Okay so i decided to cut and i was wondering if anybody has any links to some good cutting programs. I could make my own but id rather get one that works first time around.

Also would it be okay to continue doing Mark Rippotoe's Starting Strength while cutting. Doing squats 3 times a week while eating like is a pig is hard enough.

LOL! are you kidding me? :D seriously? you are about six monitor inches away from the best cutting program ever conceptualized by any human...ever.

SGX (http://www.gotswole.com/)

^^^ link above

change your life, permanently for the cost of a (1) paycheck. if that

Desire is a prerequisite.

As much as i would love to do SGX. It would be really hard trying to convince my parents to let me shell out the money for it. Granted its my money but they might be like WTF could u spend 250 dollars on.

As much as i would love to do SGX. It would be really hard trying to convince my parents to let me shell out the money for it. Granted its my money but they might be like WTF could u spend 250 dollars on.
If you are not willing or able to invest money, then that is fine (understandable of course). But if that is the case then you need to invest something else: time.

Take time to read the sticky threads here on cutting. Read through other people's journals, look at what some of the members here are doing. Put together a plan yourself and post it here and we will help you with it.

:)

LOL! are you kidding me? :D seriously? you are about six monitor inches away from the best cutting program ever conceptualized by any human...ever.

SGX (http://www.gotswole.com/)

^^^ link above

change your life, permanently for the cost of a (1) paycheck. if that

Desire is a prerequisite.

Thank you Lo0p, not only for your reference to myself and very successful protocols here, but also for that letter you personally gave to me yesterday about yourself, how I helped to change not just your body but your LIFE, as I really enjoyed that and kept that correspondence so I can have it with me on my cpu forever, and today will print it out and place it on my wall in my office. Those are the kinds of rewards I like to receive from those I help, as they make me feel really good and they should as that is why I do what I do and it's the purpose behind my instruction/guidance/etc.

In what I do/offer, one does not simply just utilize "a program or an approach", as that is fine and dandy and all, but the REAL KEY to succcess on my protocols and what clients are then armed with as far as knowledge FOR LIFE, is the consultation WITH ME for months on end, so as to avoid having ANY issues whatsoever with ANY aspect of the trek to a body composition change for the better, not to mention the internal health improvements that come with such physical changes, at least they do with my approaches and are documented with testimonials from those who have been able to come TOTALLY OFF of high blood pressure meds, glucophage and/or insulin, etc., and literally 100% of my "students'" cholesterol and HDL to LDL ratios greatly improve.
I mention internal health because that, to me anyhow, is more important than just "looks" when all is said/done but seems to get lost and forgotten taking a backseat to the mirror, cameras, etc.
Simply because sporting a six pack in wooden pajamas (coffin) doesn't really call for a celebration regarding how great one looks physique wise.

I understand that some can't afford to hire me to utilize my services, that's just reality in the world we live in. For those who cannot afford the luxury of having every single aspect of a body composition change for the better no matter what the focus (cutting/bulking/etc.) laid out impeccably with sterling accuracy and absolutely NO guesswork, you can still be successful. Just read, research, and come up with a plan of attack and simply just "start" somewhere, as if you never attain a point of reference, you won't be able to alter aspects in the future by way of past data to base future alterations on.

For those who can "hire me", I'm here and I'm still here after 7+ years and I will be here (here meaning "available to assist no matter where exactly Net wise as I will always have my "house" at Gotswole.com and the forums) for years upon years to come.

Have a great day to all, I have to go get my right arm from the wrist to elbow x-rayed for a broken/fractured bone, and if nothing shows up there, then it's all tendon/ligament related which is actually going to be worse. I'd explain, but my appt. is in 25 mins.

Peace people! :cool:

~SC~

Have a great day to all, I have to go get my right arm from the wrist to elbow x-rayed for a broken/fractured bone, and if nothing shows up there, then it's all tendon/ligament related which is actually going to be worse. I'd explain, but my appt. is in 25 mins.

Peace people! :cool:

~SC~

Oh man, that doesn't sound good, what happened buddy?

In any event, I wish you luck on your x-rays.

Okay so i decided to cut and i was wondering if anybody has any links to some good cutting programs. I could make my own but id rather get one that works first time around.

Also would it be okay to continue doing Mark Rippotoe's Starting Strength while cutting. Doing squats 3 times a week while eating like is a pig is hard enough.

I'm seeing SGX recommendations above. Now, I have nothing but respect for Swolecat. I was going to sign up for his SGX program but couldn't because of weird schedules that kept coming up (Korea trip that I was forced to go to, short on money all of sudden due to college books, etc.). However, if you want a good cutting program, there are other coaches around who you could hire for less.

I'll throw out an example out there. There is Global Health and Fitness which is $60 for 3 months. I just signed up for Michael Elias's 12 week coaching program for about $100. But then because I just signed up for it, I can't give you any reviews yet. I heard so far nothing but good things about him though.

I'll say a couple things about Global Health and Fitness though. It's not as personalized as one on one coaching but if you e-mail them with questions or anything, they'll e-mail you back very quickly with answers from experts. GHF has over 30 experts at your service ready to answer your e-mails in 24 hours or less guranteed. Actually, scratch off the 24hours. Most of my e-mails were answered within an hour, some of them in like 5 minutes. If you ask them, they'll recommend a training program. Now, on their web site, it says personalized training program. Honestly, it's not as personalized as it says. Chad (the founder of GHF) created many training programs and he usually just picks them out based on your goals. Now he'll change it up a bit to meet your needs if you can't meet them (like lack of equipment), but he doesn't exactly create a brand new program just for you. You have to make up your own diet though, but if you send them your diet and have them take a look at it, one of their experts will critique and tweak it if needed.

I haven't tried SGX but if I had the money, I would probably go with Swolecat just because of all the positive testimonials I've seen at JSF. It's also more personalized one on one coaching. But right now, I don't have the money (I am currently broke from buying books). But if you can't shell out the money but can for the services like GHF and if you don't want to go for it alone but want professional service, I would recommend GHF. At $60 for 3 months, I say it's a bargain.

So heres a Cutting routine i came up with tell me what u guy sthink:

Meal 1-
1 banana 110 calories
1 orange 40 calories
1 protein bar 190 calories
1 Tilpiea fish 110 calories or 1 4-6 ounce chicken breast 280 calories

Meal 2-
22 almonds 110 calories
Tuna sandwich 250~400 calories( from school i have no idea the stats on it, even search for it cant find them)

Meal 3(1 hour or 1:30 before workout)-
1 4~6 ounce chicken breast 280
1 cup of assorted veggies 30 calories
1 can of tuna mixed with olive oil? good,bad? 60 calories

Meal 4(post workout)-
2 scoops of protein powder with 1 cup of 2% milk 250 cal
1 packet of Oatmeal(water or milk?) with milk its 240
1 whole egg and 1 egg white 100cal
1 banana or 1 orange, 100 cal with banana

Meal 5-
This meal will be the hardest one for me to make. As my dad cooks dinner and some times he makes Lamb curry with rice(white rice) and various other dishes.
But on days were i am able to make my dinner i would go along the lines of sumthing-
1 Chicken breast or 2 tilapea, 280 with chicken breast and 220 with tilepea
1 cup of vegetables 30 cal
1 banana or 1 orange. 40 cal with oranges

according to Fitday thats about 1604 calories 44g fat, 138 carbs and 171g protein. Thats not including the Tuna sandwich i would eat for meal 2. which might bump it up to 2000 calories.

I'd ditch the protein bar from the first meal. Quite often they're just enhanced candy. Some oatmeal in this first meal would be a great quality carb to start your day with!

Is the tuna sarnie on white bread? Does it have anything else on it like mayo? You might be better of making your own tuna sandwhiches to take to school.

In meal 3 - 1 can of tuna mixed with olive oil will be a lot more than 60 calories. That said, tuna and olive-oil is a good combination of protein and fat.

Instead of mixing the whey with milk, AND the oatmeal with milk, why don't you combine the whey, the oats and some water for a good PWO shake. Heck, you could even include the egg white in that shake!

Not much wrong with your plan for meal 5. Eat as much veggies as you possibly can!

okay thanks Euan thats some good advice i tryed the Milk with Oatmeal and 2 scoops of protein Powder it was Amazingly good.

Also i have a question on Cardio. Okay so i know HIIT is good for fat loss as i did that when i first lost my weight. I was doing about 15 min HIIT session on off days. ANd i tryed recently to do that again and i cant my Asthma just starts going crazy i am only able to do about 6-8 min so far. So i was thinking that i can do like 2 sessions one in the after noon and one at night.

Also would it be ideal to do LiSS for 30min on workout days as well? thanks in advance

My recommendation is to join Team Scivation. I paid $99 per month to have them as my personal trainers, unlimited consultation, customized, not a cookie cutter program, fantastic email response, etc. They have just lowered their price to FREE!!!! Its unbelievable. They are a supplements company with great supplements that they do not push on you. But if you want programs that work, check them out. You have nothing to lose. Heres the link.

http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=106268001

Depends on where you are in regards to your fitness experience. If you are just starting out I would say just stick to JSF.com learn all you can, start a regular lifting routine, learn to eat clean, work on your dedication and discipline, gain as much experience as you can. If you are a little more of an advanced lifter, and you have already been lifting, eating clean, doing regular cardio etc. and you are looking to improve your results I would deffinately recomend Swolecat's SGX protocol.

On a personal note; when I first started to really work on my fitness I was weighing in at 200-203 pounds. I started applying the lessons I learned from JSF.com and dropped to 185 pounds in about 3 months. I feel that I made good progress, but I hit a plateau, partially due to a slow learning curve, and partially to a shoulder injury. So I hovered at 185 pounds for 2 months then I started SGX. In 37 days I have managed to drop an additional 12 pounds, and drop my body fat from 15% to around 9.8%. SGX is highly effective!!! But with one caveat; you MUST have the desire to be successful, and the dedication to see it through.

Seriously though, if you are just starting, stick to www.johnstonefitness.com (http://www.johnstonefitness.com). But if you REALLY want to kick it up a notch and take things to a whole new level go with www.vizualxcellence.com (http://www.vizualxcellence.com) :tucool:

My recommendation is to join Team Scivation. I paid $99 per month to have them as my personal trainers, unlimited consultation, customized, not a cookie cutter program, fantastic email response, etc. They have just lowered their price to FREE!!!! Its unbelievable. They are a supplements company with great supplements that they do not push on you. But if you want programs that work, check them out. You have nothing to lose. Heres the link.

http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=106268001

Scivation hands down has to have one of the better programs. Their book (http://www.cutdiet.com/) has the most unconventional wisdom in the world, but I have been amazed at the people who've had success with it. I follow Layne Norton's suggestions more as I had read his article before theirs, but he too, works with them and has some similar suggestions. If I were trying to go for a low bodyfat percentage - like less than 6% - I would use their competition diet method as their bodybuilders are quite ripped.

Like I said, when you read it there are things that shock you that you won't have heard before (like eating high amounts of fat and carbs right after you workout and not protein), yet people see results. It has definitely made me re-think a lot of these so-called "bodybuilding truths" that people MUST do and yet when done a completely different way, they still have sucess.

The only down side to their diet? The cost of the good you end up buying. If you go their route, definitely make sure to find a place to buy it bulk. And if you have any questions, they have a segmented (http://forum.bodybuilding.com/forumdisplay.php?f=71) forum to answer your questions all at the price of free.

Once I am finished with my current status, I am planning to use their cut diet bulk as I've seen people have enormous success with that as well and it looks quite interesting.

[Scivation's two biggest reasons for success is their insulin manipulation and their thryoid manipulation. Some people don't realize that "cutting calories" leads to severe thyroid problems and metabolic problems, but the Scivation guys know exactly how to have you eating where you are full, but yet still losing a lot of fat. It is the combination of manipulating insulin and keeping your thyroid high at the same time. Very effective; but you have to be quite OCD about weighing everything and getting the right foods for the job.]

My recommendation is to join Team Scivation. I paid $99 per month to have them as my personal trainers, unlimited consultation, customized, not a cookie cutter program, fantastic email response, etc. They have just lowered their price to FREE!!!! Its unbelievable. They are a supplements company with great supplements that they do not push on you. But if you want programs that work, check them out. You have nothing to lose. Heres the link.

http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=106268001


This still going on>> I emailed them a week ago and did not recieve anything.