Check out this article on what happens if you eat 3 hours before bedtime..

Scroll down to the effects on growth hormone release during sleep..

Flies right in the face of eating 24/7 to stay anabolic..

http://www.shapefit.com/late-night-snacking.html

:eek:

Check out this article on what happens if you eat 3 hours before bedtime..

Scroll down to the effects on growth hormone release during sleep..

Flies right in the face of eating 24/7 to stay anabolic..

http://www.shapefit.com/late-night-snacking.html

:eek:

Any truth in this? If so My bedtime shakes are being drank at 8.45

About the author:

"Kris was an all state defensive lineman for Glencoe High School in Hillsboro, Oregon and excelled as a 4-year varsity golf team member. Kris graduated from Portland State University with a Bachelor of Science in Sociology and has been involved in Internet development since 1999."

:confused:

Also, I like how he just references a "researcher Dr. Misner" without providing any other information about who he is or what he does.

Not saying that you need a formal education to know your stuff but I wouldn't trust this guy's recommendations based on the limited information at hand.

I guess I am destined not to grow or gain strength then, because I eat every damn night before going to bed.

The researcher is:

Dr. Bill Misner Ph.D.
http://www.hammernutrition.com/za/HNT?PAGE=OUR_EXPERTS&ARTICLE.ID=569

Reference (ShapeFit.com Article):
Occhipinti, Mark J., M.S., Ph.D., N.D, & Misner, Dr. Bill, Ph.D., Weight Management, An Important Component of Health and Fitness, A Position Paper of the American Fitness Professionals and Associates (AFPA)

Here is another article on the subject by Dr. Misner:

http://www.afpafitness.com/articles/articles-and-newletters/research-articles-index/athletes-sports-conditioning/interventions-for-enhancing-lean-muscle-mass-gain-and-fat-mass-loss-during-strength-and-speed-training-protocols/

In his book Natural Hormonal Enhancement, Rob Faigin states "studies show that fasting prior to sleep can heighten sleep-related growth hormone output. Allowing ample time after consuming carbohydrate before retiring to bed will help maximize nighttime growth hormone release." [1,2]

[1] Serrano Rios M, et al. Nocturnal Growth Hormone Surges in Type 1 Diabetes Mellitus are Both Sleep and Glycemia Dependant: Assessment under Continuous Sleep Monitoring. Diabetes Res Clin Pract 1990;10:1

[2] Parker DC, Rossman LG, VanderLaan EF. Persistence of Rhythmic Human Growth Hormone Release during Sleep in Fasted and Nonisocalorically Fed Normal Subjects. Metabolism 1972;21:241

(PS: The ShapeFit.com article has been updated to include references.)

If I don't eat within 30 mins of going to bed, I feel sick to my stomach with hunger.

3 Hours without food? lol.

Check out this article on what happens if you eat 3 hours before bedtime..

Scroll down to the effects on growth hormone release during sleep..

Flies right in the face of eating 24/7 to stay anabolic..

I would say given my results that it can safely be ignored for people who work out late and deplete their glycogen a good deal. I normally eat about 1700 Calories in a single meal a few hours before bed, and about 900 of those Calories are carbs. And I've been pretty anabolic for the past few years.

So yeah, if you have the low-duration style workout maybe you need to think about your blood sugar staying high. But I think if you knock your glycogen right down on a regular basis, your blood sugar doesn't really stay spiked that much after you eat carbs.

In his book Natural Hormonal Enhancement, Rob Faigin states "studies show that fasting prior to sleep can heighten sleep-related growth hormone output.

Perhaps so. But you take a guy who fasts before sleep every night, and I'll take a guy who goes on a serious Smolov and who eats before bed every night and let's see who got more anabolic than who.

Breathing squats for the win... :nod:

Perhaps so. But you take a guy who fasts before sleep every night, and I'll take a guy who goes on a serious Smolov and who eats before bed every night and let's see who got more anabolic than who.

Breathing squats for the win... :nod:

The guy who fasts before sleeping would quickly find himself with his head underwater if he tried smolov

I also think somatotypes come into play. If you're an ectomorph (hardgainer), you can probably get away with eating carbs at night and not see any issues with fat gain. However if you're an endomorph, late night carb snacking will probably wreak havoc on body fat levels.

The guy who fasts before sleeping would quickly find himself with his head underwater if he tried smolov

So says the man who has done a Smolov.

And I think that is the point. If you look at the idea of nutrient timing for hormone release, you should do it in the context of your individual training, nutrition, and sleep. It's very clear that people get anabolic if they eat for a bulk and do a hard resistance program like a Smolov. So that sort of eating before sleep doesn't stop you from getting anabolic in every case.

Make it easy... The growth hormone you might release while sleeping if you don't eat prior to bed is so minimal as to make ZERO difference to your training.

Make it easy... The growth hormone you might release while sleeping if you don't eat prior to bed is so minimal as to make ZERO difference to your training.
Whereas the 1000 cals you get in before bed will make heaps :)

Whereas the 1000 cals you get in before bed will make heaps :)

Is that sarcasm?

Is that sarcasm?

Nope I was serious. :confused:

Nope I was serious. :confused:


Ok, just checking. I agree.

Is that sarcasm?

:lol: