Seems like I'm pretty much all alone around here, so I figured I'd start a thread (other than my journal) to see if anyone else has tried it out. here's a link to the eBook and an excerpt of the goals.

Waterbury 10/10 transformation (http://www.chadwaterbury.com/products.html)

Most people are closer to their ideal physique than they realize. For years I’ve designed novel training
programs to build muscle and lose fat. People have definitely gained a lot of muscle and lost a lot of
fat on my programs. Problem is, most people don’t arrange their training and nutrition plans to get the
most dramatic, visual results as fast as possible.
For example, a good muscle-building phase will sometimes put on a little extra fat. That’s okay. It’s
a consequence of not fine-tuning your nutrition plan enough for maximum results. And sometimes,
your fat loss phase leaves you with less muscle than you started.
But I’m here to tell you that if you gain 10 pounds of muscle and lose 10 pounds of fat, it will
drastically transform your physique. I’m serious. It doesn’t sound like much to gain and lose 10
pounds of muscle and fat, respectively, but it’ll make a world of difference.

So far, I'm ending Phase I - and I've seen some pretty impressive results. I decided to use the 12 week program to break my plateau where I'd been for nearly 2 months.

The workouts are INTENSE and very satisfying - full-body, but differeny exercises and set/rep schemes everyday keeps things interesting.

I like most of what Waterbury says. I used Total Body Training exclusively for about a year and a half and gained quite a bit of muscle on the plan. Today I still employ the same philosophies (full body workouts frequently with compound exercises, etc).

I kinda have a problem paying for a workout plan though. I don't know. It just seems wrong. That's nothing against him. I just don't like the idea.

The big thing I would like to see is a nutrition aspect. Is there one in the 10/10 transformation?

I kinda have a problem paying for a workout plan though. I don't know. It just seems wrong. That's nothing against him. I just don't like the idea.

That's like saying buying books is wrong.

You are paying for knowledge, experience, and creativity. :blank:

I agree with the sentiment that there are lots of free resources on the net where you can find great deals of workout information for free, so the average person doesn't have to buy a plan or hire a trainer, but more power to the guys that make a living at this being able to sell products if they are quality stuff.

That's like saying buying books is wrong.

You are paying for knowledge, experience, and creativity. :blank:

I agree with the sentiment that there are lots of free resources on the net where you can find great deals of workout information for free, so the average person doesn't have to buy a plan or hire a trainer, but more power to the guys that make a living at this being able to sell products if they are quality stuff.

:nod:

I didn't have to buy it, but $20 seemed like a good deal. I'd MUCH rather spend the money with a qualified, experienced trainer than a wonder pill that's going to get me ripped and huge in 2 weeks with a full 8-pack of abs (anabolic halo). Nowadays, you'd be hard pressed to find a pill less than $50/month.

I guess part of my reasoning for using trainers (I can say that in the plural since I was on SGX too) is exactly for the reason MB pointed out - there really is a HUGE amount of free information available and I want an expert to guide me through it.

I'd hire Mastover if I could, but Waterbury will have to do... :)

Seems like I'm pretty much all alone around here, so I figured I'd start a thread (other than my journal) to see if anyone else has tried it out. here's a link to the eBook and an excerpt of the goals.

Waterbury 10/10 transformation (http://www.chadwaterbury.com/products.html)

Most people are closer to their ideal physique than they realize. For years I’ve designed novel training
programs to build muscle and lose fat. People have definitely gained a lot of muscle and lost a lot of
fat on my programs. Problem is, most people don’t arrange their training and nutrition plans to get the
most dramatic, visual results as fast as possible.
For example, a good muscle-building phase will sometimes put on a little extra fat. That’s okay. It’s
a consequence of not fine-tuning your nutrition plan enough for maximum results. And sometimes,
your fat loss phase leaves you with less muscle than you started.
But I’m here to tell you that if you gain 10 pounds of muscle and lose 10 pounds of fat, it will
drastically transform your physique. I’m serious. It doesn’t sound like much to gain and lose 10
pounds of muscle and fat, respectively, but it’ll make a world of difference.

