Genetics can be altered? I thought they were pre-determined parts of are body that couldn't really be trained or improved much.

I think you misunderstood what he said. I think he meant that most people are far from their endpoint in looks. Just because people can't get the same body like someone else doesn't mean they don't have the ability to look really good.

For example I don't think John has come to an end point. He doesn't think that himself either so he busts his butt to get to where he wants. You can always go further

Did anyone see those bodies in the swim suit competition in the Miss America pagent that was just on last week? I pegged the top 2 winner and runner up during that segment when there were 10. I thought Ms. Oregon was going to win before the swim suit comp but she was the only one that didn't look like a ms fitness competition. In a few years I bet most of them will be able to step on stage in bodybuilding competiitions It was unreal how todays Ms. America Girls are in so much better condition than 10 or 20 years ago. (Remember I am married and my wife had it on but hey those bodies were not at all hard to look at).

Anyway thought I would throw up another perfect male body that did not get that way on steroids. All natural bodybuilding here folks He was the first bodybuilding guru I bought workout manuals from. I here ebay just sold a set of his original books for over 300 bucks course you can buy them photocopied from a guy named Ron for about a hundred.

Anyway thought I would throw up another perfect male body that did not get that way on steroids. All natural bodybuilding here folks He was the first bodybuilding guru I bought workout manuals from. I here ebay just sold a set of his original books for over 300 bucks course you can buy them photocopied from a guy named Ron for about a hundred.


his physique looks great...


I'm in awe at so much of the pictures in here...alot of them are just too skinny and don't have at least decent muscle proportioned on their bodies..

Brad Pitt? Beckham??

I don't know...I feel some of these men only have leaness and a six pack going for them...It's just my OPINION though...

IMO Lou Ferrigno was in much better shape than "the governator" and, I like Lou am deaf. He shows that being deaf isn't a "disability" as much as it is an "obstacle".

http://www.briansdriveintheater.com/hercules/louferrigno/louferrigno25.jpg

its unfortunate louie needed anabolics to build the body he had... when i was a kid, i idolized the incredible hulk, little did i know he was taking "special medicine" to make his muscles bigger... :-(

his physique looks great...


I'm in awe at so much of the pictures in here...alot of them are just too skinny and don't have at least decent muscle proportioned on their bodies..

Brad Pitt? Beckham??

I don't know...I feel some of these men only have leaness and a six pack going for them...It's just my OPINION though...


Yes nowadays people go for those types of bodies that when covered with shirt looks nothing but when they take out, all the muscles show out clearly. I personally thinks its great too as it somehow shows the sportman-body instead of the big bulky bodybuilder body that seems clusmy.

his physique looks great...


I'm in awe at so much of the pictures in here...alot of them are just too skinny and don't have at least decent muscle proportioned on their bodies..

Brad Pitt? Beckham??

I don't know...I feel some of these men only have leaness and a six pack going for them...It's just my OPINION though...

The reason I posted those two, is that some of us have different goals and therefore 'adjusted perfect body' types in mind. At 5'11", 170lbs, my BF% is still at least 18%. I'm probably some version of an ectomorph. While I don't plan on cutting/bulking to the point that I look like some of the beefcakes posted on this thread, a more lightweight target will still prove quite the challenge. I imagine that I'm probably not the only one like that on this forum.

Yep. Ditto that. But, at least Beckham has a body that works for what he's doing - playing football. No way I want, or will get, a body like that, though.

When I get rid of the little remaining fat, I'll prolly end up looking something like the guy in the very first pic.

I laughed so hard at that picture of the girls from The Apprentice in their underwear. Hehehe

I think they look great, but what the hell. "I am soooo serious about being a big time business lady--look at my boobies!"

I heard that some of them were on the show trying to flash cleavage at Donald Trump. (I didn't actually watch the show though, so I don't really know.) How silly. :p

I'm not implying that the pictures posted in here should've been only hugely built bodybuilders..

there are those particular people who have a physique with great musculature and symmetry...but don't look like huge freaks..

those like Bill Davey..or Frank Zane...or non bodybuilders who have good builds like Vin Diesel...Stallone when he wasn't GROSSLY ripped...Brad Allan of whom you posted pictures also..there are much more..

but of course, everyone has their preferences...

I'm not implying that the pictures posted in here should've been only hugely built bodybuilders..

actually, my reply was to you, not moss. guess I was too slow in my reply :p

actually, my reply was to you, not moss. guess I was too slow in my reply :p

oh, no problem...

I just wanted to make my reply clear to those reading here..

about having Mark Wahlberg's, if you're reffering to him, I say he has a pretty good base...definitely doesn't seem too thin..

but I'd say that if you were to go a little bit thicker...what'd you say?

btw, doesn't Beckham play soccer? I read that you said he played "football"..lol

I guess I'd fall between the huge bodybuilding guys and the brad pitts with where I'd like to be. I guess I'd want to be like what someone else said when they said the Men's Health models. Big, but not clumsy looking. Btw, football=soccer everywhere in the world except America. ;-)

I guess I'd fall between the huge bodybuilding guys and the brad pitts with where I'd like to be. I guess I'd want to be like what someone else said when they said the Men's Health models. Big, but not clumsy looking. Btw, football=soccer everywhere in the world except America. ;-)

Wouldn't say that...football and soccer are totally different in australia too.

about having Mark Wahlberg's, if you're reffering to him, I say he has a pretty good base...definitely doesn't seem too thin..

but I'd say that if you were to go a little bit thicker...what'd you say?

Yeah, I guess Whalberg is the guy I'm referring to. Not sure what you mean by "but I'd say that if you were to go a little bit thicker", but personally, I don't want to go further down in bf than he is. Right now I am a bit thicker, and I wanna loose about 4-6 kg (9-13 lbs)

One month ago: http://forums.johnstonefitness.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=813&stc=1

One month ago: http://forums.johnstonefitness.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=813&stc=1

whoa, ok Duckman..haha, I forgot you were thicker than him...good man...make sure you retain all your muscle..g'luck!

More pics. Less talk :)

I wouldn't mind looking like this guy... no clue who he is.

Bill Davey..

http://www.bodybuilders.com/davey04.jpghttp://www.bodybuilders.com/davey.jpg


Frank Zane..

http://www.frankzane.com/images/Age35FZ.jpg http://www.frankzane.com/images/FZbeard.jpg
http://www.frankzane.com/images/fchug.jpg

Stallone..

http://www.badmouth.net/graphics/stallone.jpg http://film.onet.pl/_i/news/0107/stallone.jpg

Vin Diesel..the girls love this dude...

http://pages.infinit.net/vincerl/vindiesel/photos/146.jpg
http://pages.infinit.net/vincerl/vindiesel/photos/126.jpg
(Notice he's not skinny..but he's not cluttered with muscle either...he has a good base of a body for someone who would want to progress from there)
http://pages.infinit.net/vincerl/vindiesel/photos/68.jpg

...make sure you retain all your muscle..g'luck!

No. I'll make sure I get more :D

...
Vin Diesel..the girls love this dude...

(Notice he's not skinny..but he's not cluttered with muscle either...he has a good base of a body for someone who would want to progress from there)
http://pages.infinit.net/vincerl/vindiesel/photos/68.jpg

Vin Diesel never really came to mind, but yeah... good call.

Bloody great arms, in the proportion I'm looking for... plus he's got a bit of a moody expression, which is kind of my forté. All that's left is to shave my head.... hmm, maybe...

Vin Diesel never really came to mind, but yeah... good call.

Bloody great arms, in the proportion I'm looking for... plus he's got a bit of a moody expression, which is kind of my forté. All that's left is to shave my head.... hmm, maybe...

Better work on the voice too.... :whistle:

Better work on the voice too.... :whistle:

Yeah I need that to be a proper clone, LOL.

At least I won't need to take acting lessons though :D

HAHA...Imagine Vin with the voice of the late Ahmed Yassin (http://images.google.com/images?q=Ahmed%20Yassin&hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&safe=off&sa=N&tab=wi) :spaz: :p

Yassin really does look like Saruman :)

I think maybe my preferences for both my dream body and women I find most attractive are a bit unique on this board.

My dream woman is Monica Bellucci (Merovingian's wife in Matrix, Mary Magdalene in Passion, Melena). I wouldn't be surprised if she never works out- lots of jiggle all over, curves that never stop, and huge hips.

Though I'm now into fitness, I'm not that interested in particularly lean or muscular women. Maybe that will change since I've only been doing this for a month.

As for the body I would wish for:
http://trhs-wrestling.freeservers.com/images/goldberg.jpg
http://www.wrestlingmuseum.com/images/photos/goldberg-bill07.jpg
http://www.superiorwrestling.org/goldberg-signed.jpg

Yassin really does look like Saruman :)

No shit? :tu:

Take5

Did you go to an Goldberg autograph signing? I have that exact same picture when i went to one in Orlando 3-4 years ago whenever he was in WCW. Or was that just a picture you found on the net?

