View Full Version : John is on CNN!


pokswin
Tue, September 22nd, 2009, 10:05 PM
Not sure if anyone else saw this, but I was just browsing some vides on CNN and one of them has John in it:

http://www.msplinks.com/MDFodHRwOi8vd3d3LmNubi5jb20vdmlkZW8vP0pTT05MSU5LPS 92aWRlby9vZmZiZWF0LzIwMDkvMDkvMjIvZGNsLmpiLmluc2hh cGUuY25u

:claphigh:

gravityhomer
Tue, September 22nd, 2009, 10:21 PM
ah, good ole Steve, what an amazing transformation.

Is the internet really this giant repository of material that anyone can use without citing references?

chicanerous
Tue, September 22nd, 2009, 10:26 PM
:lol: at the soundtrack and commentary they gave it.

JoeSchmo
Tue, September 22nd, 2009, 10:32 PM
LOL....I like the Smurf boxers comment. :lol:

guava
Tue, September 22nd, 2009, 11:34 PM
Stephen, you can start dating again! :spaz:

Is the internet really this giant repository of material that anyone can use without citing references?I didn't actually read youtube's agreement all that carefully. :o Did Collegehumor.com pay CNN for the on-air placement, or is that where CNN lifted the video from? Shows you how crafty digging, good placement, and fortuitous timing can pay off better than a solid plan and strategy with dedicated implementation.

John, I was looking at your youtube channel the other day and noticed that you "favorited" the videos that others had posted of you. Did you ask anyone to take any videos down? It must be terribly frustrating, but I wonder about what steps you take when someone borrows your images without giving you credit, or, worse, misrepresents you.

John Stone
Wed, September 23rd, 2009, 06:42 AM
John, I was looking at your youtube channel the other day and noticed that you "favorited" the videos that others had posted of you. Did you ask anyone to take any videos down? It must be terribly frustrating, but I wonder about what steps you take when someone borrows your images without giving you credit, or, worse, misrepresents you.
It's a little frustrating that so many organizations use my video and images without permission or giving proper credit, but there's not much I can do about it. Once things start to spread on the Internet it's like trying to put toothpaste back in the tube. I sometimes try to make contact and ask that the JSF URL be added, but they don't always do it. A couple of the re-posts on Youtube started getting a lot of hits (the two I favorited) and those two posters added my URL to the description after I asked them to. Break.com, College Humor, Buzz Feed, The Sun and many others all ignored my request. :(

In the case of the CNN thing, the story already ran, so I guess there's no point in trying to contact Jarrett Bellini. EDIT: I found him on FB and dropped him a quick note anyway. :)

Bt443407
Wed, September 23rd, 2009, 08:02 AM
It's pretty ridiculous that he did not once even mention your name, like "Here's an example: John Stone, from www.johnstonefitness.com, blah blah". He just said "This guy". Well, if you happened to do a little research, you'd realize that "this guy" is helping thousands of people do the same thing. :nope:

woodan
Wed, September 23rd, 2009, 08:57 AM
They say that's over a year but by the end John was getting pretty big. I just checked the daily pictures and by the end he's still small and pale compared to what they showed. Aren't those pics taken over a couple of years at least?

This just adds to the misinformation that surrounds the fitness industry already.

KT Monahan
Wed, September 23rd, 2009, 10:27 AM
I'm not a First Amendment or copyright lawyer, but I wonder if the Fair Use Doctrine applies to this situation. Don't ask me to explain, just Google the term. It basically allows limited use of copyrighted material without the need for permission. It's why Jon Stewart can show short clips from Fox News or allows someone on TV to quote a passage from an author's book. Or something like that.

But still, why not give John his props?

MrSmith
Wed, September 23rd, 2009, 03:59 PM
Obviously there are the negative sides to this with people not crediting etc - think of the positive as well. Some serious media players have decided your transformation is worth using. You should be proud :)

gravityhomer
Wed, September 23rd, 2009, 05:11 PM
Some serious media players have decided your transformation is worth using.

:confused: These uses of John's transformation are used less for inspiration, and fall more into the look at this crazy shit I found on the internet category. The following clip was old dating videos. It is usually passed on by an internet news/humor blog or the one internet savvy guy at a tv show or newspaper who considers himself the gateway to the internet for the staff.

I'm not sure if I would feel "proud" to be chosen for this. Without any credit, interested people do not get to hear the whole amazing story that goes with it, or the amazing community that spawned from one guy who decided to take pictures every single day for over a year. As well as log every other detail about his diet and exercise routine. It is this feat, that pulls people in and shows them they can do it too.