View Full Version : Shoulder clunks, cracks and clicks
woodan Wed, February 25th, 2009, 07:33 PM My right shoulder clunks, cracks and clicks. I blame using computer mice for so long, especially while playing games like First Person Shooters (something I no longer do and probably couldn't if I tried). However, when I saw a physiotherapist she attributed my training to the problem as well. It's obviously some rotator cuff issue. It doesn't bother me much while training, but there is a constant dull ache there most of the day.
Anyway, I found some program to help sort out the issue online it's based on 6 exercises using light restistance using bands. Each exercise is meant to be done for 3 sets of 15-20 reps and this is all meant to be done 5 days a week.
My question is this; do you think it would make much difference if I follow the normal set structure and do 3 sets of one exercise, followed by 3 sets of the next and so on or just do three giant sets with all the exercises.
I ask as if I do all 3 sets of one before going on to the next it's going to almost take as long as my regular workouts and I simply don't have time for that. Whereas if I do giant sets it will take a fraction of the time.
What are your thoughts?
leftyx Wed, February 25th, 2009, 07:42 PM My right shoulder clunks, cracks and clicks. I blame using computer mice for so long, especially while playing games like First Person Shooters (something I no longer do and probably couldn't if I tried). However, when I saw a physiotherapist she attributed my training to the problem as well. It's obviously some rotator cuff issue. It doesn't bother me much while training, but there is a constant dull ache there most of the day.
Anyway, I found some program to help sort out the issue online it's based on 6 exercises using light restistance using bands. Each exercise is meant to be done for 3 sets of 15-20 reps and this is all meant to be done 5 days a week.
My question is this; do you think it would make much difference if I follow the normal set structure and do 3 sets of one exercise, followed by 3 sets of the next and so on or just do three giant sets with all the exercises.
I ask as if I do all 3 sets of one before going on to the next it's going to almost take as long as my regular workouts and I simply don't have time for that. Whereas if I do giant sets it will take a fraction of the time.
What are your thoughts?
Are you doing your regular workout as well as the shoulder rehab? If not, the just swap in ur shoulder rehab for your regular workout.
If you want to continue doing some lower body work that doesn't involve shoulder movement then I would still follow the rehab schedule.
I don't see how doing 3 giant sets will hurt you. You could try it for a week or two and see if it's helping.
pmcfad Wed, February 25th, 2009, 09:20 PM i got this link from carole. http://www.flashmavi.com/weight_training_chest_around_the_worlds.shtml
it's helped me. both my shoulders click. the right worse than the left. i impinged somehting in it about a month ago and its getting better but its still not 100 percent. be careful, everything i've read about this is bad. long time heal either with surgery or with out. its not an easy fix. another thing i've read is train with out pain in the shoulder. if it hurts, don't do it. if it doesn't hurt, go for it. i'm doing that.
bench was hurting, i went to sitting chest press machine. that kept me in shape in the pecs for the last month. i'm able now to bench with out pain, but i can't do raises. and i click like cricket. the clicks don't bother me but not being able to lift...that bothers me. anyway, good luck.
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My right shoulder clunks, cracks and clicks. I blame using computer mice for so long, especially while playing games like First Person Shooters (something I no longer do and probably couldn't if I tried). However, when I saw a physiotherapist she attributed my training to the problem as well. It's obviously some rotator cuff issue. It doesn't bother me much while training, but there is a constant dull ache there most of the day.
Anyway, I found some program to help sort out the issue online it's based on 6 exercises using light restistance using bands. Each exercise is meant to be done for 3 sets of 15-20 reps and this is all meant to be done 5 days a week.
My question is this; do you think it would make much difference if I follow the normal set structure and do 3 sets of one exercise, followed by 3 sets of the next and so on or just do three giant sets with all the exercises.
I ask as if I do all 3 sets of one before going on to the next it's going to almost take as long as my regular workouts and I simply don't have time for that. Whereas if I do giant sets it will take a fraction of the time.
What are your thoughts?
woodan Thu, February 26th, 2009, 06:41 AM Thanks guys.
Anyone got anymore opinions on the giant set vs regular sets approach?
gazareth Thu, February 26th, 2009, 06:45 AM What is the workout?
What kind of shoulder health stuff are you doing at the moment? e.g. thoracic mobility drills, scapular stability & activation stuff, capsule stretches, foam rolling?
woodan Thu, February 26th, 2009, 06:58 AM What is the workout?
What kind of shoulder health stuff are you doing at the moment? e.g. thoracic mobility drills, scapular stability & activation stuff, capsule stretches, foam rolling?
The workout is just a bunch of RC stuff. Internal rotations, external rotations, things like that.
At the moment, I'm not doing anything for shoulder health other than a bit of thoracic mobility occasionally.
gazareth Thu, February 26th, 2009, 07:09 AM The workout is just a bunch of RC stuff. Internal rotations, external rotations, things like that.
At the moment, I'm not doing anything for shoulder health other than a bit of thoracic mobility occasionally.
The general impression I get from reading Eric Cressey's stuff (he really knows shoulders) is that people generally over focus on the RC and ignore the scapulae.
I wouldn't worry about doing a specialist routine to fix your shoulders unless you are seriously hurting. Instead, stick with whatever you were doing before and add in some of the following either before or after your workouts:
Thoracic mobility drill with tennis ball or foam roller (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SWrkZUn_xnI)
YLTWs (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xCp-YynBEvE)
Scap push-ups (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iY9Vuo27pCs)
Scap wall slides (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fYNSZz-fPRw)
Band pull aparts (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kpy2RSXA8dU)
Band dislocates (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dNilld58tks)
Plus some external rotation stuff. You don't really need to train internal rotation in isolation as you will be getting enough of this with pressing movements.
woodan Thu, February 26th, 2009, 07:15 AM From what I've read though normal strength training only trains the larger muscles and it's hypertrophy in these muscles and not the RC that causes the problems. You need to do this lighter restistance stuff to gain strength endurance so it can keep your shoulder placed properly. Which was along the same lines as what my physio said.
woodan Thu, February 26th, 2009, 07:22 AM However, that YLTW thing looks pretty neat and contains a lot of the same movements as what I was looking to do anyway.
woodan Thu, February 26th, 2009, 07:39 AM I might follow this instead. It uses circuits. Cheers gaz :tu:
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gazareth Thu, February 26th, 2009, 08:01 AM From what I've read though normal strength training only trains the larger muscles and it's hypertrophy in these muscles and not the RC that causes the problems. You need to do this lighter restistance stuff to gain strength endurance so it can keep your shoulder placed properly. Which was along the same lines as what my physio said.
Yep but not just in the RC, you need to do scapular stability and activation stuff as well.
woodan Thu, February 26th, 2009, 08:38 AM Yep but not just in the RC, you need to do scapular stability and activation stuff as well.
I believe that rehab program I posted has that stuff.
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