Just found it on the 'net. Never met the man in real life, as I don't actually follow wrestling. I just think he's impressive as hell.

Better work on the voice too.... :whistle:
/agree :whistle:

At least I won't need to take acting lessons though :D

:D LOL :d_biggrin

My choice for perfect woman is Laetitia Casta. She has some bodyfat on her and lots of curves. I'm pretty short 5'6.5 and I bet she's taller than I am... for some reason tall girls turn me on :)

http://www.laetitia-casta.subnet.dk/Casta012.jpg
http://www.laetitia-casta.subnet.dk/Casta011.jpg

For myself (male) ideally I would want to take my body as is, make it perfectly symmetrical, and then add about 25lbs of muscle and a couple lbs of fat.

Besides Goldberg's unproportional traps and not having too much lat there, I think he has a pretty nice physique..

Goldberg has just about zero tone, though. He's not cut at all.


As for Laetitia Casta, ummm..... I have to go... :D

Goldberg is Ex-atlanta falcons football full back, his whole goal in body building is to make himself huge so he can take the blows.

AJ

My ultimate goal would be to look something like this guy Eirik Kaaby from Norway:

Might be the angle, but he looks like he's got underdeveloped legs compared to his upper body...or maybe it's just me being used to look at my own, big-ass thighes and calves :confused:

He looks a little stiff :p

Might be the angle, but he looks like he's got underdeveloped legs compared to his upper body...or maybe it's just me being used to look at my own, big-ass thighes and calves :confused:

I think it's the camera angle. Stop always looking at your legs man, you're scaring me!

Laetitia Casta is gorgeous. A wonderful exception to models, who I usually do not like because they're so lanky. Her face is just amazingly seductive.

I know Goldberg isn't very cut, and that's why I like his physique. Like I said, it's a matter of taste. I personally don't really think all the bumps and such looks cool- it's impressive that someone has his body fat so low, and I certainly wouldn't complain if I had it, but it just looks confusing. Goldberg looks like a man who's built to perform, and that impresses me. Just a frightening and awe-inspiring presence without the comical appearance of some bodybuilders.

I also like him because I feel that I can eventually achieve that look. I think after I lose this awful fat I'll have similar proportions. But I'll never walk around in nothing but briefs and boots.

I have that same exact out fit....

He's wearing a leaf...hehe...anyway, he does seem to have a nice physique. Chest is kinda small though. Around what time period was he in? 20's, 30's?

He's wearing a leaf...hehe...

What's wrong with leafs? I wear them all the time..

:p

What's wrong with leafs? I wear them all the time..

:p

See...I'm not the only one who bought one....

I wouldnt mind looking like this

http://www.yourboymatt.net/main/14.jpg

http://www.yourboymatt.net/main/8.jpg

great arms and back.

Yea Freelance i'd definitely LOVE to look like that too...except that guy has a flat ass, obviously no squatting love :-(. I'd also like a better chest than that guy has, but i'm sure the ladies love his look.

What makes a males butt look attractive. I dont what excercise but is it a prefered to have a big one or a small one?

What makes a males butt look attractive. I dont what excercise but is it a prefered to have a big one or a small one?
Oooo, I bet this becomes a point of contention.

My opinion: I always called a round butt on a guy a "girl butt". I don't think that a guy's butt should be big enough to draw attention to itself. But if you happen to look at it, it should look toned--there should be some muscle there.

I can't believe I just typed a reply to a question about asses. :p

Well my b/f has a bubble butt and I think it's hot :)What makes a males butt look attractive. I dont what excercise but is it a prefered to have a big one or a small one?

Well my b/f has a bubble butt and I think it's hot :)

Squats and hamstring curls are good butt exercises. But I think the "bubble" butt may have more to do with genetics than anything. No matter how much lower body training I do, my ass is still flat as a board. :(

Mmmmm, the rounder the better... :drool: But not when its too big. I am a sucker for great legs. My pet peeve is these guys who work out and get all big and then have chicken legs! GRRRRRRRR :mad:

heres another pic of that guy, its a front view.

http://www.yourboymatt.net/main/13.jpg

his chest looks ok to me, its his arms that i want, they are a good size without being huge.

That guy is sortof my hero, since hes not really big, overall he actually seems to be an ectomorph, so i think thats something that i could attain.

In regards to chicken legs, dont hate the ectomoprhs =(.

I want to be Ladies Love Cool Jbroad572 :D I'd give anything for that. Maybe 2 years from now.

http://www.defjam.com/artists/llcoolj/html/gallery/2773-11502-114519.jpg

50 Cent cut too, another guy's body I would love to have
http://www.bet.com/images/flipbook/large/3rd_annual_awards_winners_yolanda_50_cent1.jpg

Any idea how much that right half of the picture weighs? I'm thinking 180 so I have 20 lbs to go!

How about Fawnia?
I think she's the perfect fitness model! :nod:

http://www.fawnia.com/gfx/portfolio/bikini/full/bikini_021_f.jpg http://www.fawnia.com/gfx/portfolio/bikini/full/bikini_061_f.jpg http://www.fawnia.com/gfx/portfolio/fitness/full/Fitness_011_f.jpg http://www.fawnia.com/gfx/portfolio/bikini/full/bikini_029_f.jpg http://www.fawnia.com/gfx/portfolio/fitness/full/Fitness_005_f.jpg

Is that enough muscle for you guys? :db:

Bad thoughts are going through my mind :tu:

Bad thoughts are going through my mind :tu: :drool: Ouch!

How about Fawnia?
I think she's the perfect fitness model! :nod:

http://www.fawnia.com/gfx/portfolio/bikini/full/bikini_021_f.jpg http://www.fawnia.com/gfx/portfolio/bikini/full/bikini_061_f.jpg http://www.fawnia.com/gfx/portfolio/fitness/full/Fitness_011_f.jpg http://www.fawnia.com/gfx/portfolio/bikini/full/bikini_029_f.jpg http://www.fawnia.com/gfx/portfolio/fitness/full/Fitness_005_f.jpg

Is that enough muscle for you guys? :db:


:drool:

Why do you guys quote the pics when you post? I dont think there is a need and all it does is make the thread longer. Anyway...to the point....maybe she is perfect for fitness model...but i prefer my women with less muscle....looks more feminine...for example i would much rather prefer our very own emma or trinity or chimchim....or offcoarse my girlfriend.

Actually....i changed my mind on her....her legs are yummy!...the upper body she has is too muscular for me....but her legs are simply perfect!....the lower body in general actually.

Her face is the real seller.

I actually think dogs have cutter faces than that....but that's my own opinion....i actually think her face adds to her masculinity.

Dogs as in the animal? or dogs as in the some person thats named Dogs?

She has the huge girl face as opposed to the bony small girl face but its attractive overall .

I actually think dogs have cutter faces than that....but that's my own opinion....i actually think her face adds to her masculinity.
Bro I'm sure if you saw this girl walking down the street you'd def try to work your game.

I brought her up because I think she's really fit, she competes and is in great shape, without being too muscular or looking like a guy.
Maybe her upper body is well developed, but she's not masculine, it's not like you would confuse her with a muscular guy. Yeah right, most likely you would :drool: for her than be afraid of her muscles.
Anyway she's 35-24-34, so what more do you want.

I think she looks great!



http://www.fawnia.com/gfx/portfolio/bikini/full/bikini_032_f.jpghttp://www.fawnia.com/gfx/portfolio/bikini/full/bikini_062_f.jpg
http://www.fawnia.com/gfx/portfolio/published/full/published_022_f.jpg
http://www.fawnia.com/gfx/portfolio/bikini/full/bikini_022_f.jpg

I dont want anything more, just her ;)

I dont want anything more, just her ;)
AHAHA!

She is beautiful...I love the shape of her face, it isn't "masculine" at all. It is a "Diamond" shape face, very nice :)

-Allen

Her abs are really big, but aside from that shes hot.

I agree her face is definitely not masculine. there is nothing wrong with her face. But, however I do prefer a more curvaceous woman, which she sort of has goin on but now really. No need to get that ripped, my opinion personally, a little fat goes a long way for women. I feel the same way for men. no need to get that ripped. But, again, just personal preference.

Her abs are really big, but aside from that shes hot.

HUH? I don't see it - I think a little more definition is a good look -

Post #315 . The picture in the black clothes.

I Have two choices on what i consider the perfect woman, Jennifer Garner and Charlize Theron

http://www.realm-o-tigger.com/tbwc/jennifergarner/GarnerScans1/garner_leatherskirt.jpg

and

http://www.the-alist.org/CharlizeTheron/pics/ct104.jpg

This how i look at them, Jennifer is the beautiful girl next door type while Charlize is the fantasy type girl. Both are so beautiful and sexy.

