View Full Version : Golfer's elbow??


hammerman1975
May 5th, 2008, 02:16 PM
For the last 2 weeks i had pain in my right inner elbow, it started restricting the amout of weight i can push, The doctor diagnosed me with golfers elbow, he said it's when the tendon starts pulling from the bone.

I have contemplating stopping to workout until it felt better...At this point i guess i have to! Probably just work on legs and cardio for 4-6 weeks and go from there.

Has anybody had this injury? What kind of rehab did you do.

I'm just really frustrated right now.

wormfood
May 6th, 2008, 05:33 PM
I had the same thing happen to me a year ago. Time is your friend when dealing with this injury. Take a week or two off and then restructure your workout to remove the pain from each lift. For me, this meant switching to dumbbell lifts for anything involving my arms.

It took about 3 weeks of rest and very minimal lifting before I could detect much improvement - they still hurt, just not as bad. Add another 2 months or so before I could do about 80% of what I was lifting before I got hurt. At 8 months they reminded me when I tried to push it too much. Now after 12 months, I'm 100% back but my form has changed to protect my elbows and I am 99% pain free.

From what I read and experienced, tendons take a long time to heal. A Glucosamine/Chondroitin supplement could help as it targets your joints and ligaments.

Otherwise, consider this a good time to hit the cardio to shed a few pounds and take a break from lifting.

Good Luck.

hammerman1975
May 7th, 2008, 09:17 AM
I started yesterday with cardio and will intend to do just that abs,legs until this completely heals ..I've had for about 3 months now and it continued to hurt and there was no progress in the strength gain area so i have no choice to rest it...


Thanks .

Bluestreak
May 7th, 2008, 09:25 AM
Golfers tend to have problems with the medial tendon. I had problems with the lateral extensor (tennis elbow).

I went through six months of rather painful therapy to try to get the arm to heal. Cortisone injections, massage, and PT didn't help, so I opted for surgery. The doctor released the tendon via surgery in early February because my right forearm had deteriorated to the point that I couldn't hold as little as a half-cup of coffee and I could barely grip a pen correctly to write.

If you can get it to heal naturally, that's great - waiting it out didn't work so well for me. The PT is a bit unpleasant (especially the first time they straighten the arm out after surgery!), but three months later, it's like it never happened.

-R

carguy
May 25th, 2008, 07:45 PM
Darn it, I think I have Golfers Elbow too. It's also my right. After I hurt it two weeks ago, I took a week off. Felt somewhat better so I went back to lifting. Now it hurts as much as ever so I'm going to have to lay off the weights for a while. My legs need some attention, anyway.:lol:

hammerman1975
May 28th, 2008, 01:29 PM
3 weeks and still hurting!! I'm so frustrated!!

PAF
May 30th, 2008, 12:54 PM
It's a damn bummer golfer's elbow. A lot of tennis players get it as well. After inflammation has gone done you need to stretch your wrist/finger flexors. Their origins are in the medial elbow. If they are tight any action can cause the tendon to rub and cause further inflammation.

A new PT treatment that has been researched and has had results, is doing heavy eccentric contractions of these muscles. As in pain-causing heavy. However this worked when the subjects had people overlooking their treatment. Don't know if simply telling you to do this will work because, as is probably obvious, pain is usually not good and you definitley don't want to overdo it!

Eagle Tree
May 30th, 2008, 01:42 PM
It's a damn bummer golfer's elbow. A lot of tennis players get it as well. After inflammation has gone done you need to stretch your wrist/finger flexors. Their origins are in the medial elbow. If they are tight any action can cause the tendon to rub and cause further inflammation.

A new PT treatment that has been researched and has had results, is doing heavy eccentric contractions of these muscles. As in pain-causing heavy. However this worked when the subjects had people overlooking their treatment. Don't know if simply telling you to do this will work because, as is probably obvious, pain is usually not good and you definitley don't want to overdo it!

That might explain what I've noticed. I get the tennis version (outside tendon) constantly due to firewood collection and stacking (I've considered it just a fact of life for years since I have to do about 9 cords). It's lasted as long as 18 months. In fact this worst case started prior to weight lifting and was still present as I ramped up. Curls made it a lot worse or at least it was excruciating to do them when I first started. When I started doing BB Bent over rows and deadlifts underhanded, it's actually gone away even though I'm working out harder than ever. I hate to tell people that just because it sounds insane given that the only natural cure doctors ever prescribe is total disuse for 6 weeks (as in: a sling).

