I've read that ingesting table sugar stops your fat loss for 4-5 hours.

What about fruit like peaches and nutrasweet or splenda? Do they cause the same effect?

....and where did you glean this apparently "revolutionary" discovery from?

Yes I am interested in this as well...I use Splenda in my coffee everyday and only drink diet drinks. I am doing a no to low carb diet, but I eat fruit still to maintain some type of sanity. Is the sugar from the fruit really that bad?

Doubleoqueso turned me onto an article that was about FRUCTOSE.

Fructose is in almost all fruits and many vegetables. It is what is immediately taken up by your liver. You wake up with an empty liver and when you eat sugar/fructose the liver fills... from that point on since it is full, the over signals the pancreas to release insulin when you eat sugars, which then break down the sugar you eat and transport the broken down glycogen to the cells via the bloodstream in order to give you energy.

Problem is though that eat too much fructose and your insulin levels are high, and this stops fat loss.

**i am no expert, if i am wrong here please politely tell me so**

Therefore, when you eat alot of fruits and veggies containing fructose you find it hard to lose the last bit of fat you are trying to shed...

Table sugar is 50% fructose and 50% glucose.
High fructose corn syrup is in almost everything because it is super cheap to make, and it is 100% fructose.

That article is not working or else i would post it. it is giving me an sql error.

But that is the gist of it anyhow.

There's about five thousand worse things you can eat than fruit. On the list of things to eliminate from your diet fruit comes somewhere way at the bottom. It all depends on how strict you want to be. Worrying about fructose from fruit shouldn't be a concern until you're in the single digits (for a man) and wanting to go lower IMO.

Fibrous veggies I would never cut out. Ever.

What you are stating is a simplification of the concept that if the body has a ready supply of carbs to digest it will use that for energy, not fat. Thus the premise of something like ketosis: eliminate the carbs and glycogen and require the body to convert fat. Often you'll hear this stated as "don't eat carbs after LISS cardio" for this reason.

Again- way over simplified... there's some science behind it... but it's not something to worry abouty unless you want to get into ultra-low carb dieting like keto.

all i know is that i would not have bin able to go down from 15 and a half stones to 10stones 2 pounds in 9 months if it wasnt for the cutting of ALL sugar. if you want a 6 pac and cant have tea or coffee without sugar... dont have tea or coffee. no juices, diet sodas o anything the body may convey to your mind as sweet including fruit. this shocks the body and has an amazing effect.

However i am not sure on sweeteners as i have only started using them in coffee and so far there is no sign of loss of progress. no scientific study can answer these questions as different peoples bodys react differently. hearing normal peoples experiences help. if anybody has extra info on sweeteners by experience please share

There's about five thousand worse things you can eat than fruit. On the list of things to eliminate from your diet fruit comes somewhere way at the bottom. It all depends on how strict you want to be. Worrying about fructose from fruit shouldn't be a concern until you're in the single digits (for a man) and wanting to go lower IMO.

Fibrous veggies I would never cut out. Ever.

that isnt at all what i was saying. i was saying that if a person is trying to lose the last little bit of fat (say the last inch to actually be able to see a six pack) and they are stalled, they might cut out the sweet fruits like green/yellow apples and bananas after say noon... thats all.

I was asking more about the effect natural sugar and sweeteners have on fat loss- because table sugar stops fat loss for 4-5 hours.

because table sugar stops fat loss for 4-5 hours.

Where did you read that?:confused:

I was asking more about the effect natural sugar and sweeteners have on fat loss- because table sugar stops fat loss for 4-5 hours.

Again- read my post above. No- it doesn't specifically stop fat loss.

I was asking more about the effect natural sugar and sweeteners have on fat loss- because table sugar stops fat loss for 4-5 hours.

what most ppl here are telling you is that it doesnt STOP it, but hinders it. makes it so the food you eat after ingesting a sizeable ammount of sugar is generally broken down faster due to insulin spike that the sugar gives you, and over time this can cause weight gain the opposite of weight loss.

but no, if you are cutting and make yourself a quart of lemonade with tons of sugar, you wont suddenly STOP fat loss.

that isnt really how the body works anyhow. it isnt like a car with an ignition, you can only speed up and slow down certain processes (like fat loss/fat gain) and not stop them entirely.

so the short answer is no: table sugar does not stop fat loss

Where did you read that?:confused:

Some where about a fasting diet type of fat loss plan.

It said "to will away sugar cravings, tell yourself when you have sweet that you are ok with not burning fat for the next 4-5 hours"

Literal I have been.

Some where about a fasting diet type of fat loss plan.

It said "to will away sugar cravings, tell yourself when you have sweet that you are ok with not burning fat for the next 4-5 hours"

Literal I have been.

ok well that isnt true.... case in point, go ahead and eat a bunch of potato at that point, and the same thing happens as if you were to eat sugar. no fat loss because you just ate a bunch of starchy carbs.

how about artificial sugar? diet coke? do those have the same kind of effect or do they essentially pass through the body like water?

how about artificial sugar? diet coke? do those have the same kind of effect or do they essentially pass through the body like water?

I'm no chemist, but I've been drinking diet coke and eating splenda throughout my cut, with no drawbacks as far as my fat loss is concerned.

I think the jury's still out on the effects of aspartame as a carcinogen, and splenda's chemical makeup and its effects on humans, but nothing's been PROVEN harmful thus far, and I'm hedging my bets.

how about artificial sugar? diet coke? do those have the same kind of effect or do they essentially pass through the body like water?

some people can see a spike insulin wise from these. not as bad as sugar, but it can happen.

sometimes people doing a low carb diet can find that they stall by eating artificial sweeteners like splenda/aspartame.

anyhow, usually not an issue, but for some it can have the same effect as sugar can, however without the actual calories.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/2923074?ordinalpos=32&itool=EntrezSystem2.PEntrez.Pubmed.Pubmed_ResultsP anel.Pubmed_RVDocSum

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/2923074?ordinalpos=32&itool=EntrezSystem2.PEntrez.Pubmed.Pubmed_ResultsP anel.Pubmed_RVDocSum
That's what I like to see.

There are enough people on JSF who say, "I've been drinking the stuff [diet pop] and haven't seen any setbacks" that I don't really care about it lol; and the fact that I possibly cannot ever break my addiction to diet mountain dew :o ..

i have sugar in my weights and cardio shake and has never harmed me