View Full Version : Adding milk protein to diet, good idea?
PetriJR Tue, August 10th, 2004, 01:03 PM I'm thinking of buying a 5kg bag of milkprotein, which contains 20% whey and 80% casein.
Stats per 100g are: 388 kcal, 92.3g prots, 0.9g fat, 0.1g carbs, 1200mg calsium.
I'm thinking of using this to supplement one or more of my daily meals (like afternoon snack or breakfast) and perhaps having a pure milkprotein shake when going to bed.
A typical afternoon snack for me would be then e.g. a low-fat yogurt (200g = 80cals, 0.2g fat, 12g carbs, 6g prot) + e.g. 20 grams of milkprotein to add about 18g of prots and about 72cals to that. Or perhaps an ounce of almonds + 20g of milkprotein.
I would continue to use whey as a PWO-shake but milkprotein sounds like a useful tool for distributing the proteins more evenly throughout the daily meals and as the last meal of the day.
My current diet for the whole day is in pretty good shape, but I do have some problems in getting enough protein, especially the distribution of proteins throughout the day is the biggest problem. The prots seem to concentrate mainly on lunch and dinner and it's not easy to fill up the daily prot quota with two meals and of course that is not the desired state of affairs anyway.
So, what do you good people think, does this sound like a good idea?
Skoorb Tue, August 10th, 2004, 02:30 PM Its bioavailability is ok. Not as high as eggs, but not low like most vegetables. I've used milk quite a bit in the past. It's not the ideal protein, but it is reasonably tasty, very easy to find, and exceptionally cheap, especially if you can stomach the milk created from the milk powder. I used to take that route myself (mix it with a little chocolate syrup to make it taste better).
PetriJR Tue, August 10th, 2004, 03:12 PM Its bioavailability is ok. Not as high as eggs, but not low like most vegetables. I've used milk quite a bit in the past. It's not the ideal protein, but it is reasonably tasty, very easy to find, and exceptionally cheap, especially if you can stomach the milk created from the milk powder. I used to take that route myself (mix it with a little chocolate syrup to make it taste better).
Hmm... Not quite sure what you mean by exceptionally cheap... They whey that I purchase costs about $15 per 900g (1.98 lbs) and the milkprotein costs about $26.50 per the same amount. So it's almost the double compared to whey.
Hmm... I think I have actually never tasted milk created from milk powder. But I do like the taste of the ultrafiltered unflavored whey protein so I guess I would be ok with the milkprotein as well.
Skoorb Tue, August 10th, 2004, 03:15 PM Hmm... Not quite sure what you mean by exceptionally cheap... They whey that I purchase costs about $15 per 900g (1.98 lbs) and the milkprotein costs about $26.50 per the same amount. So it's almost the double compared to whey.
Hmm... I think I have actually never tasted milk created from milk powder. But I do like the taste of the ultrafiltered unflavored whey protein so I guess I would be ok with the milkprotein as well.Hmm, it would seem that I didn't read your post properly. I thoguht you were talking about those huge very cheap bags of skim milk powder you can buy at the grocery and mix with water, to make milk :)
PetriJR Tue, August 10th, 2004, 03:19 PM Hmm, it would seem that I didn't read your post properly. I thoguht you were talking about those huge very cheap bags of skim milk powder you can buy at the grocery and mix with water, to make milk :)
Now why would I want to do that, I like to buy skim milk in liquid form... :D
Looking at a nutrient databank, the non-fat milk powder seems to have 394cals, 51g of carbs and 32.4g of prots in 100g of powder. That doesn't sound like a very good macro breakdown if you want to add just protein with some other stuff...
dtricome Sat, October 9th, 2004, 04:43 PM Hi,
You can add flax, etc. to whey to slow down digestion.
Take Care
Kino Sat, October 9th, 2004, 07:22 PM I'm thinking of buying a 5kg bag of milkprotein, which contains 20% whey and 80% casein.
Stats per 100g are: 388 kcal, 92.3g prots, 0.9g fat, 0.1g carbs, 1200mg calsium.
I'm thinking of using this to supplement one or more of my daily meals (like afternoon snack or breakfast) and perhaps having a pure milkprotein shake when going to bed.
My main protein right now (EvoPro (http://www.dpsnutrition.net/product_information.asp?number=CT047&back=yes&dept=1034&last=1034)) has a high percentage of micellar casein, and milk protein isolate. I've been using this for about 2-3 months now, and I'm really liking it overall. I can't say exactly what the buzz is all about lately...but I've noticed that many of the protein packagers seem to be working on bringing a milk protein powder to market. You'll notice that even ATW is following suit, on this latest trend.
I don't think you'd be making a bad decision going this route. Personally, I mix my powder with filtered water and 2 TBS of heavy cream. Heavy Cream is used to protect the Insulin Like Growth Factors as they pass through the stomach on their way to the small intestines from which they are sent to target cells. Of course Cream is of little benefit if there is not IGF's present in the Protein to begin with . Most proteins are subjected to manufacturing temperatures which kill the IGF's.
dtricome Sat, October 9th, 2004, 08:00 PM My main protein right now (EvoPro (http://www.dpsnutrition.net/product_information.asp?number=CT047&back=yes&dept=1034&last=1034)) has a high percentage of micellar casein, and milk protein isolate. I've been using this for about 2-3 months now, and I'm really liking it overall. I can't say exactly what the buzz is all about lately...but I've noticed that many of the protein packagers seem to be working on bringing a milk protein powder to market. You'll notice that even ATW is following suit, on this latest trend.
I don't think you'd be making a bad decision going this route. Personally, I mix my powder with filtered water and 2 TBS of heavy cream. Heavy Cream is used to protect the Insulin Like Growth Factors as they pass through the stomach on their way to the small intestines from which they are sent to target cells. Of course Cream is of little benefit if there is not IGF's present in the Protein to begin with . Most proteins are subjected to manufacturing temperatures which kill the IGF's.
Hi,
Milk isolate is the least expensive product with casein...
We're doing it, because we can't get our message through about flax, etc...
Micro/ultra filtration is low temperature.
Take Care
PetriJR Sun, October 10th, 2004, 07:50 AM So, would you say that combining whey + flax seed oil as equally good choise to taking milk protein + flax seed oil as a pre-bed snack?
Yeah, I did buy milk protein about one month ago (http://forums.johnstonefitness.com/showpost.php?p=74262&postcount=39) and have been taking it as a pre-bed snack along with flax oil almost every night. The 4kg bag should last about 2 more months.
dtricome Sun, October 10th, 2004, 05:29 PM So, would you say that combining whey + flax seed oil as equally good choise to taking milk protein + flax seed oil as a pre-bed snack?
Yeah, I did buy milk protein about one month ago (http://forums.johnstonefitness.com/showpost.php?p=74262&postcount=39) and have been taking it as a pre-bed snack along with flax oil almost every night. The 4kg bag should last about 2 more months.
It should be close enough. You'll probably have to double the amount of flax, since you're taking flax with the milk protein.
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