as hard as she does. :D
http://www.palmbeachpost.com/shared-blogs/palmbeach/swan/media/1594866082.01._SS500_SCLZZZZZZZ_V38639288_.jpg

And how do you take someone's athleticism seriously when she's wearing only half of a bikini top? Would you call her an athlete but not the guy in the jeans? :rolleyes:

I think the questioning of being an athlete is just ridiculous. As if "athlete" is a rank that is bestowed upon you. Anyone who steps out their front door to go for run, or go to the gym and lift, is athletic and can call themselves an athlete if they want.

It was great to read because you could see she has some inner turmoil about the whole thing. To get to where she is, she has to sweat it out like any athlete kicking her ass, doing all the same hardcore routines that any other weightlifter does, but then she has to worry about things like posing in heels? that part just seemed ridiculous, that has to suck.

And how do you take someone's athleticism seriously when she's wearing only half of a bikini top?

is this better?

...she has to worry about things like posing in heels? that part just seemed ridiculous, that has to suck.:rolleyes: Whoever thinks it's ridiculous shouldn't do it.

is this better?
Nah, it doesn't matter. I think she looks hot no matter what. :lol:

I just think if she's so conflicted about it, she should stop competing.

Nah, it doesn't matter. I think she looks hot no matter what. :lol:

I just think if she's so conflicted about it, she should stop competing.

I agree. she must get something out of it.

Nah, it doesn't matter. I think she looks hot no matter what. :lol:

I just think if she's so conflicted about it, she should stop competing.

Some people actually like to have anger to motivate them. Hence the whole "out to prove something" mentality.

I don't think she's conflicted. Just irritated she and her "sport" are misunderstood as she sees it.

Kinda like how many of us get when people in our real lives try to tell us we're crazy for trying to be healthier.

is this better?

:drool:

Very enlightening post.

Also what type of competition do they have where the women do strength moves, 1h push-ups etc during the competition. I wonder if she's ever thought of doing that. She seems to love what she does, and teaches others is a good way to show that you do :P

How about this one guava? :lol: at least more of her boobs are covered than the bikini shot. not practical though, that belt's just not going to stay up :nope:

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Very enlightening post.

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How about this one guava? :lol: I like the belt. :tu:

Sent, those are called fitness competitions. The women are judged on their strength moves, flexibility, and choreography, but there is also a posing component to the judging.
Here's Jenny Hendershott:
http://www.jennyh.com/images/jengallery/olympia05/olycomp/WW2Q1390.jpg

It's my belief that many of the women who participate in figure competitions, like the lovely lady gravityhomer posted above, are doing it not as an athletic pursuit, but more of as a stepping stone towards figure modelling. As mentioned in the T-nation thread, there are women who have literally stepped up on the stage after a mere 12 weeks of training and taken first place in a competition. So while it require a lot of athleticism, strength, determination, and dedication, it doesn't take any more work than, for instance, the work that John Stone and dozens of other guys on this forum do every week. I wonder how many of them are pissed off at the lack of opportunity to compete in "not-quite-bodybuilding" contests. ;)

I think this guy could win:
http://ec1.images-amazon.com/images/P/B000E4CSB6.01-A22NC8YWOFM0VL._SCLZZZZZZZ_AA280_.jpg
Is there a NSFW warning on this thread? :o

Jason Robinson, rugby player for Sale Sharks & England. He plays the same position as me - wing - and he's an absolute beast. He's only 5'8" and about 175 pounds, but he combines lightning acceleration, incredible balance and great strength to be one of the most amazing wingers of the modern game.

http://www.rugbyheaven.smh.com.au/ffxImage/urlpicture_id_1056220543873_2003/06/23/2406-fitzy,0.jpg

This is a great example of what he's about - check out the acceleration, pace and footwork here:

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This one is good too, I love the way he just sidesteps the opponent like he's just a rock or something.

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Jason Robinson, rugby player for Sale Sharks & England. He plays the same position as me - wing - and he's an absolute beast. He's only 5'8" and about 175 pounds, but he combines lightning acceleration, incredible balance and great strength to be one of the most amazing wingers of the modern game.


wow pretty impressive. That sport is tough. The kick to get two more points looks incredibly hard. How often do people make that kick. I can't believe how far away it is.

Is it the same tackling rules as American football? When the guy needs to be brought to his knee or butt. The guys seem to pass it off right before they are touched. which would make sense even if it were tackle. But in the first clip I'm pretty surprised the guy passed it like that right at the last second. He was moving fast and the other defender was standing still, I think your mate could have blown right by him without even giving up the ball.