So far, I'm ending Phase I - and I've seen some pretty impressive results. I decided to use the 12 week program to break my plateau where I'd been for nearly 2 months.

The workouts are INTENSE and very satisfying - full-body, but differeny exercises and set/rep schemes everyday keeps things interesting.

Great link, I just downloaded the 10/10. I now live close to the local gym and this will help me quite a bit, thanks!.

Rogo

can you post before & after pictures to show the difference you are seeing? I'm interested in the program.

:o

When I'm finished, I will. I'm hoping this finally breaks me out of skinny fat, so far so good. :)

I don't think this is a program for the beginner, for sure, but it seems like it's really working getting that last bit of stubborn fat off.

My issue is the full body workouts....

I just don't have a good enough gas tank to really scorch all of the exercise....
Once I get through 3 or 4 exercises, I hit diminishing returns...

For bulking, I use the less is more approach.
3 or maybe 4 exercises, low volume with big weight...
3 to 5 working sets in the 80%-90% max area...usually leads to sets of 3-5 reps.

Yep, its full body - but it's not quite as intense as Rippetoe or 5x5. It uses more of a superset approach, with varying set/reps/weight to prevent burnout. It's closer to the WS4SB plan, but the exercises are a little less daunting.

So, even though it's total body training I don't feel like I'm squatting and deadlifting 5 times a week. This is definitly a less is more program. Each phase is different, and at $5 a phase its really a good read.

My issue is the full body workouts....

I just don't have a good enough gas tank to really scorch all of the exercise....
Once I get through 3 or 4 exercises, I hit diminishing returns...

For bulking, I use the less is more approach.
3 or maybe 4 exercises, low volume with big weight...
3 to 5 working sets in the 80%-90% max area...usually leads to sets of 3-5 reps.


Full body takes a bit of work to get work capacity up. You also have to manage loads via varying set/rep schemes, alternating heavy exercises for lower/back exercises, etc.

I tend to alternate between full body and upper/lower work. Most of my strength gains came during my first year of full body. But some of that I'm sure is beginner gains.

Seems like I'm pretty much all alone around here, so I figured I'd start a thread (other than my journal) to see if anyone else has tried it out. here's a link to the eBook and an excerpt of the goals.

Waterbury 10/10 transformation (http://www.chadwaterbury.com/products.html)

Most people are closer to their ideal physique than they realize. For years I’ve designed novel training
programs to build muscle and lose fat. People have definitely gained a lot of muscle and lost a lot of
fat on my programs. Problem is, most people don’t arrange their training and nutrition plans to get the
most dramatic, visual results as fast as possible.
For example, a good muscle-building phase will sometimes put on a little extra fat. That’s okay. It’s
a consequence of not fine-tuning your nutrition plan enough for maximum results. And sometimes,
your fat loss phase leaves you with less muscle than you started.
But I’m here to tell you that if you gain 10 pounds of muscle and lose 10 pounds of fat, it will
drastically transform your physique. I’m serious. It doesn’t sound like much to gain and lose 10
pounds of muscle and fat, respectively, but it’ll make a world of difference.

So far, I'm ending Phase I - and I've seen some pretty impressive results. I decided to use the 12 week program to break my plateau where I'd been for nearly 2 months.

The workouts are INTENSE and very satisfying - full-body, but differeny exercises and set/rep schemes everyday keeps things interesting.

Overall I thought it was/is a good program. However, my gym is a bit busy and it is hard to do the circuit style training because it is so busy and a lot of machines/db's, etc are taken.

Overall I thought it was/is a good program. However, my gym is a bit busy and it is hard to do the circuit style training because it is so busy and a lot of machines/db's, etc are taken.

Yep, I agree. Phase 1 would be tough in a gym. The good side is that you can do almost everything with minimal stuff at home, some dumbbells, a barbell, and a pullup bar and you've got 85% of what you need.

I ended up using my ez curl bar for circuits where I needed two bars. I'm almost to the point where I've outgrown my Cap Barbell cheap 300lb set's bar. I'm gonna ask for a Pendlay for my birthday or xmas.

I was able to do the singleleg deadlift with the ezcurl without too many problems. I need a dip belt tho. :dance: