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LarryNC Thu, August 5th, 2004, 05:29 AM Weird question:
I did back/bicep/foarms on monday, and when I went to bed, I woke up after 4-5 hours and got up for an hour for a snack, water etc. I then went back to bed for 5 more hours of sleep, now my question is:
When I woke up the first time for my snack and waterm I was not sore one bit. When I woke up for the second time, I was killer sore!, I'm confused! :d_confuse
Wilderbeast Thu, August 5th, 2004, 06:04 AM Larry
DOMS : delayed onset muscle soreness
It kicks in about 12 hours after exercise and is part of the recovery process. All part and parcel of the training
Just google doms for more info
Wilders
RichLockyer Thu, August 5th, 2004, 06:06 AM Yup. My thighs generally feel it as soon as I stop doing extensions, but most other groups, depending on how hard I work, start to tighten up in 12-24 hours, or if it's a group that I haven't worked in a while, it'll get REALLY sore after 36-48 hours, then take a week to fully recover.
gfresh Thu, August 5th, 2004, 06:49 AM lol i actually thrive to get the soreness the next morning
this might sound dumb.. but there is bad pain and good pain
when i get sore after a workout i feel like ive achieved something :)
thats my good pain
RMe Thu, August 5th, 2004, 09:23 AM lol i actually thrive to get the soreness the next morning
this might sound dumb.. but there is bad pain and good pain
when i get sore after a workout i feel like ive achieved something :)
thats my good pain
Amen. No pain, no gain!
PhilipDC78 Thu, August 5th, 2004, 10:38 AM Amen. No pain, no gain!
Well, depends on the type of pain. It could also very easily be "Yes pain, no gain for a long, long time"
Skoorb Thu, August 5th, 2004, 10:58 AM That's how it goes. Sometimes my greatest soreness kicks in fully two days after the workout.
RMe Thu, August 5th, 2004, 11:25 AM Well, depends on the type of pain. It could also very easily be "Yes pain, no gain for a long, long time"
Obviously. If you are working out and pain sets in during that time then there is something definitely wrong, but DOMS is a good thing. I agree with others, in a weird way it is enjoyable.
French Spirit Thu, August 5th, 2004, 11:31 AM I have some body parts that never get sore no matter how hard I hit them (quads), and some that are sore for at least 3 days (lower back). It's strange.
Skoorb Thu, August 5th, 2004, 11:44 AM I have some body parts that never get sore no matter how hard I hit them (quads), and some that are sore for at least 3 days (lower back). It's strange.Me too. I can ALWAYS get my chest sore. I can very rarely get my legs soer. My triceps I can frequently get sore, and somewhat frequently for back. I can hardly ever get my biceps sore, and my shoulders all but never get sore. Interestingly my chest, tris, back are also my best body parts.
PhilipDC78 Thu, August 5th, 2004, 12:09 PM Me too. I can ALWAYS get my chest sore. I can very rarely get my legs soer. My triceps I can frequently get sore, and somewhat frequently for back. I can hardly ever get my biceps sore, and my shoulders all but never get sore. Interestingly my chest, tris, back are also my best body parts.
Oh man, I hear you there. My triceps have been sore for two days now. Good thing I am not doing them again till Monday! Also my quads are never sore. There is the immediate burn while I excersize, but soon after that, my legs (especially quads) feel fine.
RMe Thu, August 5th, 2004, 01:17 PM Me too. I can ALWAYS get my chest sore. I can very rarely get my legs soer. My triceps I can frequently get sore, and somewhat frequently for back. I can hardly ever get my biceps sore, and my shoulders all but never get sore. Interestingly my chest, tris, back are also my best body parts.
If you want your hamstrings sore then do straight leg deadlifts using Gironda's 8x8 and I promise they will be sore. Mine never fail too get sore from this.
