View Full Version : Low fat protein sources


dso
Thu, June 5th, 2008, 05:14 PM
I've found that what works best for me is a low fat, high protein diet. I don't have much success with low carb diets,etc. Anyhow, I'm looking for ways to get protein w/o all the fat. I eat egg whites, skinless chicken, FF cottage cheese,turkey and protein shakes. I want to add some other meats but even lean ground beef is high in fat. Pork is high in fat. Shrimp has alot of cholesterol. Nuts...high in fat. What meats or sources of protein am I not considering that is low in fat?

astroguy
Thu, June 5th, 2008, 09:13 PM
Do you like fish? There are several kinds of fish that are low in fat. Tuna comes to mind.

vertigo88
Thu, June 5th, 2008, 09:20 PM
Trout, shrimp, crap, lobster!!

dso
Thu, June 5th, 2008, 10:01 PM
Good suggestions, thanks. I eat a can of tuna a day on my salads.

Anyone like imitation crab meat?

kevin_in_ga
Fri, June 6th, 2008, 11:42 AM
Trout, shrimp, crap, lobster!!

I can only agree with 3 of these 4 choices ... :rolleyes:

JoeSchmo
Fri, June 6th, 2008, 02:36 PM
Shrimp has alot of cholesterol. Nuts...high in fat. What meats or sources of protein am I not considering that is low in fat?

Dietary cholesterol isn't that big of a deal ... It doesn't contribute that much to serum cholesterol levels. Nuts are high in fat, but it is the good kind of fat. Salmon is a great protein source that is also high in fat, but it is the omega-3 fats...which is what you want.

Cutting out all fats isn't the answer for a successful fat loss program IMO. Manipulating macros may be useful, but the really important thing for any fat loss program (IMO) is to make sure that you are eating good quality whole foods without exceeding your daily caloric requirements. I haven't seen too many people who didn't lose fat while taking this approach.

JoeSchmo
Fri, June 6th, 2008, 02:36 PM
I can only agree with 3 of these 4 choices ... :rolleyes:

LOL....I didn't notice that until just now. :lol:

astroguy
Fri, June 6th, 2008, 03:27 PM
Dietary cholesterol isn't that big of a deal ... It doesn't contribute that much to serum cholesterol levels.

I can only tell you what my doctor said, and what my dad says (who researches heart disease). They both say that if you have a history of high cholesterol in your family (which I do, both my parents, all my grandparents), then you should reduce your consumption of foods with cholesterol - keep it to a minimum.

JoeSchmo
Fri, June 6th, 2008, 08:04 PM
I can only tell you what my doctor said, and what my dad says (who researches heart disease). They both say that if you have a history of high cholesterol in your family (which I do, both my parents, all my grandparents), then you should reduce your consumption of foods with cholesterol - keep it to a minimum.

Well, the portion of serum cholesterol obtained from dietary cholesterol is small -- which, for somebody (like you) with a specific genetic predisposition for hypercholesterolemia, it may make a difference. For most people however, the worry about dietary cholesterol is far out of proportion with its actual dangers....The typical person doesn't need to worry too much about it.

MannishBoy
Fri, June 6th, 2008, 08:37 PM
I can only tell you what my doctor said, and what my dad says (who researches heart disease). They both say that if you have a history of high cholesterol in your family (which I do, both my parents, all my grandparents), then you should reduce your consumption of foods with cholesterol - keep it to a minimum.

I have a history in my family of high cholesterol, but switching to a higher fat diet that even includes lots of saturated fats even with controlled carbs actually improved my numbers.

Also they are finding out it is even only a subset of LDL cholesterol that is bad, and that's the small particle LDL. The large sized LDL is thought to be pretty benign, and that's the type that rises from natural animal fats like eggs.

Note that I'm not saying everybody should switch to a high fat diet, I'm just pointing out my experience personally is against the hyped "fat is evil" norm.

But we all respond differently, so YMMV. There are some hyper-responders to dietary cholesterol, just not as many as was once believed. Maybe 10% from the egg studies I've read.

dso
Sat, June 7th, 2008, 07:41 AM
High cholesterol is a big issue on my dads side of the family. My grandfather had it, and my dad had a minor heart attack about 6 years ago. Thats why I'm a little hesitant about eating cholesterol. I usual try to stay between 20-30 g of fat a day on my diet.

MannishBoy
Sat, June 7th, 2008, 09:55 AM
High cholesterol is a big issue on my dads side of the family. My grandfather had it, and my dad had a minor heart attack about 6 years ago. Thats why I'm a little hesitant about eating cholesterol. I usual try to stay between 20-30 g of fat a day on my diet.


Cholesterol and triglycerides are often as much (or more) about other things in the diet like junk carbs as they are cholesterol.

dso
Sat, June 7th, 2008, 01:45 PM
Cholesterol and triglycerides are often as much (or more) about other things in the diet like junk carbs as they are cholesterol.

Yea I remember being little and visiting my grandfather. He would always cook breakfast. I'm talking sausage gravy, bacon, eggs and cheese...the whole 9 yards. He wasn't even that big either. So basically cholesterol in shrimp isn't as harmful as cholesterol in sausage? If I eat 100% of my daily value in cholesterol from shrimp, I shouldn't be too alarmed?

MannishBoy
Sat, June 7th, 2008, 02:14 PM
Yea I remember being little and visiting my grandfather. He would always cook breakfast. I'm talking sausage gravy, bacon, eggs and cheese...the whole 9 yards. He wasn't even that big either. So basically cholesterol in shrimp isn't as harmful as cholesterol in sausage? If I eat 100% of my daily value in cholesterol from shrimp, I shouldn't be too alarmed?


YMMV, but for me, switching to a high fat, moderate protein, large quantities of green vegetables, low carb diet with periodic high carb days actually raised my HDL, lowered my LDL, and cut my triglycerides in half. 60% or so of my calories are fat on high fat days, with significant (1/3 or so) of those fat calories being saturated.

My numbers weren't high yet to begin with, but were much closer to high levels than they are these days. Both of my parents and some of my extended family have always had high cholesterol.

The difference is I keep my carbs in control and cycled to not load up with saturated fats and starchy carbs at the same time. This keeps the body using fat for energy and stops the liver from converting the excess blood sugar from the carbs into trigyclerides I suspect.

So fat isn't necessarily bad on it's own. It's the whole diet.

And no, this isn't the only way to go to control cholesterol and not everybody functions well on this type of eating so I'm not necessarily recommending it, but don't fall for the "saturated fat and dietary cholesterol are evil" necessarily. Some amount saturated fat and cholesterol are necessary for hormone production.

guava
Sat, June 7th, 2008, 04:03 PM
So basically cholesterol in shrimp isn't as harmful as cholesterol in sausage? It's more complicated than that.

Dietary cholesterol seems to have a different effect on the blood cholesterol of some individuals than it does on others.

The one thing that's clear is that trans fats are more harmful than saturated fats.

Some people would say cholesterol in shrimp isn't as harmful as the refined source of energy in sugar, bread, potatoes, rice, and pasta.