My wife heard on a tv show that some older men cannot lose their belly fat no matter how much exercise or nutrition control they use. She said the doctors recommended liposuction in those cases. NE buddy have any idea about this?

Probably a function of declining testosterone and/or high cortisol levels.

But I don't believe it can't happen. It's probably a bunch of uneducated people trying to cardio off the fat, going super low cals, and saying they can't progress.

Probably a function of declining testosterone and/or high cortisol levels.

But I don't believe it can't happen. It's probably a bunch of uneducated people trying to cardio off the fat, going super low cals, and saying they can't progress.

What you're saying makes sense to me. I tend to view any tv experts with skepticism. They usually try to say whatever they think makes the most people happy.

I personally have a problem area around my waist, but that doesn't mean that no older guys with belly fat can't find a way to rid themselves. I may just have to work harder than most to overcome the limitations. But I personally am not considering lipo. It's not the most important thing to me.

With your current situation, lipo would not be a good alternative. IMO.

My wife heard on a tv show that some older men cannot lose their belly fat no matter how much exercise or nutrition control they use. She said the doctors recommended liposuction in those cases. NE buddy have any idea about this?

I think that 99.9% of people if they eat and train right could get down to very low levels of bodyfat. This being said whether or not they will have some belly skin or fat remaining in my view depends on genetics eg. skin elasticity, amount of skin and genetic predisposition to fat dispersal/retention and redisposition on their individual bodies.
At the end of the day we are all different I don't know if I could ever get my lower abs to show through but I am happy to be less than perfect. I busted my ass though trying to find out.

My wife heard on a tv show


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I think that 99.9% of people if they eat and train right could get down to very low levels of bodyfat. This being said whether or not they will have some belly skin or fat remaining in my view depends on genetics eg. skin elasticity, amount of skin and genetic predisposition to fat dispersal/retention and redisposition on their individual bodies.
At the end of the day we are all different I don't know if I could ever get my lower abs to show through but I am happy to be less than perfect. I busted my ass though trying to find out.Well said bro!where theres a will theres a way.:tucool:

I knew a young gut at work who thought he worked out a lot but definately did not eat right. After I'd know him for a few months he told me that it didn't matter what he did, he could get rid of his "love handles" so was going to spend £3,000 to have liposuction!

Which he did.

Unfortunately I was fat myself and didn't know any better at the time to tell him otherwise.

This is what you get when you get your info from the TV, Newspapers and the guy next door!

With your current situation, lipo would not be a good alternative. IMO.

Not seriously considering it. Just something they mentioned, as so-called expert always do.

I'm curious, what about my situation makes me not a good subject for the lipo?

I think that 99.9% of people if they eat and train right could get down to very low levels of bodyfat

The most I could get down to was about 15% taking my measurements on a myotape at waist, hips, forearm, and wrist. That was after working with Swolecat. But I couldn't do weight training after the first 5 weeks because I injured myself. That was with diet and cardio only.

Unfortunately I was fat myself and didn't know any better at the time to tell him otherwise.

This is what you get when you get your info from the TV, Newspapers and the guy next door!

I lost about 40 lbs total. But when you're 145 and 5'8" you can't lose much more. It's about body recomp with me.

I'm curious, what about my situation makes me not a good subject for the lipo?

The most I could get down to was about 15% taking my measurements on a myotape at waist, hips, forearm, and wrist. That was after working with Swolecat. But I couldn't do weight training after the first 5 weeks because I injured myself. That was with diet and cardio only.

I lost about 40 lbs total. But when you're 145 and 5'8" you can't lose much more. It's about body recomp with me.You might not have a lot more "weight" to lose, but that's because you have hardly any lean body mass. If you want lean abs, you NEED TO LIFT!!!! There is no getting away from this.

Liposuction shouldn't be about reducing body fat percentage.

I can think of cases where it might make a bit of sense. Like if a person is already extremely lean in every area of their body except for one particular spot. If you were at 6 or 8, or even 10% body fat, but still had a piece of stubborn fat on your stomach, then you'd maybe be at a point where you might want to consider getting surgery to look after it.

But I'm not confident that it's true that there are men who can't get to 10% body fat. If they haven't yet, it's more likely that they haven't been training smartly enough than that they have a defect that makes it impossible to have a lean midsection.

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The most I could get down to was about 15% taking my measurements on a myotape at waist, hips, forearm, and wrist. That was after working with Swolecat. But I couldn't do weight training after the first 5 weeks because I injured myself. That was with diet and cardio only.



A good strategy would be to get more lean mass on you then have a another go at it.
I am confident if you were persistent enough you could get to sub 10% levels of bodyfat.

My wife heard on a tv show that some older men cannot lose their belly fat no matter how much exercise or nutrition control they use. She said the doctors recommended liposuction in those cases. NE buddy have any idea about this?

Aren't you about 5'10". 144lbs is low for someone 5'5". I think you need to gain more muscular weight. I will have to start following your journal again to see how workouts are going.

Aren't you about 5'10". 144lbs is low for someone 5'5". I think you need to gain more muscular weight. I will have to start following your journal again to see how workouts are going.

Man, I am sorry that I didn't keep up with journal. You have gone tru hell with operations. Don't get another one. Get off the cutting. I would like to see you gain weight. If you see your regular doctor ask him to check your T.

You know what system I would like to see you on for weight training - HIT. But I will support any way you go. I want to see 12 muscular pounds on you. In that process, you may pick up some pounds of fat.

start increasing calories 200 a week. Your motivation is the muscles and the increased metabolism and strength. How would you react to those operations 10 years from now? You want strength and muscle.

1999 insurance table

5'10 wearing 1 inch heels and 5lbs of clothes

144-154 small frame
151-163 medium frame
158-180 large frame

Everyone says these are wrong, they are too light. We can't use them. I would like to see you at 156lbs at least. Don't worry about a six pack or trim love handles for now. How heavy have you ever been?

Man, I am sorry that I didn't keep up with journal. You have gone tru hell with operations. Don't get another one. Get off the cutting. I would like to see you gain weight. If you see your regular doctor ask him to check your T.
I had my T tested and it was in the low 300s. My doctor said that was in the acceptable range. I thought it was kind of low but you know how doctors are. They want to keep you alive, not see you bulk up.

You know what system I would like to see you on for weight training - HIT. But I will support any way you go. I want to see 12 muscular pounds on you. In that process, you may pick up some pounds of fat.

start increasing calories 200 a week. Your motivation is the muscles and the increased metabolism and strength. How would you react to those operations 10 years from now? You want strength and muscle.
I'd love to start increasing my calories. I've been at maintanence or deficit for so long I can't remember anymore how long it's been. If you follow my journal you'll see how I've increased my lifting by 10-15 lbs in all lifts in the last 2 weeks.


1999 insurance table

5'10 wearing 1 inch heels and 5lbs of clothes

144-154 small frame
151-163 medium frame
158-180 large frame

Everyone says these are wrong, they are too light. We can't use them. I would like to see you at 156lbs at least. Don't worry about a six pack or trim love handles for now. How heavy have you ever been?
I'm at 148 with the latest creatine bloat. I once was at about 190.

I had my T tested and it was in the low 300s. My doctor said that was in the acceptable range. I thought it was kind of low but you know how doctors are. They want to keep you alive, not see you bulk up.

Ask to get a second opinion with an endocrinologist.

How do you feel? Energy wise, etc?

Ask to get a second opinion with an endocrinologist.

How do you feel? Energy wise, etc?

I have tons of energy. Course I drink 4 cups of coffee and 16 oz Lo-carb Monster every day. I don't remember a day without stimulants. I think I may have had a few right after my last surgery. It was awful. No problems in the gym though. I'm busting through all my lifting plateaus.

I'll see about a second opinion.