View Full Version : Is Television Dead?


HevyMetal
Sun, July 13th, 2008, 10:11 PM
More and more I encounter people who don't watch T.V......at all.

I watch T.V.

But I'm getting kind of ticked off with it.


Too many inane commercials...too many dumb reality programs...too much commercial content...and...it isn't interactive.

Just about anything that's on T.V., I can see on the net.

And.....I can see artist's work on the net that I can't see on T.V.

Back in the day I'd watch The News Hour....now I can't be bothered.

The news is much quicker and faster on the Net without all the accompanying fluff and personality b.s. you get on the News Hour.

All I ever see on The News Hour is people crying. Every friggin' story has somebody blubbering.

And.....a lot of T.V. news is complete untruth and b.s.

Around the net you can form an educated opinion by getting a second or third opinion.

I have a friend that's into marketing....and he told me that some advertisers are dumping T.V. in droves, because the return is not worth the investment anymore.

A lot of the new generation does not watch T.V.....they are too busy with their X-boxes, My-Space, You-tube and talking on the I-phone.

This is the first generation in decades that is not dependant on T.V. for entertainment (or anything else).

But a lot of my older counterparts have abandoned it too...for exactrly the same reason.

:eek:

How about you?

zenpharaohs
Sun, July 13th, 2008, 10:56 PM
Television jumped the shark before the shark jump was on television.

Pete5
Sun, July 13th, 2008, 11:53 PM
I go on the internet way more than I watch television. I don't play any video games either. About the only thing I watch is Ultimate Fighter and I download that onto my Ipod.

astroguy
Mon, July 14th, 2008, 12:05 AM
I don't actually have a TV ....

chicanerous
Mon, July 14th, 2008, 12:27 AM
I don't think television is dead at all. With extended channel listings, pay per view, on demand, streaming internet channels, internet set-top boxes, etc. "television" seems to be alive and well to me.

This past year I've watched seasons from (or the entire series):

24
Alias
Angel
Battlestar Galactica
Bionic Woman
Chuck
Dark Angel
Dresden Files
Entourage
Eureka
Heroes
Jericho
Journeyman
Kyle XY
Life
Lost
Make Me a Supermodel
Point Pleasant
Rome
Roswell
Smallville
Supernatural
Terminator: The Sarah Connors Chronicles
Ultraviolet
X-Files

Many of these were currently or are still in play. Next season I'm picking up:

Crusoe
Dollhouse
Fringe
True Blood

Mantis
Mon, July 14th, 2008, 01:12 AM
I stopped watching TV long ago. I have a nice 61" HDTV that is used almost soley for dvd movies when friends come over. I almost exclusively watch the shows I like from my computer. As a matter of fact, I was most movies I want to see on the computer as well.

I have a television on in the kitchen whenever im cooking, and Ill occasionally pop on something when im lifting if the mood strikes me. However, I have to say that 95% of my show/movie watching is done on my computer. I own an xbox and ps2 that I never play also. When i do play video games, its on the computer.

Television is dead for now, but it will rebound. Eventually cable/satellite companies will be installing computers built in their set top boxes that will give everyone a virtual "media pc" plugged into their TV where they can watch anything they want with a click. Like Comcast's "On Demand" only with stuff you actually want to see.

Jokat
Mon, July 14th, 2008, 02:01 AM
I never watch TV. Having said that though, I must add that I love series. Lost, Jericho and the like. But I watch those on DVD mostly because I cannot fit TV into my busy schedule.

Nowhereman
Mon, July 14th, 2008, 03:05 AM
Tivo is my best and worst friend. But to me TV is doing well. I do hate reality TV though, and everyone I work with loves it :rolleyes:

This year I watched

Law and Orders (all of them)
How I Met Your Mother
House
Smallville
Supernatural
Heroes
Scrubs
My Name is Earl
Numb3rs
Psych
Monk
Burn Notice
Life
Prison Break (on DVD)
The Batman
Spiderman
Daily Show
The Colbert Report

I plan to watch The Cleaner on Tuesday.

I think comedies are slowly dying though.

JoeSchmo
Mon, July 14th, 2008, 04:14 AM
I don't actually have a TV ....

Yeah, I didn't have a TV from 2000-2006. I was in grad school living in NYC, where there is no reception and I was too poor to afford cable. I didn't really miss it.....

I don't think TV is dead, just people's viewing habits have changed -- 10-15 years ago, I think people watched alot of the same shows....usually the network shows -- but now, there is lots of good stuff on cable that people watch.

I don't really tune in to any specific shows or series very often....I mostly flip the channels until I find something that looks interesting. The channels I watch most are: NatGeo, MSNBC, TruTV, TBS, and the Discovery channels. I am pretty bored by everything else.

Doubleoqueso
Mon, July 14th, 2008, 11:58 AM
I haven't watched TV in over 5 years. I grew up in a family of TV addicts, and hated TV at a young age. I have a television set now, but all it's hooked up to is a PS2. I barely even watch movies. I absolutely hate advertising, product placement, propoganda, and all the other filth that comes along with "television".

Agon
Mon, July 14th, 2008, 01:47 PM
I have a TV with a home theater system, but I don't subscribe to any cable services. I use it mostly for watching DVDs.

The way I see it is I can't justify paying to stream advertising into my home. I can get the exact same content online without commercials and I don't have to be around when it's scheduled. I have a MythTV box, so I could record it, but instead I use it to store all my media watch it on my TV at my leisure. With all the other available entertainment mediums and forms, I really find it hard to justify wasting time on one so proliferated with advertising. As for pay per view movies et al. I prefer my subscription to Netflix at the moment.

dkmahkee
Mon, July 14th, 2008, 01:47 PM
I don't think TV is dead really. I still watch plenty of shows, though very rarely will i watch NETWORK tv, i usually watch satellite channels (Food Network? :drool:) and *some* reality tv, which isn't really because I think its real, just because I think its funny (like I :heart: MOney on Vh1). I also like watching reruns of some of the shows I used to like when I was growing up. (like old Cosby shows, etc). So its not dead (for me anyway), I'm sure others feel similarly.

rtestes
Mon, July 14th, 2008, 02:21 PM
at least one TV is on in my house about 12 or more hours a day. I watch a few series. Mostly I watch movies, DVDs or TCM with History, National Geographic, Science, Smithsonian and Discovery. I only watch Fox news but where news was my most watched programs on TV, I have quit nearly entirely.

There is one good movie or TV series produced for every 100 filling up the airwaves. There isn't much talent in TV and movies, and none in music, any more. Who is going to turn the lights out?

So the house is full of noise at all times and the electric bill is high.

Hort
Mon, July 14th, 2008, 04:22 PM
I have a friend that's into marketing....and he told me that some advertisers are dumping T.V. in droves, because the return is not worth the investment anymore.

Not dead- just shifting delivery platforms- I work in broadcasting.... Ad agencies are still spending billions on TV content- but now they spend it on air and online. There's great data to show that ads are becoming hyper effective when a person sees them on TV and online.

There were a number of reports that said people were abandoning TV in droves... turns out that it is more complex than I can explain in a brief email. Yes- viewers watching say, LOST on TV are down, but when you add in those watching ONLINE- the number was the same as last season.

And there is the problem - audience tracking methodologies have to change radically to keep up with the growing options- and there is no inexpensive way to get a complete picture of consumer consumption, so it is really challenging the business model of ad-supported programming. The intert00b is breaking everybody's biz model: TV, radio, print, even the intertoob's... it's going to take time for the ad world to catch up.

Sometimes people forgot the ONE reason youtube exists: to sell ads. That's it. That's Google's entire raison d'etre. Everything they launch or do is to increase web traffic to sell ads.... so they can do more. If you haven't noticed it already- pop-up ads and overlays are starting to appear in youtube content to.

Somebody has to pay for it.


All this said- I still love TV... especially HD- many great channels relatively light on ads. That will change in time.

I actually saw a demo for a system that will make TV very interactive. It works pretty well but it's a long way from mass market- largely, again, because of how the revenue model will work.

tsk2264
Mon, July 14th, 2008, 07:20 PM
Do sporting events count in this discussion? If so, then no...television is by no means dead or dying. Just consider the sheer amount of events that are covered. Watching a football game in HD is quite an experience now. Summer has become my "boring" part of the year because I find myself just waiting for the CFB season to begin. Plus, with the versatility/flexibility you get with a simple DVR + sling-box set-up...it's almost impossible to miss anything being broadcast. I love television, but primarily for the sporting events.

Hockey4
Mon, July 14th, 2008, 08:16 PM
I can see how if I was married and had a family, I would probably watch little to no TV (well, except Sabres games).

But being a single, twenty-something means I have plenty of time after working all day and lifting to sit on the couch. I can only spend so long on the Internet before I realize it'd be a good time to sit around for an hour and watch Lost.

While TV is far from dead, it is hurting.

Chadster
Mon, July 14th, 2008, 09:07 PM
I really enjoy well-written series, but the commercials are getting ridiculous. I like NCIS and CSI Miami a lot. And sports are great. But all in all I like browsing the web much more. :tucool:

As a side note, I have become a junkie with text messaging. It might seem juvenile but I would rather chat at my own pace and wherever I want without having to meet up somewhere.

OrangeTiger
Mon, July 14th, 2008, 09:45 PM
I'll be watching again when Rescue Me comes back...

digitalnebula
Tue, July 15th, 2008, 11:27 PM
Comcast has this channel called HD Theater and they have a program
called "Sunrise Earth." It is nothing but a high-def program showing the sights and sounds of nature from a remote corner of the world as the sun rises....it is one of the most calming things I could ever ask for.

I also like watching "The Deadliest Catch" on the Discovery Channel...those guys are animals. I would love to do that job!!! I would drop everything to go up there and give it a try. :nod:

zenpharaohs
Wed, July 16th, 2008, 12:08 AM
And there is the problem - audience tracking methodologies have to change radically to keep up with the growing options- and there is no inexpensive way to get a complete picture of consumer consumption, so it is really challenging the business model of ad-supported programming.

One of the best statisticians I ever came across was a guy we hired (at my previous firm) out of A. C. Nielsen. If they have more like him, they will figure it out.

profdlp
Wed, July 16th, 2008, 01:49 PM
I spend more time dusting my TV (about five minutes per week) than I do watching it.

Too busy here at JSF. :D