now that all the "joe college" kids I went to high school with are back from school, I see them around the gym [which is the last place they expected to see me :p]

It seems virtually ALL OF THEM that [are HUGE!] I talk to do back/bis & chest/tris

i mean from where i've started my routine has done wonders for me, but getting my bench press up is something i've been aggravated with. But the thing when asking people in the gym for advice is, everyone thinks they are an expert. I do Monday/Chest Teus/Back Wed/[i work a double every week so I REST] Thurs/Shoulders Fri/Tris-Bis Sat/Legs. And I work out for about an hour and a half, doing four sets. light/moderate/heavy/moderate

But here's my question: my typical chest workout is
Flat/Incline/Decline Bench then Flat/Incline/Decline Flies. Four sets.
(I switch it up with dumbbells/barbells then dumbbells and cables for flies variety)
Sometimes this takes.. a while [especially my back days]

now you're telling me after a long work out, gased out, you expect me to do triceps? I'm weak as hell at this point. Where is the strength for close-grip, nose breakers, tricep press, dips, extensions??

Would it be more effective to say:
Monday- Incline Bench, then flat/incline/decline flies + close-grip, tricep press, dips.

Then be able for back/bis on the next day, shoulders following then repeat the week (chest) by Friday and do Decline or Flat since on Monday I did incline?

I don't know which "power execises" to be utilizing, or if this is the best method. Don't get me wrong I enjoy my routine and busting my ass, but I don't want my body to get too comfortable.

Also.. why is my appetite out of control! haha

help! :tu:

Are you adding work each workout? in other words, are you lifting more (more sets, more reps or more weight) in each successive workout?

Are you eating well? Are you sleeping?

All the iso work (bi/tri/fly etc) likely isn't very important unless you are looking to hit some weak points in your lifting.

Personally, I just do dips and dumbell or barbell bench. Currently a big fan of Rippetoe's "Starting Strength" and likely will work though an 8 week set of his compound routine.

Pete

Dang, 1.5 hours in the gym? That's a lot!

In my opinion you're doing too much work. Doing flat, incline and decline for bench and flies seems like overkill - especially for a novice lifter. I agree with your idea - if you are going to stick with a bodypart split, then group triceps and chest, back and biceps. Bear in mind that the triceps are getting worked in the chest movements anyway. Likewise with biceps and back exercises.

Your appetite is probably out of control as a result of all that training. If I was lifting for 1.5 hours a week x 5 times a week, I'd be hungry as heck too!

Don't forget to train the legs :)

I think you're making things too complicated.

I dunno what you're doing on your other days, but some simple full-body barbell exercises will give you a lot of the benefit of these more complicated, isolation-type exercises (like flies) in the areas you want to target as well as everywhere else.

As a novice lifter, I am a fan of Starting Strength, though you might want to look at one of Mastover's free workout templates if you're a fan of splits.