I've seen Atkins gripes in lots of other posts, so I thought it might be a good idea to collect our pet peeves about the Atkins craze and other such dieting fads...here are 2 of mine.

-Low carb beers...
-Restaurants that advertise their "net carbs" so people think they can eat at Applebees and not feel guilty about eatin 30 grams of saturated fats!

Anyone else have gripes?

friend just told me today atkins was good, i said no, low carb is bad for your brain and you lose energy, he says, oh, 25 carbs a day will do just fine, and i was like omg no way, made me kinda weird

net carbs is stupid too

In the organic/health food section of the super market......I saw frozen pizza. Nuff said :p

In the organic/health food section of the super market......I saw frozen pizza. Nuff said :p

Well, with all-natural, unprocessed ingredients, pizza could be healthy.

Whole wheat crust
Low fat cheeses
Lots of veggies
Lean meats
Home made sauce from fresh tomatoes and spices

What's unhealthy about that as long as the portions are reasonable?

(Yes, I realize that any frozen pizza you find is going to be full of crap you dont want to eat, I was just making a point)

At a get together a few months ago, my uncle tells me that he's been doing Atkins and says, "It's great. You can eat all the pork rinds and bacon you want. But I sure do miss fruit." Yeah, sounds great. :rolleyes:

At a get together a few months ago, my uncle tells me that he's been doing Atkins and says, "It's great. You can eat all the pork rinds and bacon you want. But I sure do miss fruit." Yeah, sounds great. :rolleyes:That's why I call Atkins the "All You Can Eat Fat Buffet" diet. Atkins really isn't so bad if you actually read the book and follow it. Too many people just don't do that.

Atkins really isn't so bad if you actually read the book and follow it. Too many people just don't do that.

Remember PETA, the animal terrorists, have put out misleading information for years on Atkins or any diet that lets you eat meat. People should read the book. It is an effective diet.

http://www.mlive.com/newsflash/business/index.ssf?/newsflash/get_story.ssf?/cgi-free/getstory_ssf.cgi?f0047_BC_WSJ--HealthJournal&&news&newsflash-financial

RTE

Peta saved my house from being taken by public domain saying it was a wildlife protection zone...for all that there are some vegans and veggies on here, it seems there are a few vegan/veggie haters out there too...

Let me clarify: PETA saved my house from being turned in to a HUMMER H2 plant...of all the pollution creating autos on the planet, thats one for the ages...terrorists?? Lets see some evidence they're a terrorist group, and furthermore, why don't you qualify your remarks with some type of physical proof of their so-called terrorist actions...or for all of you out there that think there is some vegan-doctor's lobbying for anti-meat eating ventures, lets see some proof of that too!

My topic doesn't say Atkin's can't be a good diet, certainly anyone trying to diet is doing a good thing...but be skeptical about avoiding carbs, thats your bodys main energy source...

Conservatives: can't live w/ 'em...can't live..nvrmnd, I could live w/out 'em..

This thread sure went downhill fast.

This is the "Nutrition and Supplement forum" -- it is not the proper place to argue about politics. If you all can't stay on topic and voice your gripes about the Atkins diet without being insulting to each other, then this thread will soon be locked.

Yes - this thread is about Atkins GRIPES. If you like the Atkins diet, then don't post here. Start your own Pro-Atkins thread.

Thanks.

My main problem with the Atkin's Diet is that it is unnatural over long periods. It forces the body to use its backup energy mechanism full-time. I have no real problem with people who want to use it for short-term (6 months or less) weight loss, as long as they choose nutrient-dense carbs and supplement well, but people who think it is a healthy lifestyle have another thing coming. Pork rinds and bacon, indeed. :rolleyes:

Atkins really isn't so bad if you actually read the book and follow it. Too many people just don't do that.

Exactly!! I am actually teaching a community education class beginning this summer on low carb dieting. Hopefully I will be able to teach people the right way to do it. I actually get pissed off how everything is suddenly low carb now. Just the other day, I noticed Low Carb Pasta. 22 carbs per 2oz serving. How the hell is that low carb? When I lost my 70lbs on Atkins back in 2000, I maybe maxed out at 30 per day for the entire 6 months it took to lose it. Low carb ice cream, beer, bread?? Truthfully, I wouldn't even recommend most of the actual Atkins brand products. May be acceptable for maintenance, but definetly not for losing.

Jason

i didnt know there was an atkins book. has anyone read it. is it like south beach where they intoduce healthy carbs back into the diet and teach you to eat more sensibly or are you eating low to no carbs forever?

It strikes me as more of a "diet" in the short term sense. You change for a little while to lose weight, but then you have to change again because it's not healthy. I prefer a more balanced approach to long term change for long term, healthy results.

i didnt know there was an atkins book. has anyone read it. is it like south beach where they intoduce healthy carbs back into the diet and teach you to eat more sensibly or are you eating low to no carbs forever?


You drop down to less than 20g per day until you lose as much weight as you want. They call this the "induction phase". Then you slowly add them back until you are at a maintenance level.

But, it uses carb control as it's only method of weight management.

My apologies for politicizing my thoughts earlier in the thread.

There is a good article on the Mens Health website comparing the low carb trend of now to the low fat craze of the 90's and how both have negatively impacted overall health in America.

I don't have any kind of problem with people who are actually following the Atkins diet. It's the people who aren't on a diet, but thank that just because their burger is on lettuce as opposed to a bun they're eating clean. If you want to eat clean, don't eat fast food...

I never should have started this thread...

Heh, just the other day I saw some flyer advertising a low carb *FIBRE* suppliment. What?! :p

Just the other day, I noticed Low Carb Pasta. 22 carbs per 2oz serving. How the hell is that low carb?

Maybe this falls uder the same labelling regulations that say you can call a salad dressing reduced fat if it has less than 25% of the fat as the original variety. Still does not mean healthyYou'd think then that they should call it reduced carb or lower carb pasta. :confused:

As TheLemonSong mentioned earlier, "low carb/no carb" has replaced the "low fat/no fat" fad. I remember a time when I would look for the "low fat" or "no fat" type foods thinking "I'm, eating healthy". LOL

What's even worse is how you see all this nocarb/nofat stuff and then check the label only to see it has a TON of sugar! OMG, so you get rid of complex carbs in exchange for simple sugars? Sick.

Surely a low fat diet is inclined to be healthier than a low carb diet?

Eight years ago, I lost 47.5kgs doing the Susan Powter "Stop the Insanity" low fat thing (no more than 30g of good fat a day). I ate healthily - lots of vegies, salad, fruit, lentils, lean meats and chicken, etc.

Any diet on which you can eat as much bacon as you like scares me. :eek:

The complaint isn't with reducing fat, especially not essential fats..the complaint is (like Atkins) people thinking that "low-fat" or "reduced fat" food is somehow healthy and ok to pig out on.