You know whats funny. That the "girl next door" type is never really next door :d_rolleye

I like jenniffer aniston though and shes the "girl next door type" so i shouldnt be one to judge it :rolleyes:

http://www.b-diamond.com/43475.jpg

Time for me to become a fan of swimming competitions.... :p

those girls you see in the pic above are not actually from TTU, they're cheerleaders for a team in Florida (the team is called the Storm, though I'm not sure what sport or league it is). Just look at how the TTU logos on their tops don't go with the curvature of their breasts.

oh wow, there is a logo on their chest... i didnt even see that, musta been focused on other things... ;-)

those girls you see in the pic above are not actually from TTU, they're cheerleaders for a team in Florida (the team is called the Storm, though I'm not sure what sport or league it is). Just look at how the TTU logos on their tops don't go with the curvature of their breasts.

DAMN! I plan on going to Texas Tech next year (more than likely will get accepted) and I was seriously hoping the girls looked like that!

Holy schnikes!!

http://www.aliciadenson.com/wickedpics/pages/wicked19_jpg.htm

I wouldn't mind having a body like that her abs are the one in the Eggbeaters ad and her derriere is the one in the Jergens firming lotion.

http://www.aliciadenson.com/wickedpics/pages/wicked19_jpg.htm

I wouldn't mind having a body like that her abs are the one in the Eggbeaters ad and her derriere is the one in the Jergens firming lotion.
I think she has a pretty ideal body. :tu:

http://www.jelenafit.com/pix/portfolio/1.jpg

Jelena -- Uber-babe.

i bet she has hair extensions or something...

ok ok, so she is 100% in shape and perfect, wow! she posts every so often at the bb.com forums...

Jelena = WOW!! :drool:

Bathing suit pic: example of lack of six pack that looks great in my opinion.

Second two pics: planning on getting this haircut on Monday.

Good choice on the haircut style, I really like the look of this haircut!

I don't see the six pack on her Freemason. I'm aiming for a six pack like Jelena's myself.

Hair extensions, no idea, but the left breast looks a little unnaturally orbic.

I don't see the six pack on her Freemason. I'm aiming for a six pack like Jelena's myself.
That was my point. Turlington doesn't have a six pack at all, but I think she looks good.

However, I'm still going for a six pack too. :)

And thanks, LaTouche. Hopefully my hairstylist can copy it exactly. :)

Like the haircut. But personally I think she is not tight enough around the stomach area.

Here is more Jelena. Someone asked me if she has had surgery to enhance the bust. Answer is: Yes, she does. I believe it is a personal choice for a lady to make on her own and Jelena would be an uber-babe just the same even without implants.

https://home.comcast.net/~allen.monroe/pinkretrobikini2.JPG

Is her right breast supposed to be like that? I think its facing the wrong direction to be her breast unless they defy the laws of gravity....or her breasts are the size of basketballs?

Is her right breast supposed to be like that? I think its facing the wrong direction to be her breast unless they defy the laws of gravity....or her breasts are the size of basketballs?

Well, like I said she has had surgery so I guess they do defy the laws of gravity. Here is the same outfit almost same pose but from the front.

You can see her body is twisted a little to her left, which would make her, umm, boob show.

Jelena:
https://home.comcast.net/~allen.monroe/pinkretrobikini3.JPG

Well, like I said she has had surgery so I guess they do defy the laws of gravity. Here is the same outfit almost same pose but from the front.

You can see her body is twisted a little to her left, which would make her, umm, boob show.

Jelena:


akm3, from where are you getting these pics? thx.

I'm amazed nobody has mentioned T.O.! This guy has one of the most incredible physiques I've ever seen.

http://maxmag.maxsportsinternational.com/performancecondition/issue36/curls.jpg

http://images.nfl.com/photos/teams/SF/img5838319.jpg

http://home.sandiego.edu/~dfannin/images/terrell-220x217-owens.jpg

http://www.maxsportsmag.com/performancecondition/issue36/legpresses.jpg


Here is a link to his diet & training regimen:
TO's workout & diet (http://www.maxsportsmag.com/performancecondition/issue36/36pc1.htm)

Damn, I wish I had those arms. :db:

Hang on, I should say 'I cant wait until I have arms like that' :nod: :)

Marcus :cool:

The pics below are 2 two of Paul Licuria and 1 of Craig Ellis.

They are both Australian Rules Football players and I think they have almost ideal physiques. A good amount of muscle but not too much to make them look bulky, low bf, balanced proportions and they are extremely fit and healthy. And these physiques are achievable for the average joe. Sure its a hell of a lot of work but you dont have to take roids or go to the extreme that some BBs go to whom many people aspire to.

Didn't realise you were an Aussie marcus...have to agree on the physiques...being a bombers fan I am after adam mcphee's look...although I am a bit shorter than him.

I didnt realise McPhee has such a good physique. He has a good amount of muscle mass for a tall guy.

Its funny that you barrack for the Dons, I go for Geeeeelong! Yeah! good win that one. I'm not getting too cocky though because knowing Geelong we could now go on to lose every game for the remainder of the season :rolleyes:

Marcus :cool:

McFee looks good. I want to have a similar physique. And i am 6'5". His arms are perfect size (not too big, not too small). I really want to have that lump/discontinuity that many people have at the waist region on the sides. I would assume that is just well shaped obliques.

Damn you marcus, I was there...weith my girlfriend who is a geelong supporter....that hurt a lot

This is my goal, to have the Frank Shamrock bod- he fluctuates between 192-199. My guess is his BF is about 9%, sound about right? I am 190 already at the same height as him but with higher bodyfat. I have to trade some fat for muscle ;)

http://www.miamihost.net/ims/u/BigRedCat/Pics/FS_CastingShadow_pic.jpg
http://www.miamihost.net/ims/u/BigRedCat/Pics/shamrock_02.jpg
http://www.miamihost.net/ims/u/BigRedCat/Pics/Sham_jpg.jpg

I don't get you guys that want to look like Brad Pitt or Beckham, are you serious? Even in Troy Brad looks small if you ask me. He has puny arms. Even Vin "Chickenlegs" Diesel lords over him in size. Just don't eat and you'll look just like Brad! Those guys are just skinny, I don't see aspiring to that.

Here is Christian from T-Mag, he is 5'8" I think -Good size on him.
http://www.miamihost.net/ims/u/BigRedCat/Pics/11.jpg

Frank Shamrock rules! I hope he comes back from his hiatus soon!

However, the ideal body is in the eye of the beholder. Many people think Brad Pitt to have the ideal body-type. Others think he's too skinny. It's a matter of personal preference. Personally, I think guys like Christian from T-Mag are a little too muscular for my own aspirations, but again, that's my opinion. But he's got an impressive physique nonetheless.

F. Shamrock is an amazing athlete-very strong but quick and flexible too. The other guy above looks a bit too much like a bodybuilder for my liking. Those Aussie Football players looked to have what I would call the 'ideal' physique.

I think we can all agree that it's not worth having huge amounts of mass if you're musclebound because of it. The idea of weights is to enhance health, not to make you a prisoner in your own overdeveloped body.

Luckily, or unluckily depending on who you are, it's really hard to get 'too muscular' without the juice.

And I disagree that Brad Pitt has skinny arms-every freaking gossip magazine out there has done a piece on his upper body. His legs are still pretty thin but that's why they have body doubles. The pipes are pretty good tho.

Brad is nothing special. My arms are bigger than his and I haven't been able to lift for a month and I don't consider myself "big". Also, I think you have the wrong idea about being "musclebound". Christian is about 210 in that pic. Not at all too big in my opinion. Some of the guys in mixed martial arts competition such as Pride and UFC are 220 pounds and hardly musclebound. If Pitt is your idea of a perfect bod then more power to you but personally I think Brad is nothing special. Same goes for Ed Norton, Beckham and any other scrawyn famous guy that people think is "muscular". Oh and by the way, Shamrock is coming back to fight pretty soon. I chatted with him the other day about it. He is waiting for the right time to pick his fight. Should be good!!

Here is how "huge" Brad is, sorry,but if you think this is "huge" you have problems:
http://www.miamihost.net/ims/u/BigRedCat/Pics/pitt.jpg
and here is another of Braddy Boy:
Oh my what a stud. haha.
http://www.miamihost.net/ims/u/BigRedCat/Pics/pitt-2-11-28.jpg

Brad is nothing special. My arms are bigger than his and I haven't been able to lift for a month and I don't consider myself "big". Also, I think you have the wrong idea about being "musclebound". Christian is about 210 in that pic. Not at all too big in my opinion. [...] If Pitt is your idea of a perfect bod then more power to you but personally I think Brad is nothing special. Same goes for Ed Norton, Beckham and any other scrawyn famous guy that people think is "muscular".

Being muscular and big are all based on opinion. There's no magic number that when reached automatically elevates your adjective.

When I reach 150 I'm certainly not going to be only semi-scrawny.


sorry,but if you think this [Pitt] is "huge" you have problems

You're skewing what most people are saying.

No one is saying that Brad Pitt is huge - an intensely muscular beast of a man. Most people would qualify him as ripped, and that definition is coming from his Fight Club role not the worst picture you can find of him in a dress.

Brad is defined, well-proportioned (from the waist up at least), and has enough muscle to show he has strength but not that weight-training is his life. He has an athletic build.

No one is saying that Brad Pitt is huge - an intensely muscular beast of a man. Most people would qualify him as ripped, and that definition is coming from his Fight Club role not the worst picture you can find of him in a dress.

Brad is defined, well-proportioned (from the waist up at least), and has enough muscle to show he has strength but not that weight-training is his life. He has an athletic build.

Agreed. Not all guys aspire to be "huge" or "ripped". Many aim to be fit, athletic, and with enough muscularity to be strong and defined. It's all about personal preference. For instance, I think John has a great physique, despite the fact that he's been unable to train his upper body for a while -- even though others may feel he's too skinny.

By the way, Frank Shamrock looks to be more like 7-8% body fat. I can't see any fat on the guy. Even his face is ripped.

Too much talk of "Big" and "Ripped" men, here is more Jelena.

https://home.comcast.net/~allen.monroe/redbreak4.JPG


You're welcome!

-Allen

Here's a pic of a guy who think I fit is very fit and athletic (brown shorts). I aspire to have his physique, quickness, and agility. He's one of the most stylish & charismatic of the new school of fighters today.

http://sportsnavi.yahoo.co.jp/fight/k1/live/200405/22/photo/a05/pict/pict04.jpg

http://sportsnavi.yahoo.co.jp/fight/k1/live/200405/22/photo/a05/pict/pict07.jpg

He's also the only MMA fighter to combine kickboxing, jiu-jitsu, and BREAKDANCING:

GENKI SUDO SHORT HIGHLIGHT (http://www.cgi101.com/~digg97/genki-sudo.wmv)

What sport were they doing?
Was it kickboxing?
If so where are the foot pads and head guards?

Totally with you on this one....

Brad is nothing special. My arms are bigger than his and I haven't been able to lift for a month and I don't consider myself "big". Also, I think you have the wrong idea about being "musclebound". Christian is about 210 in that pic. Not at all too big in my opinion. Some of the guys in mixed martial arts competition such as Pride and UFC are 220 pounds and hardly musclebound. If Pitt is your idea of a perfect bod then more power to you but personally I think Brad is nothing special. Same goes for Ed Norton, Beckham and any other scrawyn famous guy that people think is "muscular". Oh and by the way, Shamrock is coming back to fight pretty soon. I chatted with him the other day about it. He is waiting for the right time to pick his fight. Should be good!!

Here is how "huge" Brad is, sorry,but if you think this is "huge" you have problems:
http://www.miamihost.net/ims/u/BigRedCat/Pics/pitt.jpg
and here is another of Braddy Boy:
Oh my what a stud. haha.
http://www.miamihost.net/ims/u/BigRedCat/Pics/pitt-2-11-28.jpg

He's also the only MMA fighter to combine kickboxing, jiu-jitsu, and BREAKDANCIN

Genki Sudo is a champ :tucool:

It was a good win against Royler Gracie.
He and Sakuraba are my favourite fighters.

Also, Bump on Frank Shamrock's physique :tu:

Marcus :cool:

What sport were they doing?
Was it kickboxing?
If so where are the foot pads and head guards?

It's called MMA - Mixed Martial Arts - basically the closest thing to no-holds barred fighting. Ultimate Fighting Championship is usually the first thing that comes to mind when it comes to this sport (in the US). But there are others like Pride Fighting and Pancrase.

Too much talk of "Big" and "Ripped" men, here is more Jelena.

You're welcome!

-Allen

Thank you :tu:

I must have missed where people admiring Brad's physique commented on how "huge" he is. :confused:

Not everyone is about size. Brad's body, like has been said, is the ideal for anyone wanting to be ripped but not wanting to look like a bodybuilder.

Brad is nothing special. My arms are bigger than his and I haven't been able to lift for a month and I don't consider myself "big". Also, I think you have the wrong idea about being "musclebound". Christian is about 210 in that pic. Not at all too big in my opinion. Some of the guys in mixed martial arts competition such as Pride and UFC are 220 pounds and hardly musclebound. If Pitt is your idea of a perfect bod then more power to you but personally I think Brad is nothing special. Same goes for Ed Norton, Beckham and any other scrawyn famous guy that people think is "muscular".

Also if you're trying to look ripped to get girls, being body-builder huge can be a little problematic.

If you look as if you can break a woman's tooth-pick arms (compared to yours at least!) into a thousand little pieces, you could be a little unapproachable.

Not too many women -- that I know, at least -- are looking for that macho-man that can protect her from all peril. As an independent and competent person, she may be looking for back-up rather than a bouncer.

If I had a physique similar to Brad Pitt's I would be very happy, that is similar to what I am aiming for.

I have a pretty small build (6'2", 165lbs, 6.25" wrists and 29" waist) and feel that being big wouldn't suit my frame at all.

I would like to put a bit of mass on my chest and arms, but I would rather have low body fat than size.

Brad is nothing special. My arms are bigger than his and I haven't been able to lift for a month and I don't consider myself "big". Also, I think you have the wrong idea about being "musclebound". Christian is about 210 in that pic. Not at all too big in my opinion. Some of the guys in mixed martial arts competition such as Pride and UFC are 220 pounds and hardly musclebound. If Pitt is your idea of a perfect bod then more power to you but personally I think Brad is nothing special. Same goes for Ed Norton, Beckham and any other scrawyn famous guy that people think is "muscular".
Here is how "huge" Brad is, sorry,but if you think this is "huge" you have problems:


A few comments since I think you were responding to my post.

1. I never implied that Brad Pitt was huge. In fact, quite the opposite, I was trying to make the point that 'huge' isn't most people's goal. And his arms do look pretty good-in both pictures-unless you're really into lifting and have 16 inch plus pipes.

2. While it is true that lots of MMA fighters have a bodybuilder's look while remaining agile, I still think they're somewhat musclebound. Take a guy like Mark Kerr, who was an absolute monster fighting at about 6'3" and 260. He was strong and agile as a wrestler and fighter, but as he put it himself "at that time I didn't walk, I waddled". His build was suited for the ring and for submission fighting but is that the truest measure of athleticism? When your traps and lats become so developed that your arms are harder to move, that makes you a better fighter -because you have obvious strength and your opponent can't manipulate your limbs as easily. But the downside is when a guy like that, or Mark Coleman, or Ken Shamrock, wants to throw a baseball or swing a golf club or run a 10K, he's at a disadvantage. Even some of the great baseball players have become musclebound - like Barry Bonds and Jason Giambi was last year before he lost weight. Yes they're hitting towering bombs, but they can't throw, field, run, or catch as well because they're starting to look like bodybuilders or NFL lineman.

You may think that my ideal athlete is too skinny, but I think your ideal athlete is too thick. To me, a true athlete is built to survive the conditions that humans were subject to for the majority of our evolution. In the wild, a bodybuilder would be a prime target for a hungry predator-the survivors would be able to run great distances without tiring, throw a spear accurately, climb and mountains without breaking an ankle, and be able to fend off attackers when he got home from the hunt. The beefed up athlete that you aspire to be is at his best in the weight room, in a cage grappling another individual, or at the kitchen table eating one of his required 6 large daily meals.

When I was younger I wanted to be huge and cut up too-but I've since changed my perspective on the ideal physique.

In the end, everything I believe is just that-my personal belief. Everyone is entitled to their own opinion, and I still have a lot of respect for the work that goes into getting huge. Hell I'm still in the weight room 4 or 5 times a week so don't get me wrong.

3. How did you end up talking to F. Shamrock? That's pretty cool-he's a good guy from the interviews that I've read.

Again I'll post my favorite MMA fighter and my idea of the ideal all-around athlete. He will not be mistaken as a bodybuilder, but he's still very strong and well put together:


Bas Rutten
http://www.sportsmachines.net/MMA/MMA pics/baskick.jpg http://www.sportsmachines.net/MMA/MMA pics/baskick2.jpg
http://www.sportsmachines.net/MMA/MMA pics/baspalmstrike.jpg http://www.sportsmachines.net/MMA/MMA pics/basrutten.jpg
http://www.sportsmachines.net/MMA/MMA pics/basruttenpunch.jpg
http://www.sportsmachines.net/MMA/MMA pics/ruttenkick.jpg

Bas is my second favorite fighter. Great guy too. Randy Couture is the man right now in my opinion. Super stand up guy, I wish more fighters were like him. He has respect and is a good old fashioned American. Bas does a great job hosting Pride, I hope he continues with that. No I wasn't directing the Pitt being "huge" topic at you, I read that earlier in this thread. All I am saying is Pitt is nothing special. I could care less about "getting" girls, I have one and besides I am a singer/guitar player in my band. Never had problems getting girls. I work out for me not for what others think about me. I want size simply because I think that is advantageous, if you want to aspire to a smaller thinner size more power to you. As long as your happy and healthy why not go for it. As for athletes, remember, the average NFL player is a big boy and hardly unflexible. You have to stretch, that's all. People like the Rock are huge and not at all encumbered by their size. It is those jacked up roid monsters you see ocassionaly that are what you would call "musclebound". Some muscleheads don't really stretch and become unflexible, in which case yes they are limited in that regard. Size for the sake of size makes no sense. I am talking about size for strength and power, size for function. You'd be surprised how many huge guys aren't that strong. I see guys at the gym that are twice my size using the same weights I do for a lot of exercises. Its odd. I recall reading a Mike Mentzer article regarding this as well. Lots of guys can get large but don't gain much strength. It seems absurd to be huge and not that strong.

As for female perfection, I would have to say Laetitia Casta is the most perfect female alive.

Couture whipped Tito and Chuck Liddell so he's the best light heavyweight if you ask me-but I'd love to see him fight Vanderlei or Noguiera.

I think Bas still trains people at Beverly Hills Jiu-Jitsu and yeah I like him on the Pride telecasts but can rarely watch them since of course it's all f*cking PayPerView.

Hopefully someday it'll be on ESPN. I mean they're showing K-1 and World's Strongest Men but they won't show MMA? Don't they know the kind of ratings they would get?

I guess I'm off topic-maybe I'll start an MMA thread.

Re: Brad Pitt "debate"


You must also remember that size is all relative. For myself, having ~12.5 inch arms and ~34 inch chest, I would be quite happy with having pitt's arms and chest. I'm already a slim individual, but I store all my fat in the abdominal/glute area. Once I slim down to sub 10% I will be pretty thin. So, a physique like brad's would be quite an improvement over my current lean mass.

Also, I am a basketball player, so a quicker, lighter, but equally strong and explosive physique is more useful to me.

And I won't lie. I already have very good luck with the girls, but a great body would be just another weapon in my arsenal for the women. Anyone who says they aren't getting in shape for the opposite sex, even if it is to a small extent, is most likely not telling the full truth.

2. While it is true that lots of MMA fighters have a bodybuilder's look while remaining agile...

Awesome post, Nico. Glad to see that there are other MMA fans in this forum.

Bas has a great physique and is very powerful for a man his size. In his heyday, Bas was definitely the man. If that's the kind of physique and athleticism you're striving for, I give you props.

As for me, I think Genki suits my frame better. I'd love to be as smooth, agile, and expressive with his fighting as him.

MMA rocks :tu:

I could care less about "getting" girls, I have one and besides I am a singer/guitar player in my band. Never had problems getting girls.

Just so you know, I wasn't insinuating you or anyone can't. From the perspective of a 17 year old, girls are a rather important thing. ;)

And, honestly, a nice physique only helps in initially attracting their interest. I should have made that clear in my original post; I wrote as if a woman will stay with you because you are simply jacked, which isn't the case. The majority of the time they won't even see your body, only your face, lower legs, and lower arms - so, in the worst (best?) case scenario, they'll have a pleasant suprise. Like SmoothBaller has said its just another weapon in one's aresenal.

Anyone who says they aren't getting in shape for the opposite sex, even if it is to a small extent, is most likely not telling the full truth.

You're 19. We don't all live in that world anymore.

However, none of the women I know would complain that a guy with Brad Pitt's physique is out of shape.

Don't get me wrong, a great bod is obviously important to get chicks, but I can tell you this- WHO you are is more important. I know tons of jacked guys who are morons or simply lack any personality and they are not getting chicks of any quality. Learn to dance and you'll get more chicks than your body alone will get you. Just being thin is enough for most girls.

Yeah I loved seeing Tito's punk ass getting whipped, I hate Tito, he is such a jackass. He is the classic Kalifornia bro-dude idiot poser. Liddell gave him a beat down big time too. Vanderlai is my fav fighter as far as guys who ARE fighting. He strikes me as some kind of demon. Imagine an army of vandelai's with OICW's!!
Bas is supposed to make a comeback as well. That would be cool. He is involved with Krav Maga now too. I have studied martial arts my whole life but I'll tell ya, once I started learning John Perkins system I realized it puts others to shame. MMA isn't for street fighting. You can't grapple on the streets. As much as I LOVE watching MMA I am more into training for combat fighting now. You should just cough up the dough for the shows man, they are worth it. The last UFC was pretty good. I tape them all. The next Pride will rock too.
OK, since we sort of sidetracked this thread, here is a "perfect bod" to make up for it:
http://www.miamihost.net/ims/u/BigRedCat/Pics/bell1.jpg

... From the perspective of a 17 year old, girls are a rather important thing. ;) i heard a great quote the other day ::

"gotta have (bicep) peaks to get those freaks!"

im glad im married, as my motivation for working out is 100% different than our single board members, but whatever the motivation, its good people are getting off their asses and into the gym! thats all that matters

You're 19. We don't all live in that world anymore.

However, none of the women I know would complain that a guy with Brad Pitt's physique is out of shape.

So, am I wrong in assuming that people with significant others don't consider getting in shape a nice bonus for whomever they are involved with?

I know that during relationships I get somewhat excited to look better for my current girlfriend and it's equally exciting when they notice the changes in your body and are happy about your progress.

You don't have to be single to reap the benefits of looking better for the opposite sex. That person of the opposite sex may just be your significant other rather than the other sex in general.

Also, I am not sure how you meant to come across, but please don't insult me and draw false conclusions about myself because of my age.

So, am I wrong in assuming that people with significant others don't consider getting in shape a nice bonus for whomever they are involved with?
A nice bonus, yes. A motivation (which was your original claim), not necessarily. Plus, there's a big time difference between having a serious boyfriend or girlfriend and actually being married, so that has a strong effect on a person's perspective.

For me, appearance was a motivation in the beginning. But not because I thought my husband would find me more attractive. (He's always found me plenty attractive.) I was motivated by what I thought of my appearance. Also, after a certain point of getting in shape, I think many people are pretty much happy with how they look, so it's not really a motivation after that. At that point the motivation is made up of other things like increased athleticism.

Also, I am not sure how you meant to come across, but please don't insult me and draw false conclusions about myself because of my age.
She wasn't insulting you. She's just pointing out that appearance is obviously going to be a much bigger deal for a single 19 year old than a married 30 year old with a family.

I expect my significant other to keep themselves looking hot just as I am expected to do the same. It can be tough staying in shape but you have to have enough respect for yourself and for your mate to keep yourself attractive. Working out is good for you not matter what your reasons.

Freemason, your a cutie. ;)
What are your goals as far as working out? Are you trying to get leaner or gain muscle?

You'll find my goals here. (http://forums.johnstonefitness.com/showthread.php?t=5136)

I want to be able to do certain things more than look a certain way.

Here's a truly perfect body. I don't have a prayer of ever being even remotely close to as athletic as she is, but she's certainly inspirational.

Jackie Joyner-Kersee:

Like Munoir and jkjk wrote on page four, I'm going to have to give Christian Bale in "American Psycho" another plug. He has my ideal body.

One has to watch the movie to see what we are really talking about. I'd post screen caps from the DVD, but isn't that illegal? (If not, I'll get right on that.)

Like Munoir and jkjk wrote on page four, I'm going to have to give Christian Bale in "American Psycho" another plug. He has my ideal body.

One has to watch the movie to see what we are really talking about. I'd post screen caps from the DVD, but isn't that illegal? (If not, I'll get right on that.)

Not sure if it is legal or not, but if it is I won't tell anybody. ;) I have the movie, but wouldn't mind having a few of the screen caps - especially the ones that show his whole upper body physique from like the hipbones up - I think it is when he is standing in front of the mirror?

Smoothballer, your statement sounded like a sweeping generalization. I'm just not sure it applies as deeply as you think it does. Sorry it sounded like I was insulting. Freemason, you're right inside my brain. EXACTLY every word you said is what I meant. I want to look good for me. If I end up looking great to other people, including my husband, that's a nice bonus, but it's not what motivates me.

That's an incredibly perfect body you posted Freemason. :tu:

Smoothballer, your statement sounded like a sweeping generalization. I'm just not sure it applies as deeply as you think it does. Sorry it sounded like I was insulting. Freemason, you're right inside my brain. EXACTLY every word you said is what I meant. I want to look good for me. If I end up looking great to other people, including my husband, that's a nice bonus, but it's not what motivates me.

That's an incredibly perfect body you posted Freemason. :tu:

No problem guava! As they say in basketball: no harm, no foul. It's evident that we both had some slight miswordings in our posts that were interpreted in the wrong way.

I was trying to convey something more along the lines of when a person of the opposite sex or significant other comments on your weight loss or new physique that makes you feel good and then consequently, gives you an added boost of confidence and motivation to keep up with a healthy lifestyle. In my head I was trying to convey the opposite sex adding to your motivation; not being the primary reason you are motivated. I hope that all makes sense.
:tu:

Nice

American Psycho:

chicanerous: can you get a screen capture of one of the shots that show his whole midsection with abs? Also, how exactly do you take the screen captures? I was wondering how, but last time I tried to figure it out I couldn't get it to work.

I'm using DVD X Player Pro which allows me to take screen-shots.

HEHE that guy is just sooo sick, but yeah I admit there are alot of cool things about him, not least his well maintained physique and great deal of self confidence :p

I just saw this dude in the new FHM. Apparently he is supposed to be the next Mr. Olympia. He won the Arnold Classic and now is trying to dethrone Ronnie Coleman. Crazy. Jay Cutler:

http://tinyurl.com/2zc47

You've never seen Jay Cutler before???

I am not really a body building fan. I watch it if it is on TV and whatnot but I like the natural bodybuilders better. It just seems a little too excessive when everyone is enormous and jacked like that from using all those supplements and drugs. Natural is the way to go.

Agreed, I don't care for the big freak look either. I'll just stay at my 200 lb mark and be happy :)

As far as pro bodybuilders go, look no further than Dexter Jackson:

As far as pro bodybuilders go, look no further than Dexter Jackson:

HOLY ROIDS :spaz:

As far as pro bodybuilders go, look no further than Dexter Jackson:

thats just nasty if you ask me :confused:

I think it's amazing that the human body can be taken to that level. I mean, you can study this guys in Biology class instead of those plastic cut-outs. That being said, I just don't think it's something I would do, that is if I could do it. :lol:

You also need to have the right doctor putting you on the right cure. :)

I think it's amazing that the human body can be taken to that level. I mean, you can study this guys in Biology class instead of those plastic cut-outs. That being said, I just don't think it's something I would do, that is if I could do it. :lol:

My wife's contribution is Marlon Brando in A Streetcar Named Desire. My own is Kristia Knowles ...

thats just nasty if you ask me :confused:


i def. agree that that look is nasty to me; however, the dedication these guys put into working out far surpasses anything u or I or any1 on this board does. Granted, thier life is based around eating, sleeping, and training, but to simply say that steriods/drugs give them that look is absurd. There are many examples of ppl who take these drugs and see minimal results, b/c they still dont work out as hard.

PS, check out Ronnie COleman, arguably the Best BB of all time in terms of pure size.

As far as pro bodybuilders go, look no further than Dexter Jackson

I have to say that that is simply amazing, though far larger than I would ever hope, want, or could be.

Also, check out the size of this guy's (http://www.bodybuilders.com/ahmahm.htm) abs (10 years of training though, heh):

Check it out

He is a real Champion.


http://www.biofitnet.com/files/rob11gbig.jpg

Oscar, that is awesome :bow:

I'm also voting Vin Diesel. He's big, simmetric and he's not TOO big. I don't like BB's body... but that's my opinion :P

My goal is to have a body like Carol Grow. Her face is beautiful too.

Check it out

He is a real Champion.



Wow. Just wow.

Also, check out the size of this guy's (http://www.bodybuilders.com/ahmahm.htm) abs (10 years of training though, heh):

Wow... now that is a RIPPED 6 pack....

My goal is to have a body like Carol Grow. Her face is beautiful too.

Your face is better then her face, seriously.

-Allen

Your face is better then her face, seriously.

-Allen

Im with allen on this one

Im with allen on this one

I don't think you guys haven't seen the right pictures of Carol Grow. Emma is a beautiful woman. Carol Grow is... outstanding, she's one of my favorite fitness models. A perfect balance of beauty and fitness. Not too muscular... not too soft... just right.

http://www.muscletech.com/PROFILES/CAROL_GROW/IMAGES/ATH_CaGrow_Wallpaper2_1024.jpg

She does indeed look great in that pick! :eek:

Your face is better then her face, seriously.

-Allen
I am also with Allen on this one.

I am also with Allen on this one.

Me too....and I'm known to be extremely picky :whistle:

I have to say that that is simply amazing, though far larger than I would ever hope, want, or could be.

Also, check out the size of this guy's (http://www.bodybuilders.com/ahmahm.htm) abs (10 years of training though, heh):

You know you have great abs when they cast their own shadow, those are insane :bow:

bump

thats just nasty if you ask me

believe what you want, but I wanna know...how is it nasty in any way?

Too much talk of "Big" and "Ripped" men, here is more Jelena.

https://home.comcast.net/~allen.monroe/redbreak4.JPG


You're welcome!

-Allen

"Hey guys Im back . I won Pro Figure"
Just thought I'd pop an in an update to this post. Jelena just won the Pro Fitness class in her meet last week.

Looks like all the other pics I've seen in here are from her site. I don't think she's posted her win on there as of yet.

http://forum.bodybuilding.com/photo/showphoto.php?photo=12023&size=big&password=&sort=1&cat=last7

I would love to look like this woman...wow
I love her abs! :nod:

Damn I thought the pic would come up. I dont know how to do that, sorry!! :confused:

Damn I thought the pic would come up. I dont know how to do that, sorry!! :confused:

Here you go..and honestly..I'd love to have abs like this girl too :D

http://forum.bodybuilding.com/photo/data/501/553591.jpg

Sry to rain on everybodies parade... being a fairly decent imige editor i must tell people that several of those pictures (including those in fitness magazines) are edited... im sry to ruin the fantasies of those who look up to the fakes.... and lets not forget also all those that are real and on roids!!! Dont think that because one person looks one way you need to, chances are you are already a beautiful person and just dont see it!

a friend of mine works at Playboy in Chicago, and says that the images BEFORE they hit the "digital airbrush" group look WAY different than those that come out afterward... they make girls look way different!

with that said, its rare that ANY photos hit a magazine untouched...

Sry to rain on everybodies parade... being a fairly decent imige editor i must tell people that several of those pictures (including those in fitness magazines) are edited... im sry to ruin the fantasies of those who look up to the fakes.... and lets not forget also all those that are real and on roids!!! Dont think that because one person looks one way you need to, chances are you are already a beautiful person and just dont see it!


which one do u think are on roids??? That is a big accusation to make. Also, dont think for one second that roids make a person big. They give u the POTENtial yes, but if ur a lazy ass with a sorry routine, diet, and ethic, u arent going anywhere except to the surgeon to get ur boobs removed.

There are quite a large number of people in fitness mags that are on roids... they are like pro wrestlers... when they are in their speedos notice there is not even a tiny buldge

There are quite a large number of people in fitness mags that are on roids... they are like pro wrestlers... when they are in their speedos notice there is not even a tiny buldge
What the hell relevance does that have? Perhaps if you were at all educated on the matter, you'd know that the only 'size' caveat from steroid use is temporary testicular atrophy from your body's natural testosterone production being stopped. Contrary to what the media would have you believe, your penis will not shrink and upon stopping use of AAS your testicles will likely rebound to their normal size and function. You cannot tell if a person is using "roids" based on the bulge in their speedos, as you so eloquently put it. Inferiority complex anyone?

You should do some research before you say such stupid remarks....

got to reply before i did, good way to put it bro

There is nothing wrong with striving for exelence!
Yes people are airbrushed genetically superior have a lot of time and money to spend on fitness, but there is no harm in trying.
As for the roids, after a roid cycle people now always do a pct which kick the testes back into action and allows them to return to their original size. You cant tell if someone has used roids because there are no visual clues that directly link to using steroids.

Some people might find this stupid like my wife :rolleyes: , but when I went and seen spiderman 2 this last weekend, I was like DAMN... I like his physic. I can't find any good pictures from the movie yet, but I'm talking about spiderman in the suit.... NOT toby maquire.


If you haven't seen the movie yet, keep this in mind and you'll see what I'm talking about.

Maybe I'm just being retarted... i dunno
These Pictures dont do the physic justice thats in the movie.

http://spiderman.sonypictures.com/downloads/wallpapers/files/sacrifice_800.jpg

http://spiderman.sonypictures.com/downloads/wallpapers/files/choice_800.jpg

http://IndySiteDesign.com/spiderman.jpg

I have to go with Vin Diesel also. Also bumping the thread. ;)

hey all,

lets see what type of body people are aiming for.. you know, the type you see on some, actors, body builders, athletes..

the ones you say, "dang! this is the body im aiming for"

so go ahead, post some pix..

heres one to start it off..

