ok,

i do about 50 min of cardio every night around 9 pm.
prior to this, (around 7-8:30 pm) i eat random small peices of WW bread that lay around at the bakery i work at (never more then 2 slices combined)

I read that you shouldnt eat carbs after 5 pm.. and so i was wondering if its ok, seeing as how i have 50 min of moderately intense jogging right after..

also, after i jog, its usually close to 10 pm, so i go home, shower and go to bed. I read that you shouldnt eat anything for up to 1 hour after cardio to maximize the fat burning, and you shouldnt eat anything 1 hour before bed to maximize fat burning during the night..

since i am never really hungry after cardio, im just hopping from the shower straight to bed without food... which is probably not toooooo good for me..

if i should eat something, then what should it be? pb? protein shake? tuna? eggwhites? or is it ok to just slip into bed.. i mean, i ate something close to 2 hours ago, so it should be ok, except that i did cardio....

This is a tough one because of the time of the cardio. I prefer cardio in the morning or at least 3-4 hours before bed. In any case, the pre-cardio meal isn't bad. I'd personally try to eat it more than 2 hours before the cardio and maybe add some protein.

As for after the cardio, you really should be eating something because otherwise the whole night your body may feed on your muscle. There's 2 options and I don't know which I'd do personally. I'd probably try both and see how it goes.

1) Protein/Fat combo right after the cardio
2) Protein/Complex carbs 40-50 mins after the cardio

I'd probably go for the 2nd option and just keep carbs lower during the day, but like I said, they both have their benefits so I don't know for sure.

:gl:

i just got back from my cardio.. eating tuna now :D , i dont know about eating carbs this late.. just seems to go against.. well.. i dunno, and im a slave to carbs.. i guess i could try to slow them down..

i still got some room left in my diet for some almond butter right now, so might as well have some too..

also, cardio in the morning before school is not an option.. well it is.. but i have trouble getting up for school alone.. the only thought that gets me going is the fact that its oatmeal time!!! :drool:

ty for the advice.. if protein/fats dont do it.. ill try the complex carbs.. :tu:

first off, the "no eating carbs after 5pm" is complete BULLSHIT!!
do your workout, have a high-GI shake straight after your workout, you wont gain any fat, so dont worry about it

treat it as a normal workout, have oats + protein 30-60mins before, and have your shake after, your body doesnt suddenly change to "carbs to fat" from "carbs to energy" after 5pm for some magical reason (oh its 5pm time to start sorting carbs as fat!!)

let me tell you a story about the "no carbs after 5/7/8pm"
there was a study done on people eating habits, it concluded a few things (such as people that eat breakfast have less of an appitite later in the day, which lead to fewer calories consumed and weight loss) but it showed that "regular" people ate less meals, of smaller portions earlier in the day, and more meals, later in night, which mostly consisted of our good friend carbs!! (so eating more frequent, bigger, more carb filled meals)
so obviously when you cut out carbs at night, you are drastically lowering your food intake!!! its not the carbs, its the calories, its just by cutting the carbs, you are cutting alot of calories (since dinner type meals are mainly carbs, for regular people)

so thats how the myth got about, its got nothing to do with carbs, more with total calorie intake

now im not saying you can save up your carbs and have sugar-pops and crap at night, but its nothing to be afraid of!!!
dont skimp on the most important meals of the day, just cos its late, and your afraid of carbs going to your gut, which wont happen, they will goto replenishing glycogen stores and keeping you out of catabolsim

first off, the "no eating carbs after 5pm" is complete BULLSHIT!!


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Please, oh PLEASE tell me this is true. Anyone else care to back this up? If I could have some brown rice with my evening meals i would be a very happy man.

Thanks

From everything I've learned on this forum from Jeremy, SwoleCat, and other highly respected professionals, it is ludicrous not to eat carbs in the evening. You just have to make sure it's the right kind of carbs. If you don't eat carbs after 5 PM, and you go to bed at 10 and wake up at 6, that's 13 hours that your body has no carbs to burn for fuel. Guess what it WILL burn? That's right, all that hard-earned muscle. Not only that, but no carbs often means low blood sugar. If nobody ate carbs after 5, we would have a lot of cranky people running around in the morning. Also, where would the energy for your AM workout come from?

I'm sure this is dealt with in another thread, but basically nothing high GI or overly processed, including milk, and I suppose even that is an individual consideration.

You should build you carbs around your weight lifting times. If you lift in the evenings, you should be carbing then also.

you should be consuming vegies with basically every meal, vegies have carbs, veeeery low-GI carbs (like 10-20)
alan aragon (from bb.com) reckons its good to consume oats near bed time! i reckon vegies are better, but he is the pro :p

its a weird thing with the energy balance, sometimes you can say "well its cal's in vs cal's out" and other times you can say "its WHAT you eat that matters"
both are correct, just they have to be used in different circumstances!

EDIT: read this article it explains everything, with studies to back it up!

http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/satter26.htm