View Full Version : 400 lb barbell squat club


Azure
May 8th, 2008, 07:30 PM
I'm going to create this for all the members that are above 300#, but below 400#.

I'm at 270# now....but according to my calculation, my 1RM is 314#.

So I'll be at 300# soon enough, and on to joining this club.

Pete5
May 8th, 2008, 07:41 PM
Currently:

330 pounds for 1 rep

*I am not a big fan of squat numbers because so many people don't go parallel, but I can assure you that 330 squat was done with my hips breaking parallel.

Bsheller
May 9th, 2008, 01:56 AM
I hit 375 two months ago, its about that time and I'm feeling 405, maybe even tomorrow. Video will be on its way!

Bsheller
May 9th, 2008, 04:24 PM
I hit 375 two months ago, its about that time and I'm feeling 405, maybe even tomorrow. Video will be on its way!


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kENPRuIJKHE

new_grounds
May 9th, 2008, 05:45 PM
Nice job man! and on your bench too.

squatguy20
May 9th, 2008, 09:09 PM
Mine is somewhere between 300lbs and 400lbs, I know this because I can rep 310lbs.
I'm doing a deadlift routine atm, so I'm not aiming for new Squat PR's just now.

Azure
May 13th, 2008, 01:31 AM
I'm in officially now.

Hit 6x300# today.

I love squatting.... :tu:

Just to add....6x300# gives me a 1RM of almost 350 lbs.

I'm almost progressing too fast. :D

Bsheller
May 13th, 2008, 01:42 AM
I'm in officially now.

Hit 6x300# today.

I love squatting.... :tu:

Just to add....6x300# gives me a 1RM of almost 350 lbs.

I'm almost progressing too fast. :D


That sounds about right... Back when I was doing 3*5 i started my sets with 285 to 295 to 305 and my 1RM came out to 345... since then my rep sets moved up and up and up, and now I'm starting my 4*5 sets at 325 and hit 405 for my 1RM so you seem like you're on pace to hit 405 by the end of summer or beginning of fall.

Brutus
May 17th, 2008, 02:35 AM
I'm getting close. When I started about a month and a half ago I was at about 315lbs, 325lbs at the very most, and I'm up to 365-375lbs now. I think I'll be in the 400lbs range maybe by the end of June. I'm up to five sets of five with 280lbs now.

Pete5
May 18th, 2008, 08:12 PM
Got 350 today, raw, no belt.

Bsheller
May 18th, 2008, 09:01 PM
You should probably have a belt on pete.

zenpharaohs
May 18th, 2008, 09:26 PM
You should probably have a belt on pete.

Why?

Pete5
May 18th, 2008, 09:40 PM
You should probably have a belt on pete.
I've heard people say this before and I see no reason to wear one if it isn't needed. It just acts as a crutch and takes away the job of some of the stabilizers. My core is strong enough that I won't fold like a table when performing squats, good mornings, deadlifts, etc, so I see no need for one. It's kind of like, why would you use straps if you didn't need them?

Bsheller
May 18th, 2008, 10:08 PM
I suppose its just what I was taught and never really questioned it, its never caused any harm so I just take it as something I should do. But you two are right, if its alright without it, then its alright without it.

zenpharaohs
May 18th, 2008, 10:27 PM
I've heard people say this before and I see no reason to wear one if it isn't needed. It just acts as a crutch and takes away the job of some of the stabilizers. My core is strong enough that I won't fold like a table when performing squats, good mornings, deadlifts, etc, so I see no need for one. It's kind of like, why would you use straps if you didn't need them?

It's a little worse than that. Studies show that back injuries increase among people who habitually use the belts. Remember how they used to hand out free belts to guys working in warehouses? And now they don't? It's because of the big injury studies done by insurance companies. My brother the powerlifter has been working in warehouses for decades, and he lifts enough on the job that he doesn't train his deadlift at all in the gym. He used to always wear the belt, but has transitioned to a lot more raw lifting.

As far as I know, there is no reason to wear the belt for normal training, and only use it for a few heavy lifts and in competition if you do use it.

If I was going to use the belt in competition I wouldn't only use it in competition - you need to learn the equipment before the competition. But I would certainly avoid always wearing the belt. Frankly I think guys who wear a belt for curls look even stupider than guys doing curls without belts...

But since I do not compete, I use no belt.

Pete5
May 18th, 2008, 10:59 PM
I suppose its just what I was taught and never really questioned it, its never caused any harm so I just take it as something I should do. But you two are right, if its alright without it, then its alright without it.
Understandable though. "Dinosaur training methods" and ideas are passed down over the years such as the belt theory. Same reason we run repeat 200s in track that haven't, and will never make us faster. It's the only thing people have ever been taught and they implement these methods/ideas without questioning why. That's a whole other topic though.

Bsheller
May 19th, 2008, 12:31 AM
I only put a belt on for deadlift, squat, and clean... and pete, I think you're right, its just been handed down... and repeat 200s? I'd have hated your track team. The longest we got with repeats were 100s and 80s...

Brutus
May 19th, 2008, 01:44 AM
Hm, when I did 365 I also used no belt or wraps of any kind. And I don't suppose I'll wear a belt when I do 400lbs, or even 500lbs.

Big_D
May 19th, 2008, 06:34 AM
Understandable though. "Dinosaur training methods" and ideas are passed down over the years such as the belt theory. Same reason we run repeat 200s in track that haven't, and will never make us faster. It's the only thing people have ever been taught and they implement these methods/ideas without questioning why. That's a whole other topic though.

The point of repeat 200s is probably not to make you faster, it's to make you better at the 200, at least that's how I use them.