:tu: :tu:


I would love to look li,kme Anthony Ellis :)

Personally, I don't want to be too thin or too muscular. I don't want that fitness model look at all. I'd like to be fairly toned, but I don't want to see too much definition (so I'm probably not going to aim for a very low BF%). I happen to think that Jennifer Garner has the best muscle tone without looking ripped. Everything on her is tight, so she still looks feminine. She has a totally different body type from mine, though. So as far as inspiration goes, I turn to Beyonce Knowles. I'm not really a fan of the music, but I'll admit that she is one very hot woman.

We share a body type: smaller on top with a narrow waist (at least, that's how I used to be!), big booty, long and strong legs. I'm also around the same height. The only difference is that I have to take this darn 'fat suit' (as I now call it) off before I can look anything like that.

I was never a fan of Brady Anderson but his physique was awsome:

Rambo!!!

My Goal: achievable and not too unrealistic.

http://www.patcarroll.com/wow.jpg http://www.patcarroll.com/bicep.jpg

Pat Carroll, Personal Trainer/Former BB. :tu:

supirman is that you? My ex drools over this pic. Perfect 10 in my opinion.

Wow, very impressive. Too bad about the nipple piercings.

Some people might find this stupid like my wife :rolleyes: , but when I went and seen spiderman 2 this last weekend, I was like DAMN... I like his physic. I can't find any good pictures from the movie yet, but I'm talking about spiderman in the suit.... NOT toby maquire.


If you haven't seen the movie yet, keep this in mind and you'll see what I'm talking about.

Maybe I'm just being retarted... i dunno
These Pictures dont do the physic justice thats in the movie.



ummm... that IS Tobey Maguire in the suit and the suit is like skin tight and has no muscle enhancements to my knowledge. What you see is Tobey.

I'd be pleased as hell with either of these physiques. :tu:

ummm... that IS Tobey Maguire in the suit and the suit is like skin tight and has no muscle enhancements to my knowledge. What you see is Tobey.

I.. Hmm... I remember reading articles from my local paper (Sure, we make fun of it all the time, but only because it isn't so nearly the best source of information (except for local news)) back when Spider-man 1 came out about how a kid from Grand Haven, Michigan was the stunt double (and the guy in the spidey suit)...

But maybe things have changed. Or I misremember. I can research some later, but right now, I've got 13 (double column, small font size, large page size) pages of Shakespeare background to read. Maybe I'll make it through and read all of it.


Jeff.

this guy is jacked

I.. Hmm... I remember reading articles from my local paper (Sure, we make fun of it all the time, but only because it isn't so nearly the best source of information (except for local news)) back when Spider-man 1 came out about how a kid from Grand Haven, Michigan was the stunt double (and the guy in the spidey suit)...

But maybe things have changed. Or I misremember. I can research some later, but right now, I've got 13 (double column, small font size, large page size) pages of Shakespeare background to read. Maybe I'll make it through and read all of it.


Jeff.


I'm not denying there is a stunt double, but other than some of the times where he is getting tossed around or maybe doing some of the acrobatics, it's Tobey. I heard him describe on Oprah how tedious the process of fitting the suit was and then how hot it was to wear it since it was literally intended to be as skin tight as possible.

lol somebody made the pic i posted their avatar

He almost blew his hat off :p

its gotta be randy orton

http://www.dunin.org/adam_misc/randywmx8.jpg

Adam

wow didn't see this one yet -.-
there are a few people who inspire me who were posted before
henry rollins, LL cool J
but someone else is missing:
MR. T, i pity the fool... his body shape in rocky 3 is just great. http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0001558/photogallery
although vingh rahmes http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0000609/photogallery or wesley snipes http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0000648/photogalleryare pretty cool. they are neither over the hook(roids) nor tiny. just strong & big fellas.

This is my goal. :tu:

We need more women in this thread!!! The lovely Brittany Daniel

http://wywnh1.home.att.net/B/BrittanyD/BrittanyD2.jpg

http://users.skynet.be/humor/brittany08.jpg

The lovely Brittany Daniel

She tops my list of people I would beg/borrow/cheat/steal for a half hour with. But she's much tighter than those pictures now. See Club Dread yet? All I gotta say is... wow.

I definately saw Club Dread, that is when I became smitten!!

I just saw her in White Chicks as well, she didn't show as much flesh but she would look amazing in a winter parka and snowpants in the middle of a blizzard, if you ask me!!!

And did you know that Brittany Daniel has a twin sister, Cynthia?

And did you know that Brittany Daniel has a twin sister, Cynthia?

>Insert any imaginable and unimaginable twin fantasy here<

i'm as straight as the day is long, but i must confess brad pitt has one heck of a perfect body. That's exactly how i want to look.

hahahaa i used to say that all the time... 'im comfortable enough with my heterosexuality that brad pitt is one hell of a sexy man.'

i too would like a body like him in fightclub. ha i wish we could find his measurements and everything at that time.

i gotta agree that brad pitt is damn good in fight club and especialy in troy i jsut watched it last ngiht and wow he is pumped anyway another body which i reckon is damn good is the rock in scorpion king...as you can see that is my avatar cos jsut one day i just might be able to change taht pic for one of me and no one will tell the diff...one day...one day...one day... anyway ppl keep pumping cheers yossel

http://www.geocities.com/Hollywood/Set/5729/MARCBATH.JPG

marcus schenkenberg :D

Okay I'm really surprised that with many of you posting pictures of MMA Fighters that not a single Carlos Newton fan has brought him into the fray as well.

http://www.gpfuk.net/UFCcarlosweighingin.jpg

This guy is pretty amazing - no weightlifting, does all his exercize work through pliometrics and specialized routines he has devised with his knowledge in the medical field, as he is studying to become a doctor specializing in neurological psychology.

What impresses me the most is his incredible speed and flexibility. And the picture below shows his muscles when flexing:

http://www.zengrappling.com/Newton(c)UFCPreview.jpg

You should see videos of this guy, he moves like a cat! A great wrestler, although his lack of striking ability has let him down a few times in the octagon.

http://www.ufc.tv/fighters/artwork/fighter_profiles/fp_newtonCarlos.jpg

A few big ones, hyperlinked so they don't mess up the forum.

Swinging that leg in (http://bjj.org/susumu/ufc17/images/uf17da03.jpg)

airborne (http://bjj.org/susumu/ufc17/images/uf17da01.jpg)

What do yall think of Mike Ryan? :bb: :db: :tucool: :nod:

him

http://www.menshealth.com/images/cma/dec04_weightloss_200x248.jpg

Jillian Michaels - the trainer from NBC's "The Biggest Loser." She has great definition in her arms.

my goal. It doesnt hurt that my GF has his picture plastered over her desktop. She tells me he is hapa as well (half white/asian)


http://www.varu-m.go.ro/poze/jesson/mari/jason_momoa_9.jpg

http://ffmedia.ign.com/filmforce/image/swat-001-sm.jpg

That bulky, but very cut.

he is cut like a mofo

This guy's physique (off bodybuilding.com). Is this what ppl mean by the V shape look??? If it is then i need to work on my lats more.

This guy's physique (off bodybuilding.com). Is this what ppl mean by the V shape look??? If it is then i need to work on my lats more.

That's not much of a V... a V is more like this:
http://www.erafx.com/pics/images/PICT0804.JPG

And yes, to get the V you need to nail lats hard!

ahh ok thanks. :o
Is the guy above just got broad shoulders and a thin waist to make it look V ish?

EDIT: Massive lats there :tu: :tucool:

that may somewhat do it, but without the lats you wont get much of a V

ahh ok thanks. :o
Is the guy above just got broad shoulders and a thin waist to make it look V ish?

EDIT: Massive lats there :tu: :tucool:

Certainly, broad shoulders, a big chest, and a small waist will do it.. Or in my case, just big lats, chest, and shoulders. My waist is quite large though.

Thanks ucbgsr and Supirman. :D guess i wont know if i have a small waist till i manage to cut fully.

Thanks ucbgsr and Supirman. :D guess i wont know if i have a small waist till i manage to cut fully.

I cut down to 10% bodyfat and still had a 33+ in waist. I guess I'm "big-boned".

13% more BF to go for me... onto another day of dieting, hard work and sweat. :bb:

WOW. those are some nice lats Supirman. huge man.

http://img98.exs.cx/img98/6717/church8su.jpg

I'm surprised no-one's posted this pic to be honest. But I saw Ant's site years ago when i got my first weights set. Something just clicked and i knew i had to look like that, lol.
3 1/2 years later, i almost do, lol.

http://members.lycos.co.uk/greensheep/ellis.jpg

I must've looked at this picture a thousand times, and it still inspires me.

