Ok been a while!! Have not trained seriously for years now. I have been lifting regularly for a few years with little to know transformations - really just maintenance. Well i quit smoking recently and decided to get on WW with my wife. Well in 5 weeks i have lost a total of 10 pounds - not nearly enough for how hungry i feel ALL THE TIME!!!!!!!!! Am i right to assume my metabolism has reacted to this negatively - slowing down in response to the reduction of food consumption.

Depends.

What exactly are you eating?

Everything really. I`ve cut out the junk (99%) With WW you eat what you want, everything has a point value. At my weight 230 i am allowed 27-31 points a day. Here is a partia; list of things i eat.
Soup - chicken noodle
Granola
Fish
Chicken
Hambuger - rarely
Rice
Potatoes
Low fat low cal Pudding
Popcorn air popped no butter
Chocolate - very small amounts
On weekends after Hockey a few beers - 2-3 not 8-10
Coffee and lots of it - black

I was a junk fiend before and the amounts i have cut out alone should have been worth 10 - 20 pounds in the previous weeks.

A major concern i have is how high in points Protein is worth. I love meat rice and potatoes. I think this is the wrong diet for me. But how else can i lose the weight. I dont wanna get skinny just a little larger than average. I`de love a six pack but not by weighing in at 165. I am 6 feet tall and i would like to stay north of 205.

Any thoughts!

Everything really. I`ve cut out the junk (99%) With WW you eat what you want, everything has a point value. At my weight 230 i am allowed 27-31 points a day.

I love how WW has replaced calories with points and gets to call it a unique system and make money off it :doh:. I think I'm going to assign a random variable to food energy, have people count that and get rich. :lol:

Here is a partia; list of things i eat.
Soup - chicken noodle
Granola
Fish
Chicken
Hambuger - rarely
Rice
Potatoes
Low fat low cal Pudding
Popcorn air popped no butter
Chocolate - very small amounts
On weekends after Hockey a few beers - 2-3 not 8-10
Coffee and lots of it - black

I was a junk fiend before and the amounts i have cut out alone should have been worth 10 - 20 pounds in the previous weeks.

Well, if it's an improvement over what you used to eat, then that's great. Take small steps if that's what gets you to your goal. Aside from the granola that looks pretty good to me, though lacking in veggies and good fats.

A major concern i have is how high in points Protein is worth. I love meat rice and potatoes. I think this is the wrong diet for me. But how else can i lose the weight. I dont wanna get skinny just a little larger than average. I`de love a six pack but not by weighing in at 165. I am 6 feet tall and i would like to stay north of 205.

Any thoughts!

Yes, count calories and macronutrients ;). Read gravityhomer's fat loss guide as well as Foley's guide to body recomposition. Both are linked in the sticky in the beginner's section.

I think WW is perfect for people who want to lose weight but don't workout. I know that they added points into their flex plan for when you do workout but I just don't think it emphasizes P/C/F, sometimes you have to do this in order for you to suceed in your weightlifting goals. It is a simple plan but maybe not for people who lift with a particular goal in mind.

I'm on another forum where a bunch of people are doing WW. For fun I calculated how many "points" I was eating per day. It came out to be over 4,000 but my actual caloric intake was in the low 1200's. :doh: Needless to say, I went back to counting calories instead of using their absurd point system.

I'd say read the stickies and clean up your diet. The whole WW point system is really stupid, especially for somebody that wants to zoom in on their nutrition. If you're eating clean and often, your diet may need some fine tuning at best.

If you want to experiment, compare the point system to actual macros and calories. I found the whole thing experiment scary as most people that use WW either think A) they can fill up on junk all day as they never take into account how much sugar and crap they are eating all day or B) They cut their points down too far regardless of what they are eating in hopes that the fat will fall off.

From what I've witnessed, the people that are starving themselves are the first to start bitching about weight gain when they go on a food binge. The people that like to fill up on crap and use food as a braggin' right lose the same 1-5 pounds over and over again as they're not actually losing fat.

I'm just saying and not everybody "abuses" WW in such a way. :lol:

Read gravityhomer's fat loss guide as well as Foley's guide to body recomposition. Both are linked in the sticky in the beginner's section.

Yes.

Ya !!! I am not big on fruits or veggies - drives my wife nuts, her and the kids love all of em. I quess im just a carnivore. Ive replaced my junk with the granola (which is high in fibre) Had my weigh in today and i actually gained .2 lbs. Getting back to my first post of this thread could i have affected my metabolism with thie diet. Seriously for how hungry i always feel should i not have lost a lot more.

Ya !!! I am not big on fruits or veggies - drives my wife nuts, her and the kids love all of em. I quess im just a carnivore. Ive replaced my junk with the granola (which is high in fibre) Had my weigh in today and i actually gained .2 lbs. Getting back to my first post of this thread could i have affected my metabolism with thie diet. Seriously for how hungry i always feel should i not have lost a lot more.

Without knowing what you're eating, you could have.

Granola is good for you in moderation. As a rule, it's high in fat. Eat your veggies! They are only a few calories and you can eat lots of them.

If you are losing 2lbs / week, thats not bad. You will hit your goal in 3 months.
I'm no expert, but since you are not counting calories, you have to play it safe. If you were counting and watching macronutrients, you could probably eat more overall, not feel as hungry and still lose weight at the same rate provided you continue to lift.

OK - i dont eat unlimited amounts of granola a day. Two bars total. God i hate veggies!!! But i will try to eat em. Although on the bbq all veggies are good.

Any other thoughts out there.
THX

OK - i dont eat unlimited amounts of granola a day. Two bars total. God i hate veggies!!! But i will try to eat em. Although on the bbq all veggies are good.

Any other thoughts out there.
THX

Veggies can be really tasty if they're prepared correctly. They're perfect for stir-fries, soups and stews for example and that's how I get most of my veggies in my diet. I'm in the process of setting up a blog to chronicle my recipes and cooking, so if you need some inspiration feel free to check it out (the link is in my signature).

And do make sure that you get some good fats in there. Nuts, olive oil, fish oil, coconut oil, canola oil, egg yolk, red meat and so on.

J_W the link in your sig is wrong. It links to bodybyfood.blogspot.com... i tried bodybygrub.blogspot.com and that works :tucool:

J_W the link in your sig is wrong. It links to bodybyfood.blogspot.com... i tried bodybygrub.blogspot.com and that works :tucool:

Thanks for the heads up! :)