View Full Version : Can you get good results by doing 100% weight training and no cardio?
rwkates Thu, July 8th, 2004, 10:14 PM When I look around at my gym, it seems like the people who have the best muscle definition don't do any cardio. It seems that they do their weight training and then leave. Also it seems like they do nothing but free weights, and no weight machines. Can I get good results by doing no cardio? Also, are the free weights more effective than machines? Another thing, I'm trying to lose another 25 pounds of fat, so cardio is what does that, right? Maybe the ones I'm seeing doing no cardio are just trying to add muscle, not lose fat. :rolleyes:
Fabian Thu, July 8th, 2004, 10:25 PM Maybe they do thier cardio at home? hehe or walk alot? Im sure you can achieve great results by just lifting but Id love to hear the other responses cause Im not %100 sure.
rtestes Thu, July 8th, 2004, 11:30 PM Sure you can. I have been around a long time. Cardio is a recent thing. The big push for it, seem to come along in last 15 years. People were cut and had muscles before cardio or steroids.
Look for some of Dr. Ellington Darden's books, he says no cardio until you finish cutting. I personally don't think cardio will hurt you if you get your resistance training as a priority.
SwoleCat Thu, July 8th, 2004, 11:58 PM Cardio has a myriad of other health benefits as well.
I'd look into incorporating at least SOME.
~SC~
chicanerous Fri, July 9th, 2004, 12:05 AM When I look around at my gym, it seems like the people who have the best muscle definition don't do any cardio. It seems that they do their weight training and then leave. Also it seems like they do nothing but free weights, and no weight machines. Can I get good results by doing no cardio? Also, are the free weights more effective than machines? Another thing, I'm trying to lose another 25 pounds of fat, so cardio is what does that, right? Maybe the ones I'm seeing doing no cardio are just trying to add muscle, not lose fat. :rolleyes:
Many people seperate cardio and lifting by at least eight hours to maximize the benefits from each.
If you eat right as you weight-train you can build muscle and stay the same BF%. If you are dropping weight and BF%, generally you aren't building muscle, but maintaining it as you lose fat.
Free weights can be most effective if you use proper form. Machines are effective, but aren't nearly as effective as the big compound exercises: bench press, squat, dead-lift, and pull-up.
JeremyLikness Fri, July 9th, 2004, 03:18 AM When I look around at my gym, it seems like the people who have the best muscle definition don't do any cardio. It seems that they do their weight training and then leave. Also it seems like they do nothing but free weights, and no weight machines. Can I get good results by doing no cardio? Also, are the free weights more effective than machines? Another thing, I'm trying to lose another 25 pounds of fat, so cardio is what does that, right? Maybe the ones I'm seeing doing no cardio are just trying to add muscle, not lose fat. :rolleyes:
The problem is - you aren't with those people all day long. How do you know they don't go for a jog or long walks or do something else for cardio? Just a thought.
Also, what is their nutrition like? Yes, you can get cut without cardio ... it's all about calories and 9 times out of 10, people are hitting the wall with nutrition, not cardio or training.
Jeremy
trainiac Fri, July 9th, 2004, 08:39 AM You can get results without cardio. You can also drive around in a car that's hitting on only three cylinders. It just doesn't work as well. I tell people there are three things to do to lose fat:
1. Resistance exercise
2. Aerobic activity
3. Eat smart 90% of the time
Any of the three will help. Doing two of the three is better. Doing all three is the best.
---Trainiac!
http://www.clintphillips.com/ask.html
Skoorb Fri, July 9th, 2004, 08:42 AM I've had successes with and without cardio for losing fat. Currently I'm doing cardio because, health benefits aside, it allows me to eat quite a bit more in the day (not to mention any lingering metabolic boost from a cardio session). I'm fairly sold on it, and I think that you'll find it to be an exception to the rule if you find a person who's got a lot of muscle and a low bodyfat and doesn't do cardio (and doesn't use drugs/tons of thermos to stay that way).
Free weights are generally better than machines to answer your other question. The best approach is to base things on free weights and use machines to supplement, depending on what you're doing.
cz3ch Mon, July 12th, 2004, 04:24 PM When I look around at my gym, it seems like the people who have the best muscle definition don't do any cardio. It seems that they do their weight training and then leave. Also it seems like they do nothing but free weights, and no weight machines. Can I get good results by doing no cardio? Also, are the free weights more effective than machines? Another thing, I'm trying to lose another 25 pounds of fat, so cardio is what does that, right? Maybe the ones I'm seeing doing no cardio are just trying to add muscle, not lose fat. :rolleyes:
Think of cardio Gasoline on an already roaring campfire. It's going to increase the burn rate/oxidation.
Weight training/nutrition alone can carry you far, but if you can stomach cardio (most hate it) do it.. it cannot "hurt" you. In fact since i've started my program I've quit my blood pressure medicine + went from a resting heart rate of 90 to 50 in just 2 months. Definately good health benefits
Specialbear Mon, July 12th, 2004, 09:05 PM i feel u bro, i USED TO HATE CARDIO. Now? i use it as a chance to dream (sounds gay as hell) about when i reach my goal. Music helps. I run 40 min Fri-Sun. On Mon-Thurs, i either skip it (i walk a lot of campus) or i use it as 'reading' time on a bike for 40 min or so. (Btw, Da Vinci code is awesome, just started angels and demons)
txitalian Tue, July 13th, 2004, 10:38 AM When I look around at my gym, it seems like the people who have the best muscle definition don't do any cardio. It seems that they do their weight training and then leave. Also
I lift in the gym and do cardio by walking at a track near my house or bike riding. I was able to get from 18%bf-12%bf by just lifting, but it seems the cardio is helping me get closer to single digits. Of course it all starts and ends with diet.
Jason
jmackey Tue, July 13th, 2004, 03:28 PM Cardio hasn never bothered me. I usually just get on the exercise bike and pump away to some good music.
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