Anthony ellis: www.fatlosstips.com

Greeno :)

Wow... that picture reminds me of "Me". :)

http://www.skippypodar.net/WebGallery/Skip-Miscellaneous/skip-110203-rlx-serious3.jpg

Anywho, I thought I'd join John's forum and see if I can glean any inspiration and words of wisdom from the master of body transformation.

Great forum, John! :)

As for perfect physiques, LL Cool J and Mark Wahlberg were the first two that I felt I could realistically aim for. And lo and behold if it didn't years to get there, but I feel I got pretty darn close. :)

Here are two of the pictures I'm most proud of:

http://www.skippypodar.net/WebGallery/Skip-Miscellaneous/0311C-027.jpg

http://www.skippypodar.net/WebGallery/Skip-Miscellaneous/0311C-109.jpg

- Skip :)

Anywho, I thought I'd join John's forum and see if I can glean any inspiration and words of wisdom from the master of body transformation.

Great forum, John! :)


I've got a long way to go before I'll be anything close to a "master", but I'm happy to keep working towards that end!

It's great to have you here, Skip! Your pictures are very much at home in a "perfect body" thread. You look better every time I see you.

I don't want to derail this thread, but for those who don't know, Skip has been a great inspiration to me starting all the way back in early 2003 when I was just beginning my transformation. He recommended some excellent books that played a significant roll in my ability to break out of the negative thinking that had consumed my life. I always loved reading Skip's posts on bb.com; he's a true gentleman and is easily one of the most unique :p individuals you will ever know (just check out his web page!)

Skip, welcome!

I've got a long way to go before I'll be anything close to a "master", but I'm happy to keep working towards that end!

It's great to have you here, Skip! Your pictures are very much at home in a "perfect body" thread. You look better every time I see you.

I don't want to derail this thread, but for those who don't know, Skip has been a great inspiration to me starting all the way back in early 2003 when I was just beginning my transformation. He recommended some excellent books that played a significant roll in my ability to break out of the negative thinking that had consumed my life. I always loved reading Skip's posts on bb.com; he's a true gentleman and is easily one of the most unique :p individuals you will ever know (just check out his web page!)

Skip, welcome!



Aw... thanks, John! :D

Glad to be of service. :)

I'll definitely peruse your forum and contribute where I can.

By the way, how did you get your own forum? Does it require lots of server space? I do have my own domain name and unlimited bandwidth, but I wonder how time intensive it is. I'll PM you about it and we'll chat some. :D

Now... to put this thread back on track...

http://www.skippypodar.net/WebGallery/Gnvl2003-SkipWeb/images/skip-comp03-st.jpg http://www.skippypodar.net/WebGallery/Gnvl2003-SkipWeb/images/skip-comp03-sc.jpg

http://www.skippypodar.net/WebGallery/Gnvl2003-PatLee-SkipWeb/images/0311C-240.jpg

http://www.skippypodar.net/WebGallery/Gnvl2003-PatLee-SkipWeb/images/0311C-262.jpg

- Skip :)

Skip, looking great. If I could ever get LEAN like that... I'd LOOK like that! Damn my genetics ;)

I found my ultimate goal when I first saw Blade Trinity, Ryan Reynolds is damn ripped and not too big or small, perfectly what I am aiming for! :tu: :D

http://img105.exs.cx/img105/8328/bladetrinity10cw.jpg
http://img111.exs.cx/img111/5791/111lq.jpg
http://img111.exs.cx/img111/1131/108vp.jpg
http://img111.exs.cx/img111/4855/128ca.jpg
http://img88.exs.cx/img88/7885/623kd.jpg

I like the way his Abs are defined, not too overdone in my opinion.

He recommended some excellent books that played a significant roll in my ability to break out of the negative thinking that had consumed my life.


Would you mind sharing what books those were? I know I could use some help in that department.

Skip - honestly I think you blow Anthony Ellis out of the water! It's great to have you here!

I think Ryan Reynolds was on the cover of Men's health last month. I guess he had to lean up a LOT, and gain a lot of mass for the role.

Ryan Reynolds has got huge!!

To think thats the same guy from '2 guys and a pizza place' and 'Van Wilder Party Liaison'...

Makes me want to speed up my cutting, and start my bulk cycle....

Brad Cardoza is my inspiration. He's a strongman competitor, but the rippedest of them. 5-11 and like 240 lbs in this pic.

I also like his haircut, and he's the author of one of my favorite quotes:
"Priorities in life

1) FRIENDS AND LOVED ONES
2) LIFTING
3) EVERYTHING ELSE "

hey skip, nice to see you, why dont you post at bb.com anymore?

Samantha Harris has an AMAZING body!
(this is what I am aspiring to :D )

Since he's about my height and the size I want to become...

http://www.facade.com/celebrity/photo/Vin_Diesel.jpg

trogdor:
Man that guy does look phenominal!!!

http://www.t-nation.com/readTopic.do?id=409575

I found my ultimate goal when I first saw Blade Trinity, Ryan Reynolds is damn ripped and not too big or small, perfectly what I am aiming for! :tu: :D

http://img105.exs.cx/img105/8328/bladetrinity10cw.jpg

I like the way his Abs are defined, not too overdone in my opinion.

haha that's the EXACT person, images and everything I was thinking about.

He has the perfect body to me, in that film. I would love to look like that.

i'm sure someone's posted him, but i'm to lazy to look through all 20 some pages so here is... batista

http://batistaweb.com/promos/posedpromos/13.jpg

http://batistaweb.com/promos/posedpromos/02.jpg

not my perfect body, but he's a beast

He's just a small timer... I prefer Mariusz Pudzianowski - the two time strongman champ. He's huge, ripped, and twice the champ!
http://www.pudzian.pl/foto/320.jpg
Brad Cardoza is my inspiration. He's a strongman competitor, but the rippedest of them. 5-11 and like 240 lbs in this pic.

I also like his haircut, and he's the author of one of my favorite quotes:
"Priorities in life

1) FRIENDS AND LOVED ONES
2) LIFTING
3) EVERYTHING ELSE "

IMHO Joe Eigo (http://www.multilevelmoves.com) has the perfect body. Both in visual and performance aspects.

http://www.buddha-fist.com/downloads/je/JoeEigo-Doubleleg%20circle%20Winter%202002.jpg

Batista looks great. Anyone see him in the muscle mag last month (can't remember if it was Flex or M&F)? Total plug for MuscleTech, but cool anyway.

IMHO Joe Eigo (http://www.multilevelmoves.com) has the perfect body. Both in visual and performance aspects.
Heh, I have a whole lot of his videos, of his team, and of other individuals doing the same type of stuff - a little more than 2 gigs. Good stuff, although I'd rather be more muscular like Ilan with the skills of Joe.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v356/futurews6/transform1.jpg

IMHO Joe Eigo (http://www.multilevelmoves.com) has the perfect body. Both in visual and performance aspects.

http://www.buddha-fist.com/downloads/je/JoeEigo-Doubleleg%20circle%20Winter%202002.jpg

Yeah, Joe Eigo is awesome at what he does, yet I bet he hasnt even picked up a pair of weights, since hes a gymnast I guess he doesnt need them..

Not a celebrity, but what I would like to look like ultimately.

Batista looks great. Anyone see him in the muscle mag last month (can't remember if it was Flex or M&F)? Total plug for MuscleTech, but cool anyway.

batista is huge but i am afraid if i could transform my body to look like any one it would have to be goldberg.

http://www.billgoldberg.com/new/photogallery/300s/ring_belt.jpg
i have this pick on my motivation board.

Yeah, Joe Eigo is awesome at what he does, yet I bet he hasnt even picked up a pair of weights, since hes a gymnast I guess he doesnt need them..

I think he used to lift, but he found it easier to launch himself from the ground with less mass, so he cut back on his weight and lifting to get his current physique. (I had been offering a bit of exercising advice over at his site (http://multilevelmoves.com/) and attempting to send some people here for better advice.)

But me, I just think it's awesome what jumps he can do [i]for fun[/u]. That's the part I aspire to do.

He's just a small timer... I prefer Mariusz Pudzianowski - the two time strongman champ. He's huge, ripped, and twice the champ!
http://www.pudzian.pl/foto/320.jpg

Everytime I see that guy I am amazed. To be that big, that cut, and win two World's Strongest Man competitions in a row; WOW. I remember watching him in the train pull last year. He threw up in the middle of the pull and was still twice as fast as everyone else. I think he is too damn big to be the perfect body, but he is truly amazing and always fun to watch.

I'm aiming for that vin diesel chronicles of riddick look. Big and scary but not huge. I hate dieting down too low bodyfat %'z. It makes me feel depressed so i stay round 10-14 thaz prolly what vin is at so it works for me.