Pete5
May 20th, 2008, 06:41 PM
I only put a belt on for deadlift, squat, and clean... and pete, I think you're right, its just been handed down... and repeat 200s? I'd have hated your track team. The longest we got with repeats were 100s and 80s...
Yeah, especially repeat 400s. I don't blame my coach, he's actually really cool and understanding. They're just probably the same methods they also used in high school.
The point of repeat 200s is probably not to make you faster, it's to make you better at the 200, at least that's how I use them.
I don't know. I've been watching a ton of complete speed training videos. Latif pretty much said repeat 100s, 200s, 250s, 400s, etc will not make you faster due to form breakdowns as you fatigue and you will tire a lot faster. He said you should be resting one minute for every ten meters you run and speed training is 30-50 meter sprints with full rests. You have to build from the ground up. Block starts have plagued me all season - I stand up way too early, get way behind, start catching people but it's usually too late.
Latif Thomas is highly regarded as one of the top speed coaches in the country. Coach Thomas is the Co-Owner of Athletes' Acceleration, Inc., a leader in sports performance consulting, coaching and training resources for fitness professionals. A former All East Sprinter while attending the University of Connecticut on a track and field scholarship, Latif is certified by the National Strength and Conditioning Association as a Certified Strength and Conditioning Specialist (CSCS) and is USA Track and Field Level II Certified in the Sprints, Hurdles and Relays. In 2005, he was voted the Massachusetts State Track Coaches Association Coach of the Year for his success in developing countless champions and record holders at the conference, division and state levels. To learn more about Latif or to contact him go to either of his websites:

BTW, this article completely changed my viewpoint of the 200 meter dash. This guy knows his stuff.
http://www.athletesacceleration.com/200metertraining.html

Brutus
May 22nd, 2008, 10:18 PM
Added 10lbs, up to 375.

boLa8
May 23rd, 2008, 05:33 AM
Hmm Im wondering, I dont have access to a olympic barl except the smith machine at my gym, I lift 165kg+bar around 363Lbs.

How much difference does it make doing it on the barbell? core muscles will work harder?

Azure
June 5th, 2008, 11:53 PM
Up to 310 lbs now.

I've had a cold for the past 6 days, so I can't push myself that much.

digitalnebula
June 6th, 2008, 12:55 PM
Hmm Im wondering, I dont have access to a olympic barl except the smith machine at my gym, I lift 165kg+bar around 363Lbs.

How much difference does it make doing it on the barbell? core muscles will work harder?

I can lift/squat way more in a smith....you don't need your stabilizers to come into play as much....

Don't have ratios for you though....I haven't used a smith for squats in eons.

Azure
June 9th, 2008, 10:14 PM
320# today.

Azure
June 13th, 2008, 01:01 AM
I changed up my form a bit today....hit 320# a bit more easily. Prior to today I had figured I was up near my 90% max....now I believe I can even heavier. We'll see next week.

Azure
June 16th, 2008, 07:40 PM
Yep, my assumptions were correct.

6x330#.

Makes my 1RM someone around 383 lbs. :tucool:

Pete5
June 16th, 2008, 11:14 PM
Yep, my assumptions were correct.

6x330#.

Makes my 1RM someone around 383 lbs. :tucool:
What did you change that made that much of a difference in poundage?

Azure
June 17th, 2008, 01:41 AM
What did you change that made that much of a difference in poundage?

Moved my feet back a bit more. Feels like I'm using my legs more now, where previously I was probably using my back a bit too much.

It wasn't significant by any means....probably an inch or two back, but still enough to make a big difference.

Azure
June 24th, 2008, 07:40 PM
6x340# today.

According to the calculator, puts me at around 395# for my 1RM.

I could go more though. We'll see next week perhaps.

I don't have 400# to squat with right now....highest is 370#.

Big_D
June 24th, 2008, 08:16 PM
Moved my feet back a bit more. Feels like I'm using my legs more now, where previously I was probably using my back a bit too much.

It wasn't significant by any means....probably an inch or two back, but still enough to make a big difference.

Your feet back in relation to what

Azure
June 24th, 2008, 10:01 PM
Your feet back in relation to what

I don't understand what you're asking?

Relation to my back?

chicanerous
June 24th, 2008, 10:12 PM
I don't understand what you're asking?

Relation to my back?
Are you using a Smith machine? I think that might be why he's confused. If you're doing a freestanding squat, you can't really move the feet back in relation to anything because everything works in relation to the feet.

Azure
June 24th, 2008, 11:44 PM
Are you using a Smith machine? I think that might be why he's confused. If you're doing a freestanding squat, you can't really move the feet back in relation to anything because everything works in relation to the feet.

Yeah, its not a free-standing squat.

I'm still saving money up for a cage.

Azure
June 30th, 2008, 07:48 PM
350#x5 today.

And strangely enough, it only gives me a one-rep max of 394lbs.

340x6 gives me a one rep max of 395. :confused:

Azure
July 7th, 2008, 03:58 PM
Did my squats with a cage today, free standing and all.

3x3x370#.

:claphigh:

I'll be doing a 3x3 program all of July....just to change things up.

squatguy20
July 30th, 2008, 07:44 PM
I'm ready to take this challenge up now because I have started working on new Squat PR's.

I did 330lbs x 5 ATG on this weeks session. Increasing by 4kg each week, squatting once a week. And I'll have my Powercage by roughly mid-august too, so I will finally be able to push myself.

So my ATG 1RM is predicted at 370lbs, I don't know what my parallel squat is but its probably near 400lbs.

Pete5
November 20th, 2008, 06:42 PM
Bump for the new forum members.

r2nd2ll
December 5th, 2008, 03:24 PM
I managed 400#x1 today. Warmed up with bar x 20 then 185#x2, 225#x2, 245#x1, 265#x1, ..., 385x1, 400#x1

Tried 405# but couldn't bring it back up.