One source of protein is milk however many sources recommend people who have fat issues to limit their milk consumption. I drink low fat milk which has 2.5 gr of milk fat (whatever that is) per 250 ml so if I have drink a litre a day would that hinder my fat loss effort?

According to my `keep fat in check` book (I got from a nutritionist) low fat milk only has 2 grm of saturated and 1 grm of unsaturated fat per 250 ml - so I can`t see how milk is detrimental.

One source of protein is milk however many sources recommend people who have fat issues to limit their milk consumption. I drink low fat milk which has 2.5 gr of milk fat (whatever that is) per 250 ml so if I have drink a litre a day would that hinder my fat loss effort?

According to my `keep fat in check` book (I got from a nutritionist) low fat milk only has 2 grm of saturated and 1 grm of unsaturated fat per 250 ml - so I can`t see how milk is detrimental.

the concern is about lactose (milk sugar) and lactose intolerance... Are you concerned about the carb quantitities in your diet? I am always more concerned about that than good fats ;)

the concern is about lactose (milk sugar) and lactose intolerance... Are you concerned about the carb quantitities in your diet? I am always more concerned about that than good fats ;)


I want protein - 1 litre of my low fat milk gives me 40 gr

Carbs are OK - 60 gr - I can give up a bit of rice/potatoes to accommodate this

It`s the fat I worried about/ 10 gr of milk fat a day, but it might be better than having whole eggs (which is recommended)

I suppose I can tolerate lactose - how would I know?

Just don`t want to see my LDL cholestral go up.

One source of protein is milk however many sources recommend people who have fat issues to limit their milk consumption. I drink low fat milk which has 2.5 gr of milk fat (whatever that is) per 250 ml so if I have drink a litre a day would that hinder my fat loss effort?

According to my `keep fat in check` book (I got from a nutritionist) low fat milk only has 2 grm of saturated and 1 grm of unsaturated fat per 250 ml - so I can`t see how milk is detrimental.There's a few misconceptions there.

Milk is not a stellar source of protein. Sure it provides protein, but it also provides carbohydrates, and various amounts of fat, depending on which type you drink.

I'm not sure what the "keep fat in check" book recommends, but it's not true that dietary fat intake contributes to fat gain any more than protein or carbohydrate consumption does. In fact, some experts would say that carbohydrates like the sugar in milk are more likely to make you fat than the fats in oils or meats.

It's also not true that saturated fat will make your LDL cholesterol go up, though a lot of people still believe this. More likely causes of increased LDL is too much trans fats, not enough omega-3 fatty acids and/or too many sugars and starches.

In fat loss studies, milk consumption has been shown to improve fat loss. Here on the forums, many people who are trying to get to very low body fat percentages find that it's easier to do with very low consumption of foods and beverages containing starches and sugars, including milk. Everyone has different reactions to milk, and you'll have to just experiment and see how it works for you.

If you're looking to increase your protein, some sources you might want to try are cottage cheese and/or egg whites.

There's a few misconceptions there.

Milk is not a stellar source of protein. Sure it provides protein, but it also provides carbohydrates, and various amounts of fat, depending on which type you drink.

I'm not sure what the "keep fat in check" book recommends, but it's not true that dietary fat intake contributes to fat gain any more than protein or carbohydrate consumption does. In fact, some experts would say that carbohydrates like the sugar in milk are more likely to make you fat than the fats in oils or meats.

It's also not true that saturated fat will make your LDL cholesterol go up, though a lot of people still believe this. More likely causes of increased LDL is too much trans fats, not enough omega-3 fatty acids and/or too many sugars and starches.

In fat loss studies, milk consumption has been shown to improve fat loss. Here on the forums, many people who are trying to get to very low body fat percentages find that it's easier to do with very low consumption of foods and beverages containing starches and sugars, including milk. Everyone has different reactions to milk, and you'll have to just experiment and see how it works for you.

