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cbw
January 30th, 2008, 08:27 PM
To anyone who can help me with this.

Here are our stats

Me

5'7" 188lbs

Wife

4'11" 115lbs

My wife and I are in reasonable shape we both lift and run on a regular basis.

Here is my question.

Can anyone give me a diet plan that will help us both cut our weight and body fat dramatically and in the shortest amount of time possible.

We are willing to be as hardcore as we need to be.

Also with the diet we would like to get by with as few types of food as possible. IE limit the diet to maybe 10 or twelve differant items for the sake of simplicity and conveniance?

Any help will be greatly appreciated.

odin1642
January 30th, 2008, 08:39 PM
To anyone who can help me with this.

Here are our stats

Me

5'7" 188lbs

Wife

4'11" 115lbs

My wife and I are in reasonable shape we both lift and run on a regular basis.

Here is my question.

Can anyone give me a diet plan that will help us both cut our weight and body fat dramatically and in the shortest amount of time possible.

We are willing to be as hardcore as we need to be.

Also with the diet we would like to get by with as few types of food as possible. IE limit the diet to maybe 10 or twelve differant items for the sake of simplicity and conveniance?

Any help will be greatly appreciated.


SGX - there's an ad for it at the top of the page, it's run by a guy who posts on here called Swolecat - you can email him at his site to enquire about it. It's not hugely expensive or anything, and many posters on here have had great results on it.

kevin_in_ga
January 30th, 2008, 08:43 PM
Generally, a post like this is fuel for some tough love. I would guess that you have yet to read any of the stickies at the top of this forum, which contain a wealth of diet and exercise info.

You will not lose more than about 2 lbs per week, even if you swear on a stack of bibles that you'll be "as hardcore as needed". Odds are you won't, so set some realistic goals first.

1. Review what you eat and compare it to the diet guidelines in the stickies. Adjust accordingly.

2. PLan for a 2 lb per week weight loss - any more is likely to be lean muscles mass or dehydration (neither is desirable).

3. Decide on your strength and cardio plans, taking into account the fact that you probably aren't in top shape but will get better over time. Don't overdo it the first week.

Many other points to make, but this is enough for now. Others will probably help with suggestions as well.

Welcome aboard.

docutech
January 30th, 2008, 08:58 PM
What about the Velocity Diet?

Doubleoqueso
January 31st, 2008, 07:43 AM
Try carb cycling - having a moderate amount of carbs (80-100g) ONLY immediately before and after exercise, and other than that, no carbs at all. Get about 1600-1800 calorie a day from proteins and fats, and still do cardio on non-lifting days.

You wont have much energy the first week, so I recommend supplementing with caffiene. This diet has been quite effective for me, thus far, and I'm losing fat at a good clip and actually gaining strength!

Beyond this, everything else you might want to know or try is in the stickies.

cbw
January 31st, 2008, 08:36 AM
Thank you guys for all of the help.

I am not sure if you all even care but I will post a little about me and the situation I am currently in. This morning I weighed in again at 188lbs which to me is awesome considering that I weighed in at 212 right at four weeks ago. I know that I have not been doing well on the nutrition part of my quest to lose weight and get cut. I have been basically trying to kill myself through my workouts.

I have been doing some pretty hard core workouts, time wise about an hour and a half to two hours per day. I will lift one day and run the next. As my diet goes I have been eating grilled chicken breasts or fish, I have eaten a few carbs here and there but not many at all. Probably less than the equivalency of 10 slices of whole wheat bread all month long.

Anyways starting on monday I am going to be changing my diet and getting the right balance of nutrition. As far as my workouts I am happy with them, they are totally kicking my rear but I am happy with them.

My wife and I are really just looking to simplify our meals as much as possible. I have some books on nutrition etc. and one that I really like for the sake of simplicity is the abs diet, does anyone know if it is even worth following. They basically limit you to 12 power food groups. Almonds and Other Nuts eaten with skins intact.
2) Beans and Other Legumes
3) Spinach and Other Green Vegetables
4) Dairy: Fat-free or low-fat milk, yogurt, cheese, cottage cheese
5) Instant Oatmeal: Unsweetened, unflavored
6) Eggs
7) Turkey and other lean meats. Lean steak, chicken, fish
8) Peanut Butter - All-natural, sugar-free.
9) Olive Oil
10) Whole-Grain Breads and Cereals
11) Extra-Protein (Whey) Powder
12) Raspberries and Other Berries

I like the simplicity of it but the only thing that really gets me with it is how much do I eat. I obviously don't want to overeat but I also don't want to under eat like i have been doing.

I am perfectly happy with the muscle structure I have, I am by no means big I just want to cut up what I have.

Again I really appreciate all of you guys' help, and so does my wife.

Thanks
CBW

mustbesix
January 31st, 2008, 01:21 PM
Everything in those 12 groups looks OK to me. You need to read sticky below.

http://forums.johnstonefitness.com/showthread.php?t=1222

It will tell you how to calculate how many calories you need each day for you and your wife. After that you need to formulate a plan that gives you the right % of carbs, proteins, fats in those daily calories. Your wife will need less calories per day so her portions would need to be smaller. You also are going to need a food scale so that you can weigh out your portions if you want to precise.

cbw
February 2nd, 2008, 05:44 PM
I really appreciate all of the advice that you all have given me. I have read allot of information in the stickies and I am currently in the planning phase, I hope to have our diets on track soon.

I started my diet/fitness/get cut plan on the second of january and it's officially one month today. I weighed in this morning and weighed 186 which I think is awesome seeing as how I weighed 212 when I started.

I have another question though, is losing that much weight unhealthy? I have told a few people about my accomplishments and most of them said I was nuts and was going about losing weight the wrong way?

I was not sure how to respond, am I going about this the wrong way?

mustbesix
February 2nd, 2008, 10:26 PM
15 lbs in 4 weeks is probably excessive, but changing your diet dramatically can result in a huge drop quickly because of water weight. It is commonly believed that you can lose only about 2 lbs per week of fat, so if you're losing 4lbs it would seem that 1/2 is muscle mass which you want to retain as much of as possible.

You should probably take measurements weekly. It is more accurate than a scale. I use this site (http://www.fittogether.net). You put in about 10 different measurement points and it helps you track your progress so you know how much is fat loss and how much is lean mass. Your goal should always be as much fat and as little lean muscle as possible. It's not as good as a body fat monitor but it is free.