RMe Thu, August 5th, 2004, 01:19 PM Oh man, I hear you there. My triceps have been sore for two days now. Good thing I am not doing them again till Monday! Also my quads are never sore. There is the immediate burn while I excersize, but soon after that, my legs (especially quads) feel fine.
Are you isolating your quads or are you doing something like squats that doesn't target them directly? Most exercises work groups of muscles. Traditional bench works like 6 different muscle groups and squats are no different. Zone in on the right lifting scheme and they will be sore.
PhilipDC78 Thu, August 5th, 2004, 02:25 PM Are you isolating your quads or are you doing something like squats that doesn't target them directly? Most exercises work groups of muscles. Traditional bench works like 6 different muscle groups and squats are no different. Zone in on the right lifting scheme and they will be sore.
I was doing leg extensions, and that didn't make my legs sore. I am still trying to find what weight I should be doing, because I just started my weight training routine. But I remember from past experiences that my quads wouldn't ever get very sore. I was able to do 12 reps on the leg extension at 240 pounds. Will be increasing it so that I can only do 8 on the third set. (This was after doing 12 reps at 140, 160, 180, 200, and 220 pounds.)
LarryNC Thu, August 5th, 2004, 02:57 PM Ah, I see. Thanks for the help!
Wilderbeast Thu, August 5th, 2004, 04:30 PM ok sore quads you want. this always works for me and everyone else i inflict it on at the MA class. Squat without any additional weight as many times as you can, rest for a min ,then repeat cycle until the most you can get out is 5 to 10 squats in the set. Very simple and i havent met anyone that wasnt a little sore afterwards. Its a lot higher quantity than most people have ever done so they tend not to have adapted hence the soreness.
Widers
RMe Thu, August 5th, 2004, 04:37 PM I was doing leg extensions, and that didn't make my legs sore. I am still trying to find what weight I should be doing, because I just started my weight training routine. But I remember from past experiences that my quads wouldn't ever get very sore. I was able to do 12 reps on the leg extension at 240 pounds. Will be increasing it so that I can only do 8 on the third set. (This was after doing 12 reps at 140, 160, 180, 200, and 220 pounds.)
This may take a few times to feel the right weight, but take your usually workout weight max and take about 75% of the weight. Do eight sets but with only 15-25 seconds rest between sets. Don't get up to get water. Don't go to the restroom. Don't socialize. Your 8th set for sure and possibly your 7th should be to fatigue. Reps 6-8 on your 8th set should be nearly impossible if you can even finish. Make sure to control the weight (no banging). Really concentrate on the muscles you are working b/c form is very important. If you can stand it superset this portion of your workout with something like leg press or lunges also using 8x8 method to finish you off. If you are not sore the next day then something is wrong.
You may be already doing this, but the weight is secondary to form especially when isolating. You should concentrate on every rep and try not to use ther muscles for help. Almost impossible sometimes, but you get the point. Unless you are competing for powerlifting then it isn't what you lift, but rather how you look and feel. :bb:
PhilipDC78 Thu, August 5th, 2004, 05:20 PM This may take a few times to feel the right weight, but take your usually workout weight max and take about 75% of the weight. Do eight sets but with only 15-25 seconds rest between sets. Don't get up to get water. Don't go to the restroom. Don't socialize. Your 8th set for sure and possibly your 7th should be to fatigue. Reps 6-8 on your 8th set should be nearly impossible if you can even finish. Make sure to control the weight (no banging). Really concentrate on the muscles you are working b/c form is very important. If you can stand it superset this portion of your workout with something like leg press or lunges also using 8x8 method to finish you off. If you are not sore the next day then something is wrong.
You may be already doing this, but the weight is secondary to form especially when isolating. You should concentrate on every rep and try not to use ther muscles for help. Almost impossible sometimes, but you get the point. Unless you are competing for powerlifting then it isn't what you lift, but rather how you look and feel. :bb:
Cool, thanks for the suggestion. I'll try it out.
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