Hi

I have been reading Lose the fat and feed the muscle in which it mentions not to do twice daily cardio until low body fat levels as your body can adapt to it.?
at present i have a few months off work and tons of spare time on my hand. i lift 4 days weekly approx 1 hr...and was seeking information on whether adding in 6 days of 1-1.5hr cardio sessions(seperate time to my lifting) would be bad? i am trying to shed 20lbs of unwanted ..i eat 6 meals clean diet around 2200 kcals daily....When will cardio be classed as overtraining?


thanks

Are you losing bodyfat @ 2200 kcals?

Are you doing cardio now?

If so when and how much?

Meal breakdown?

I think we/you could answer your question if you provided more detail. Not "how much is overtraining" but if you've got 20 lbs to lose then we would start with "what are you doing now and is it working?" and then when/if you plateau we would either cut 2-400 kcals or up cardio from 3 to 7 days/week.

Then when you're down to like the LAST 5-7 lbs to lose yeah, thats when I'd add a double cardio session.

To directly answer your question, I think it's too much cardio if it doesn't fit properly into YOUR plan.

Are you losing bodyfat @ 2200 kcals?

Are you doing cardio now?

If so when and how much?

Meal breakdown?

I think we/you could answer your question if you provided more detail. Not "how much is overtraining" but if you've got 20 lbs to lose then we would start with "what are you doing now and is it working?" and then when/if you plateau we would either cut 2-400 kcals or up cardio from 3 to 7 days/week.

Then when you're down to like the LAST 5-7 lbs to lose yeah, thats when I'd add a double cardio session.

To directly answer your question, I think it's too much cardio if it doesn't fit properly into YOUR plan.
Hi

ive got done from 170 to around167 in around three weeks but kind plateaued there.

i have been doing weights three to four days(split routine)focusing on the compound exercises a week and sometimes throwing in a 5000m row at the end of weights.

meals are like this roughly -
meal 1 whey/oats/skim milk
meal 2 4 medium whole eggs/1 spoon of olive oil/200g veggies
meal 3 apple/bran sticks /200g cottage cheese/10 almonds
meal 4 tuna( or salmon)/olive oil spoon/200g veggies/
meal 5 200g cottage cheese/couple slices of ryvita/
meal 6 whey/chicken breast/200g veggies/10 almonds
meal 7 200g cottage cheese/ peanut butter or 20g peanuts
i try drink 2-3 litre water a day and consume over 25g fibre daily and a multivitamin glucosamine fish oils capsules daily
my food choices vary quite a bit ie i may eat salmons or mackerel instead of tuna..or i may have mince meat or sausages instead of chicken breast. but i track through calorie counter and am around 2200 kcal s to 2400 kcal's average breakdown has been 35 carbs/40 protein/25 fats

ive started adding in evening cardio(i am not a morning person!) for last two days ...i am thinking doing this like four evenings a week and see what happens.?:confused: if i lose more than 1-2lbs i,ll have choice of cutting down or bumping up calories?

Thanks for any help

Well then yes, I think it'd be a perfect time to add cardio! :tu:

Try what you're doing, or if you want a guaranteed response try fasted AM 7 days/week.

you're kcal level looks ok, but I'd rather you be the judge of that, it looks like you've got somewhat of handle there.

there are definitely some things I would change about your meals, but that could be just personal.

So yeah add some cardio, see what happens. I wouldn't expect anything truly amazing until you've got all of the big 3 (diet, weights, cardio) working for ya. that'll probably jumpstart some progress and then you could go from there.

Well then yes, I think it'd be a perfect time to add cardio! :tu:

Try what you're doing, or if you want a guaranteed response try fasted AM 7 days/week.

you're kcal level looks ok, but I'd rather you be the judge of that, it looks like you've got somewhat of handle there.

there are definitely some things I would change about your meals, but that could be just personal.

So yeah add some cardio, see what happens. I wouldn't expect anything truly amazing until you've got all of the big 3 (diet, weights, cardio) working for ya. that'll probably jumpstart some progress and then you could go from there.

Thanks LoOp
i suppose its about been consistant as well so ive decided to start a journal to track it all
http://forums.johnstonefitness.com/showthread.php?t=41038


Unfortunately im not a morning person i normally roll out of bed at
11 am:o.

Ill experiment and see what happens over the next 6-12 weeks.
Cheers again:tu:

Unfortunately im not a morning person i normally roll out of bed at
11 am:o.


Hey man if 11 am is when you roll out of bed, then I would call cardio at 11:30..."fasted AM cardio"