Guava: a figure competition for men. Now that is an interesting concept. How would it work? The idea behind figure competition for women is that they still retain the feminine look (at least this is what some claim). But I think there is something to what you say. The difference between the guy you posted (in the man hammock) and the Ronnie coleman is just as large (if not larger) than the difference between the figure competitors and bodybuilders for women. Perhaps there is a commonality between the idea behind of figure competitors and the model above. Perhaps fitness modeling? I don't think that is quite right though, as that doesn't rule out Ronnie. There most be a phrase or idea that captures the athletic non-vascular look for both women and men.

Guava: a figure competition for men. Now that is an interesting concept. How would it work?

Pretty much the same way. (http://universeweekend.com/)

Nick Auger - Model Universe Winner:

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Another, working shoulders:

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wow pretty impressive. That sport is tough. The kick to get two more points looks incredibly hard. How often do people make that kick. I can't believe how far away it is.

That kick is called a conversion, and can be taken from any point on the field in line with the point the ball was touched down for the try. So, for tries that are scored close to the posts, there's a high success rate for the conversion, but it's not as great when the ball is put down in the corners. Jonny Wilkinson, the England kicker (and one of the greatest to have ever played the game) has something like an 83% success rate from all place kicks (you can also score 3 points for converting a penalty kick).

There's also such a thing as a drop goal, where the ball can be kicked through the posts for 3 points from anywhere on the field. For a drop goal, the ball must hit the ground before being kicked. One famous example is the World Cup final in 2003 between England and Australia. The game was level at 17-17 in the last minute of overtime, when Jonny Wilkinson received the ball and kicked over a drop goal under immense pressure to win the match.

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This clip also shows you some of the subtleties of possession play in rugby - the phases before the kick allow England to make ground up the field, getting the kicker closer to the posts. Wilkinson then slots back into the "pocket" (basically this means he's directly behind the passer, so it's near impossible for the opposition to get him to before he's kicked it).


Is it the same tackling rules as American football? When the guy needs to be brought to his knee or butt. The guys seem to pass it off right before they are touched. which would make sense even if it were tackle. But in the first clip I'm pretty surprised the guy passed it like that right at the last second. He was moving fast and the other defender was standing still, I think your mate could have blown right by him without even giving up the ball.

The tackling rules are complicated... I'll give it a go though :D

The tackler has to use his arms - he can't bodycheck.
Once the player with the ball is on the ground and the tackler is holding him, the player with the ball MUST release it. Players who are on their feet can then compete for the ball.
Once two or more players are in contact over the ball (when it is on the ground), the referee will call "ruck" (usually adding "hands away" in his call) which means that no one can use their hands to play the ball until it is picked up by the scrum-half. A ruck is basically a big effort to push your own team mates over the ball to win possession, or to 'heel' the ball backwards to the scrum-half.

There are some examples of rucks in the video above in this post, prior to the drop goal.

Often players will want to keep the ball 'alive' and off the floor, so will offload just before they are tackled, while they are being tackled or even straight from the floor.


One more clip - probably the greatest rugby try ever scored, a length of the field effort by the Barbarians vs New Zealand in the 1970s. My dad was at this game. It is often referred to as "the try".

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I think this guy could win:
http://ec1.images-amazon.com/images/P/B000E4CSB6.01-A22NC8YWOFM0VL._SCLZZZZZZZ_AA280_.jpg
Is there a NSFW warning on this thread? :o

lol almost spit up my water onto my screen


So the competitions she does aren't fitness ones?? They seem pretty tough to me. Im confused :o

How about this one guava? :lol: at least more of her boobs are covered than the bikini shot. not practical though, that belt's just not going to stay up :nope:


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Wow :eek: :drool:

And I'm not a fan of how low his pants are riding. http://smiley.onegreatguy.net/puke.gifhttp://smiley.onegreatguy.net/puke.gifhttp://smiley.onegreatguy.net/puke.gif

x2. Seriously. I don't know if it's the veins, the almost-peep-show, or both.

:lol: :nod:

Seriously, guys... I didn't see the barf smiley for any of the Bikini-Bited V patch teases on Olesya Novik (http://forums.johnstonefitness.com/showpost.php?p=461232&postcount=1680) :blank:

You all sound like these frumpy housewives who can only see the "indecent exposure" element of sexy member of their gender... :lol: ;)

And reading Olesya's post on T-Nation... I can really sympathize, actually... what she wants is respect! for her discipline and hard work. I would give anything to have a fraction of her discipline... I wouldn't care, that given my age (and genetics), I could never look like her.... She is one disciplined mama. And that is hard work she does and she does it daily and not just workouts but also her food. Man!!! And because the results are that she yields a sexy, hot figure competitor body, the necessary hard work that goes into that body seems to evaporate from people's consciousness, if it ever was there at all.

I admire anyone who is disciplined, long term, with consistency and hard work, to achieve and maintain goals, no matter what they are interested in, whether it's a sexy bod, a heavy lift, being a great architect, a skilled writer, a nurturer of children, a digger of ditches.

It's one thing to have a dream and say you want to do or be xyz; it's another to engage in the long term discipline and thoughtfulness to accomplish it.

My hat's off to her... even with her "peep show" v-bikini... :nod:


And Guava... I think you should join T-nation... :D

Seriously, guys... I didn't see the barf smiley for any of the Bikini-Bited V patch teases on Olesya Novik (http://forums.johnstonefitness.com/showpost.php?p=461232&postcount=1680) :blank:

You all sound like these frumpy housewives who can only see the "indecent exposure" element of sexy member of their gender... :lol: ;)

Well, considering that nearly exposed women is a norm in the media (whereas men, outside of underwear commercials, are rarely exposed further than a pair of board shorts), the relative social taboo of male nudity (though this seems to be changing lately in cinema), the thought that the male genitalia is not commonly regarded as aesthetically pleasing, and the idea that a woman's genitalia is characterized by the relative absence of external parts, I think the dichotomy of our reaction is only natural.

Also, note that no one said anything about the banana hammock dude guava posted. IMO, there's something a lot more disturbing about a pair of pants that is riding way too low than a guy blatantly wearing a speedo or similar underwear. Though I'm sure a lot of men would take issue with that as well, but it seems like the fitness crowd is necessarily a bit more accepting of it in general.

And reading Olesya's post on T-Nation... I can really sympathize, actually... what she wants is respect! for her discipline and hard work. I would give anything to have a fraction of her discipline... I wouldn't care, that given my age (and genetics), I could never look like her.... She is one disciplined mama. And that is hard work she does and she does it daily and not just workouts but also her food. Man!!! And because the results are that she yields a sexy, hot figure competitor body, the necessary hard work that goes into that body seems to evaporate from people's consciousness, if it ever was there at all.

I admire anyone who is disciplined, long term, with consistency and hard work, to achieve and maintain goals, no matter what they are interested in, whether it's a sexy bod, a heavy lift, being a great architect, a skilled writer, a nurturer of children, a digger of ditches.

It's one thing to have a dream and say you want to do or be xyz; it's another to engage in the long term discipline and thoughtfulness to accomplish it.

My hat's off to her... even with her "peep show" v-bikini... :nod:
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I would give anything to have a fraction of her discipline.

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Excellent post. :tu:

Also, note that no one said anything about the banana hammock dude guava posted. IMO, there's something a lot more disturbing about a pair of pants that is riding way too low than a guy blatantly wearing a speedo or similar underwear. Though I'm sure a lot of men would take issue with that as well, but it seems like the fitness crowd is necessarily a bit more accepting of it in general.


You know, come to think of it, and now that you mention it, I don't think it's the low riding pants in and of itself that bothers me. I'm thoroughly straight, mind you, but speedos and whatever don't bother me for some reason. I think it's more the veins. It looks really, really weird. I haven't seen that before and they look bizzare and out of place down there in that area. So I think the posts may have been more in reference to that than his low pants.

You know, come to think of it, and now that you mention it, I don't think it's the low riding pants in and of itself that bothers me. I'm thoroughly straight, mind you, but speedos and whatever don't bother me for some reason. I think it's more the veins. It looks really, really weird. I haven't seen that before and they look bizzare and out of place down there in that area. So I think the posts may have been more in reference to that than his low pants.
That might still be tied to the idea that what is being exposed is not supposed to be seen. When you see pants, you expect that they will cover the area up to the hips. When you see a speedo, you expect coverage of just the essentials. Since he's wearing pants, but he's showing a lot more than would normally be shown (including these veins which you find disturbing) that may be where the real problem lies. The fact that he's wearing pants/shorts, but exposing that much of his groin and all that you see there (thereby not fulfilling the proper function of the pants) is what is actually the most disturbing.

I'm obviously no psychologist though. Haha.

Pretty much the same way. (http://universeweekend.com/)I have trouble believing that the guys at T-nation would applaud the superior athleticism, dedication, discipline, and hard work that he puts into that.

I have trouble believing that the guys at T-nation would applaud the superior athleticism, dedication, discipline, and hard work that he puts into that.

...might want to read this one (http://www.t-nation.com:80/readTopic.do?id=1478463).

Also, note that no one said anything about the banana hammock dude guava posted.

...or the Ryan Reynolds pics (http://forums.johnstonefitness.com/showthread.php?p=446951#post446951) a few pages back with his pants/jeans falling off of his hips.

Maybe 'cause there's a head on the body? :confused:

...might want to read this one (http://www.t-nation.com:80/readTopic.do?id=1478463).

Athletic fitness. sounds exactly like a male version of figure competitors although half the competition is body weight exercises and stamina, which I'm sure the female figure competitors could certainly do. That guy looks awesome.

I agree with Chico, it is the illusion of the pants coming off that makes the impact stronger than just seeing underwear/speedo.

Same thing for women. If a woman were wearing a white bikini bottom, no big deal. But if she is wearing a skirt that she lifts up and now that same bikini bottom is visble only it looks now like underwear, this is now more revealing and would make a larger impact.

...or the Ryan Reynolds pics (http://forums.johnstonefitness.com/showthread.php?p=446951#post446951) a few pages back with his pants/jeans falling off of his hips.

Maybe 'cause there's a head on the body? :confused:
Maybe it's 'cause the button isn't undone and it doesn't look like he's about to slide them down and whip it out? :cry:

IMO, it looks like Reynolds could just wear them there all the time.

Same thing for women. If a woman were wearing a white bikini bottom, no big deal. But if she is wearing a skirt that she lifts up and now that same bikini bottom is visble only it looks now like underwear, this is now more revealing and would make a larger impact.
Good point. Another example would be if you had a picture of a girl pulling the bikini bottom tight against her crotch (as you may sometime see on your travels through the interweb :whistle:) that would also sexualize the photo and make a larger impact. I guess it's the difference between sexy vs. sexual, even if, when applied to the male, those aren't the terms we're recognizing (though they seem to be implicit to what we're trying to say).

Maybe it's 'cause the button isn't undone and it doesn't look like he's about to slide them down and whip it out? :cry:

:lol: :claplow:

Maybe it's 'cause the button isn't undone and it doesn't look like he's about to slide them down and whip it out? :cry:

I think it's the veins, actually.

If Olesya Novik looked like she had a subcutaneous octopus writhing out of her g-string it'd draw just as bad a reaction. :scared:

I think it's the veins, actually.

If Olesya Novik looked like she had a subcutaneous octopus writhing out of her g-string it'd draw just as bad a reaction. :scared:

certainly that doesn't help.

I guess it's the difference between sexy vs. sexual

Can you elaborate on the difference, just curious.

Pretty much the same way. (http://universeweekend.com/)

Nick Auger - Model Universe Winner:


he sure is purty.




The tackling rules are complicated... I'll give it a go though :D

The tackler has to use his arms - he can't bodycheck.
Once the player with the ball is on the ground and the tackler is holding him, the player with the ball MUST release it. Players who are on their feet can then compete for the ball.
Once two or more players are in contact over the ball (when it is on the ground), the referee will call "ruck" (usually adding "hands away" in his call) which means that no one can use their hands to play the ball until it is picked up by the scrum-half. A ruck is basically a big effort to push your own team mates over the ball to win possession, or to 'heel' the ball backwards to the scrum-half.


Wow, so it's not complicated at all. :blank: Thanks for the explanation. I missed it when the page turned. it made a lot more sense when I saw the videos.

...might want to read this one.
:bow: I feel more comfortable about the whole thing now that I can see there is an equivalent for the male portion of the world, which is taken just as seriously.

:bow: I feel more comfortable about the whole thing now that I can see there is an equivalent for the male portion of the world, which is taken just as seriously.

That guy is seriously ripped with an impressive taper.

I'd much rather have that look than a body builder myself. It's kinda Ryan Reynolds from before turned up to 11.

Plus, he says he can do 30 pullups at 190. That's pretty impressive. I'm lucky to crank 15 clean ones.

Jason Robinson, rugby player for Sale Sharks & England. He plays the same position as me - wing - and he's an absolute beast. He's only 5'8" and about 175 pounds, but he combines lightning acceleration, incredible balance and great strength to be one of the most amazing wingers of the modern game.

I've never sat down to watch Rugby, but he's got some crazy powerful accel going on there, very impressive :eek:

Can you elaborate on the difference, just curious.
Here's my take on it:

The sexy model is sexy on his/her own, whether you're looking at him/her or not. Ryan Reynolds is the perfect example. He's sexy because he's not asking to be admired. The sexual model begs for your approval through eye contact or suggestive positioning of body parts. Most photographers will attempt to find the fine line between the two, experimenting with borderline attire, ambiguous eye contact, or looking away from the camera. The photos of Olesya are too revealing and blatantly posed for me to consider them to be sexy. I think this photo of an unidentified woman on the beach is much sexier, an