do fat burners work?


thanks...

My personal experience with two supplements ("Universal Animal Cuts", and Trimspa) have not worked wonders. If there was a difference, it didn't matter to me, since I'm planning to always keep myself healthy, and don't have a deadline to meet.

It doesn't hurt to try (unless it has ephedra in it. Heh), but I wouldn't swear by any pill (save multivitamins). Remember, they're supplements, meaning they go with something... diet and exercise :)

My experiance using fat burners is the energy boost and the way they can reduce hunger. Those two things allow you to work out better and not cheat on your diet. From the 3 that I tried stacker 2 was the best for energy boost and hunger stoppage. Lipo6 seem to have a down side lack of energy after a few hours, Hydroxy did not seem to do anything. They also have ephedra in them and you can't buy that anymore. I don't know if they really did me any good or not but I can tell you from 235 lbs down to 210 Idid not take them and when I started taking them the fat loss was not any greater per week than when i was not taking them.

196 lbs as of today.

I believe that Lipo 6 is an outstanding supp to good diet and exercise. Even their ephedra free works rather well. Just don't expect magic unless you are also doing the work.

thanks. I do the work...so, if I used a fat burner, more than likely I would burn the fat off sooner than I would if I didn't have it :) ?

It' an aid just like anything else in a weight loss/dietary program. It won't make/break you, but it can help. It will not make up for a crappy dietary approach, no.

~SC~

I have a good diet. I'm just trying to get the fat off. Thanks.

I have made improvements over time.

What is your "good" diet. Just curious because "good" is a relative term.

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yea. I was thinking the same thing. I eat a lot of fish, chicken, vegetable, and fruit. Of course, I am summing it up tremendously. My bmr is 1508. I weighed this morning and was 138 and want to get down to 130 atleast. But as long as the fat is gone, and I contunue to bulk, I don't care how much I weigh.

Fatburners help me stay on course. They definatly blunt my cravings for chocholate or any other sweets. It also helps me limit my portions of food since I feel full quicker. But like Swolecat said, your diet is the key for loosing fat, a fatburner is just an aid if you need it.

yea. I was thinking the same thing. I eat a lot of fish, chicken, vegetable, and fruit. Of course, I am summing it up tremendously. My bmr is 1508. I weighed this morning and was 138 and want to get down to 130 atleast. But as long as the fat is gone, and I contunue to bulk, I don't care how much I weigh.

Those are all good choices of food, but as I read in Swolecats article yesterday from T-mag, there are certain times to eat certain foods, and certain foods should be mixed, and some should not.

If your 138lbs you better be bulking!!

The best Ephedra free fat burner has to be Thermorexin. Its $60 for 180 ct. but its amazing, especially for appetite suppression. I took one this morning and felt full halfway eating my first meal and I usually felt a little hungry afterwards. I got a smallish buzz from it too. I've tried VPX Redline and its a solid burner too.

Of course you can get something like Thermorexin and then order some Ephedrine HCl online. Most places online that sell it require you to give ID. A few places don't but I haven't seen any; just heard of them.

In my opinion, Ephedrine and Thermorexin is probably a potent stack. Of course it all comes down to diet (when does it not?) and exercise. I took an ECA (Ephedra + Caffeine + Aspirin) when my diet was trash and I gained four pounds. I took another ECA stack and had a strict cutting diet and worked hard. I lost 20 lbs that month. Then when my diet turned shitty (and exercise was rare), my weight kind of stagnated. So work hard and fat burners will help you.

Those are all good choices of food, but as I read in Swolecats article yesterday from T-mag, there are certain times to eat certain foods, and certain foods should be mixed, and some should not.

If your 138lbs you better be bulking!!

why do you say that? :)

why do you say that? :)

Depending on what your goals are, If your that light and want a muscular body, then you should start to bulk

I am bulking. I was thinking if I got down to 125-130, I would become ripped and then I would crank my calories back up and bulk at an excelerated rate. I am after, all only 5'4".5

They do work. I've done the ECA stack in the past to great benefit. They really curb the appetite and seem to trim fat off.

However, I don't do them now, and I consider them to be a detrimental crutch to the majority of people. I think it's safe to say that a great percentage of people who take these begin to rely heavily upon them and consider themselves essentially unable to lose weight without them. Ask yourself: Is it healthy to stay on these long term? Of course not. And, if you need these to drop the pounds, what's going to happen when you go off them? You'll gain it back.

Before a person even considers taking a fat burner I think that they should prove to themselves that they can lose weight without it, then if they're in a hurry they could supplement with it, but who's really in a hurry? Unless you're training for a competition - which is less than 1% of people - just take your time. You'll be healthier for it and know that you can drop weight/keep it off without relying on something like this.

For most people they tie into the reliance that the general public has on easy ways out, be it a magic bullet such as this, or a peculiar diet which promises to allow you to eat pizza every day and still lose weight.

Once you have the proper mentality to control your weight you'll know that you can lose it without a fat burner.

I'm partly playing devil's advocate, but these will represent a tiny portino of your success. The rest comes from exercise/diet, and nothing safe can replace the importance of that.

I don't need a appitite(sp) supressant. I was just wondering if they assist you in fat burning. it seems to me they merely curve your appitite and in turn, you eat less...again, in turn, you loose weight and fat. I'm never hungry b/c I eat fruit and 3 meals a day.

I don't need a appitite(sp) supressant. I was just wondering if they assist you in fat burning. it seems to me they merely curve your appitite and in turn, you eat less...again, in turn, you loose weight and fat. I'm never hungry b/c I eat fruit and 3 meals a day.They do speed the metabolism as well and at least some of them have an anti-catabolic effect (minimize muscle loss in times of caloric deficiencies).

You're "bulking" but asking how to burn the fat off and saying that you want to get down to 125-130? Those are contradictory. You don't bulk and lose weight.

I just want the fat gone. I don't really care how much I weigh...

I just want the fat gone. I don't really care how much I weigh...
only personal proof I have seen is they helped me get up in the morning to do cardio. I dont have any other proof than they kept me awake or helped me get up to do cardio on those mornings I stayed out late. :lol:

I took Trimspa when it still had ephedra and like everyone else has said, it does help curb your hunger. Judging from what you are trying to accomplish, just keep eating healthy everyday and try to go to gym times a week. Alot of people on these boards dont think that cardio helps too much, but I can say from personal expirience, if you can do 30 mins of cardio 3-5 times a week, you wont regret it.

thanks. I now do cardio for 30minutes, atleast 3 times a week. I love my diet. I never get hungery really at all. If I do, I grab some fruit.

Just be careful with the fruit. There is a time and a place for it. Fruit=Sugar=insulin spike=fat.......so just dont overdo it

The best Ephedra free fat burner has to be Thermorexin. Its $60 for 180 ct. but its amazing, especially for appetite suppression. I took one this morning and felt full halfway eating my first meal and I usually felt a little hungry afterwards. I got a smallish buzz from it too. I've tried VPX Redline and its a solid burner too.

Of course you can get something like Thermorexin and then order some Ephedrine HCl online. Most places online that sell it require you to give ID. A few places don't but I haven't seen any; just heard of them.

In my opinion, Ephedrine and Thermorexin is probably a potent stack. Of course it all comes down to diet (when does it not?) and exercise. I took an ECA (Ephedra + Caffeine + Aspirin) when my diet was trash and I gained four pounds. I took another ECA stack and had a strict cutting diet and worked hard. I lost 20 lbs that month. Then when my diet turned shitty (and exercise was rare), my weight kind of stagnated. So work hard and fat burners will help you.

its 49$ if you have the discount code, which is afdiscount. I dont usually take thermorexin with E, though it is a potent stimulant stack. For fatburning I would reccomend rotating thermorexin and ECA every 2-4 weeks.

I had used thermogen xs before.
That stuff was crazy. Everything that ECA stack was hyped up to be, with some yohimbine, guggle extract...
It cost 40 quid over here in england for 120 caps, 2 in the morning, 2 mid afternoon. On an empty stomach, the boost of energy hit you real quick.

They don't make the stuff any longer. I did however lose about 15 pounds in a month with it.

You have to consider though, that hunger repressive effect, how are you going to feel with it gone afterwards? And caffeine letdown? I can tell you, the ravishing hunger and caffeine letdown moods hit straight afterwards. And naturally the only thing that makes you feel better is chocolate. heh.

ive tried lean system 7 previously to help me get off a plateau but no luck. All it ended up doing was mess with my sleep pattern...grr. :mad:

Originally Posted by Vinnys025
Those are all good choices of food, but as I read in Swolecats article yesterday from T-mag, there are certain times to eat certain foods, and certain foods should be mixed, and some should not.



What is Swolecats article you refer too? Do you have a link?

Thanks :)

so it would be good to take thermorexin and Ephedrine HCl togethor? How often do you take the Ephedrine?

so it would be good to take thermorexin and Ephedrine HCl togethor? How often do you take the Ephedrine?

you can as I posted in your other thread. But I really think that its better to rotate them every 2-4 weeks. But I admit that I do like to stack them because its a nice UP :)

upping your cardio from 30min to 45 might do more then a few pills a day. or upping it to 45 min and some pillls might even do more.

upping your cardio from 30min to 45 might do more then a few pills a day. or upping it to 45 min and some pillls might even do more.


agree on both counts.

Honestly, I would waste the money on the thermorexin. Just a basic EC stack will work fine. YOu dont really need all that extra stuff in thermorexin when the ephedra is doing most of the work.

A bottle of 90 caffeine pills is only 5 bucks, compared to 50 bucks for the themorexin

I've tried beverly's musclean, man's scorch, green tea, thermodynamx, scorch, and lipo-6 w/ ephedrine...

the only one that worked was the old school version of lipo 6 with ephedrine.

It killed my appetite and made me lose 2 pounds in a week, when I had been at a plateu for a month.

I quickly stopped, however, as I felt that a magic pill was taking a short cut...I keyed in my diet even further, got rid of the stuff, and made excellent progress without it...

Ephederine is really the only thing that works. I'm very suspect of all other fat burners, cus i've tried em, and they dont do squat.

My doctor stated that fen phen did alot of damage to heart valves and permantly messed up some who took it. I guess thats enough for me to fear other fat burners.

whats the cheapest way to get ephedrine out there?

So has anyone heard or taken a supp called MACA extract?

I have heard some good things about it, but have not done my research yet.

Honestly, I would waste the money on the thermorexin. Just a basic EC stack will work fine. YOu dont really need all that extra stuff in thermorexin when the ephedra is doing most of the work.

A bottle of 90 caffeine pills is only 5 bucks, compared to 50 bucks for the themorexin

They work very differently. I can tell you this because when I rotate them I still get the same initial effects when I go Back on EC.

and a good EC stack is going to run you at least 20$, the price of pure ephedrine and even the crappy vasopro has gone up. Not to mention the fact that now you can only buy a 6 weeks worth, unless you order from canada :) - which I highly reccomend.

I am not saying that EC is not good, quite the contrary, I use it a lot. But I get a lot better results by rotating it with thermorexin.

as far as cost goes if you just bought the yohimbine its would set you back 20$- so your stack goes from 20$ to 40$. I know because I sometimes run yohimbine with my EC stack. I am just as cheap as anyone :nod: