Gordo
January 25th, 2008, 02:08 PM
Yep, you betchya even broccoli sprouts
2007. 25 January 2008 http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2007/05/070517100315.htm
Just don't cook or microwave it (or minimal cooking is best...leave it crunchy):
http://lpi.oregonstate.edu/infocenter/phytochemicals/isothio/#sources
MannishBoy
January 25th, 2008, 02:27 PM
Cauliflower and kale are also good.
And I eat a lot. I just don't like them (except kale).
I don't want round 2 of cancer.
I'm still not sure I believe the microwave thing. I've seen stuff on both sides of that. I still generally steam broccoli, though. I buy the frozen 4 lb bags at Sam's (about 1 bag a week on average I'd guess).
andysutils
January 25th, 2008, 02:31 PM
Yep, you betchya even broccoli sprouts
2007. 25 January 2008 http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2007/05/070517100315.htm (http://www.sciencedaily.com%C2%AD/releases/2007/05/070517100315.htm)
Just don't cook or microwave it (or minimal cooking is best...leave it crunchy):
http://lpi.oregonstate.edu/infocenter/phytochemicals/isothio/#sources
huh, you mean you can actually eat brocolli raw? i did not know that, silly me.:rolleyes:
i know everyone says on here its a key in bulking, but why??? cos it doesnt seem to have a significant high amount of cals or protein in it.
MannishBoy
January 25th, 2008, 02:50 PM
i know everyone says on here its a key in bulking, but why??? cos it doesnt seem to have a significant high amount of cals or protein in it.
One reason is high antioxidant content. If you are tearing your muscles down via workouts, you are putting a bunch of free radicals into the system. Antioxidants neutralize those.
Veggies also offset the acidity of a lot of the proteins you consume, to keep the body in a more neutral pH balance.
Also veggies in general are very nutrient dense, so you get a lot of vitamins and minerals without a lot of calories.
Gordo
January 25th, 2008, 03:43 PM
Also, they're a good source of soluble fiber (http://www.wisegeek.com/what-is-the-difference-between-soluble-and-insoluble-fiber.htm). This is highly important when bulking because you can eat all you want, but what good is it if your body doesn't fully use the food you're eating? Some people are wired to empty their guts rather quickly (like the ecto-ish) or they have leaky guts (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leaky_gut_syndrome). A good dose of soluble fiber helps slow down the whole digestive process and maximize the uptake of those nutrients. What's the point of eating all that food if you only actually utilize some of it?
Gordo
January 25th, 2008, 03:46 PM
Cauliflower and kale are also good.
And I eat a lot. I just don't like them (except kale).
I don't want round 2 of cancer.
I'm still not sure I believe the microwave thing. I've seen stuff on both sides of that. I still generally steam broccoli, though. I buy the frozen 4 lb bags at Sam's (about 1 bag a week on average I'd guess).
What I meant was....don't microwave the stink out of it. Yes I agree though. I have read that steaming and cooking vegetable can actually make them even more nutrient dense (http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2007/12/071224125524.htm) because you've eliminated a lot of the water. You can eat more volume that way and get more nutrients, it also supposedly releases more nutrients from the vegetable (more available I guess).
MannishBoy
January 25th, 2008, 03:56 PM
What I meant was....don't microwave the stink out of it. Yes I agree though. I have read that steaming and cooking vegetable can actually make them even more nutrient dense (http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2007/12/071224125524.htm) because you've eliminated a lot of the water. You can eat more volume that way and get more nutrients, it also supposedly releases more nutrients from the vegetable (more available I guess).
Cooking sometimes makes things more bioavailable. Proteins in eggs for instance need to be cooked, or you lose about 50% of the bioavailibility. Antioxidants in bread crust are not even found in the raw dough or the center of the bread, etc. Lots of cases where cooking is good.
I'm not saying raw veggies are bad, I'm saying it's probably a complex issue that I'm not sure we really understand yet. I'm sure there are cases where raw is better than cooked as well as the reverse.