Do you remember any citations to lookup concerning studies on this? What I'm curious about is if it's possible that this condition can be eliminated completely through recomp. It does appear that I can make it go away now. I wouldn't mind having something more scientific though than just this experience.

PAF
June 6th, 2008, 11:57 AM
Sorry it's taken awhile to respond!
I just had a quick google. This isn't a citation but it's a good read anyway and explains what I said in a better way.

http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_qa3987/is_200404/ai_n9356432

Eagle Tree
June 6th, 2008, 04:59 PM
Sorry it's taken awhile to respond!
I just had a quick google. This isn't a citation but it's a good read anyway and explains what I said in a better way.

http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_qa3987/is_200404/ai_n9356432

Thanks for that. It appears to be a very sound approach in keeping with my experience. Reoccurrence of the problem suggests some of us do have weak tendons which is no surprise (especially in someone with a light frame such as myself who likes to push). It would follow that strengthening the weak tendon is a true solution rather than treating symptoms and then being careful with ones activities.

PAF
June 9th, 2008, 11:44 AM
Ok cool. So did you have tennis elbow on/off for 18 months.
You started with the standard 'rest until better' treatment, but when that didn't work you started the weights, and some of them made it worse, but after 18months when you started going heavy with underhanded d/ls and BB rows it started to get better?

mossy
June 13th, 2008, 08:20 AM
i'm another sufferer of elbow pain although i'm not sure if it is golfers elbow. whenever i lift i get a pain in my elbows, a really dull ache that disappears after a few seconds although i can still feel a slight ache for a while longer.

i have laid off the weights for a week although i find even doing a press up triggers them off.

they are not painful to touch, i have no swelling and no loss of movement or function in them.

is this Golfers elbow or could it be something different?

thanks in anticipation!!

Eagle Tree
June 13th, 2008, 06:41 PM
Ok cool. So did you have tennis elbow on/off for 18 months.
You started with the standard 'rest until better' treatment, but when that didn't work you started the weights, and some of them made it worse, but after 18months when you started going heavy with underhanded d/ls and BB rows it started to get better?

PAF, sorry I never responded, I didn't even look back at the thread. Yes, 18 months was just once though. I've had it several times for varying times. Before I retired, I had a desk job and did nothing for long months on end but commute and work so I would heal from doing absolutely nothing and using two arms to do everything during the periods where it was intense pain.

The 18 months came after I was retired and there was no way I could just not use it, my only heat is wood and I've got a lot of years of maintenance I'm slowly catching up on. I was in the latter part of that 18 months when I started lifting and curls did aggravate it (especially reverse). A few other rather questionable exercises like kickbacks would also bother it. My second routine included more heavy compounds and when I started playing with underhanded versions of heavy lifts, it immediately started to lessen and now doesn't bother me.

I don't want to give the wrong idea, I'm not out of the woods if I "go back in the woods" ;-) as I have to. Certain actions will bring it back and I tried this very recently. Very specifically grasping something heavy with a extreme grip (very wide) and picking it up or suspending it out in front of me and doing this over and over will bring it back. A day of collecting and stacking wet split firewood will still cause it. This is why I'm interested in exercises specifically targeted to strengthen the tendons accompanying the process of having a growth chemistry from compounds. It's quite plausible that this is a lifetime solution to overcoming it rather than the injury/heal repetition.

Eagle Tree
June 13th, 2008, 06:49 PM
i'm another sufferer of elbow pain although i'm not sure if it is golfers elbow. whenever i lift i get a pain in my elbows, a really dull ache that disappears after a few seconds although i can still feel a slight ache for a while longer.

i have laid off the weights for a week although i find even doing a press up triggers them off.

they are not painful to touch, i have no swelling and no loss of movement or function in them.

is this Golfers elbow or could it be something different?

thanks in anticipation!!

I never have the Golfers Version but I read up on it along with Tennis Elbow. From what I saw, they are the same in that they come on and last for quite sometime (minimally weeks). Not like a short duration strain which would go away in a week or so.

The golfers is the inner side tendon, the tennis is the outer. In my tennis experience it's a very sharp pain. Total immobility in the right position will immediately remove the pain. The pain could be brought on by touch because I had a therapist look at it once when it was inflamed and she could quite easily make it happen by probing. I'm not sure what golfers feels like.

Maybe someone with the inner tendon problem will answer more accurately.