If you're looking to increase your protein, some sources you might want to try are cottage cheese and/or egg whites.

Excellent post :dreamy:

When bulking, I almost have to drink skim milk....I need it in my protein shakes to get my calorie number up.
Since it is skim milk, it has no fat....but like others have said, the main reason most avoid it is due to either the lactose factor or the unwanted carbs.

When bulking, I almost have to drink skim milk....I need it in my protein shakes to get my calorie number up.
Since it is skim milk, it has no fat....but like others have said, the main reason most avoid it is due to either the lactose factor or the unwanted carbs.

Have you tried Whole Milk when bulking Digi? You'd be retaining more of the vitamins and nutrients of the milk and the total calories would go up per unit volume.

The only downside I can think of is that if your using it to spike insulin after a post-workout shake the fat might lessen the insulin response.

Thanks for the enlightenment. I have been drinking 1/2 to 1 litre of milk for 4 years now and in that time I have managed to lose weight - by just consuming fewer calories. I can assume therefore that my low fat milk is all right for me though it might not provide the best kind of protein. I wonder why cottage cheese (an maybe yoghurt) is better protein as it is derived from milk.

How much omega 3 do I need daily to keep LDL in check?

The protein is good quality, but the protein/calorie ratio isn't that great.

Have you tried Whole Milk when bulking Digi? You'd be retaining more of the vitamins and nutrients of the milk and the total calories would go up per unit volume.


2% would probably work a little better...but....
It may sound lame, but I generally use my fats strategically as a flavor enhancer...it makes the higher cals more tolerable when bulking....
Ounce of cheese on the eggs in the morning, another with my 3:00 meal, couple tbls of natty PB before bed, not-so-lean ground beef, and not-so-lean cuts of steak...:drool:

I tried the whole milk before, but it quickly dominated my fats.
The skim helps with cals and protein shake flavor but is more of a protein/carb tool when I use it.

How much omega 3 do I need daily to keep LDL in check?

I've never read of it lowering LDL. However, it has been shown in cases to increase HDL a bit.

Milk tastes great, but I have not drank any in quite a while.

Lots of farmers enjoy pumping drugs into cows. You drink their milk = you drink those hormones/drugs.

Milk tastes great, but I have not drank any in quite a while.

Lots of farmers enjoy pumping drugs into cows. You drink their milk = you drink those hormones/drugs.


Quite true

but I can`t think of any food stuffs that haven`t been contaminated with drugs/hormones/insecticide.

I notice some guys are taking splenda as a sugar replacement - splenda is also a poison, of the carcinogenic variety.

People tell me to eat free range chicken but they are just adulerated as the batteried ones.

It may sound lame, but I generally use my fats strategically as a flavor enhancer...it makes the higher cals more tolerable when bulking....
Ounce of cheese on the eggs in the morning, another with my 3:00 meal, couple tbls of natty PB before bed, not-so-lean ground beef, and not-so-lean cuts of steak...:drool:

Not at all, I do the same thing myself :p.

I was reading an article the other day that in essence said:-

The best milk you could ever drink would be right out of the cow's udder.

Regardless of whether it's whole milk or fat free....Pasteurizing alters the content of the milk. However, we are told Pasteurizing is good for us. It isn't.

Pasteurizing does kill off some harmful bacteria that may have found it's way into the milk...but along with that process a number of other good things are killed off too.

But.....once you start removing fat from milk en masse, you remove a lot of the nutrients needed to make the protein,calcium and other nutrients work for you.

Drinking a cup of fat free milk is the same thing as having virtual sex with an internet cyborg.....it felt good but it really just isn't the same.

Drinking a cup of fat free milk is the same thing as having virtual sex with an internet cyborg.....it felt good but it really just isn't the same.

:eek::eek::eek:!!! :nono:

Fat free cottage cheese is your friend on a cut - 60 gms of protein per lb for only 280-300 calories, depending on brand.