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AzimScot
January 19th, 2008, 10:27 AM
I have seen a few people's diet and I am thinking about changing to some sort of fiber oat meal as I am wanting to stop eating regular cereals such as Frosties and Coco Pops etc full of sugar big time.

Can anyone recommend me an Oat/Fiber cereal great tasting and lots of fiber.

Thanks.

MannishBoy
January 19th, 2008, 10:31 AM
I have seen a few people's diet and I am thinking about changing to some sort of fiber oat meal as I am wanting to stop eating regular cereals such as Frosties and Coco Pops etc full of sugar big time.

Can anyone recommend me an Oat/Fiber cereal great tasting and lots of fiber.

Thanks.

Why not just eat straight oats? Rolled oats cook in about 3 minutes in the microwave (or you can eat them in milk raw). Put in a bit of fruit and/or cinnamon and ginger and maybe some splenda, and :eat:

AzimScot
January 19th, 2008, 10:34 AM
much rather get them in a box all prepared as I have a busy lifestyle.

MannishBoy
January 19th, 2008, 10:43 AM
much rather get them in a box all prepared as I have a busy lifestyle.

You don't have 3 minutes? Seriously?

:blank:

MrEd
January 19th, 2008, 04:12 PM
Maybe its an acquired taste, but they aren't bad raw. I usually eat the quaker rolled kind in the cardboard container as a snack but recently switched to the steel cut variety (available at some grocery stores and in health food stores). which have more protein in them.

mastover
January 19th, 2008, 04:41 PM
much rather get them in a box all prepared as I have a busy lifestyle.

After reading many of your previous posts, if you truly wish to elicit a positive change upon your physical self, I would change the outlook you have on nutrition, which includes taking the brief time it requires during the day for proper food preparation.

guava
January 19th, 2008, 05:21 PM
I usually eat the quaker rolled kind in the cardboard container as a snack but recently switched to the steel cut variety (available at some grocery stores and in health food stores). which have more protein in them.As far as I know, steel cut and rolled oats are the exact same part of the oat, just processed differently. I didn't think one had any more protein than the other, for equivalent weight serving, though I do know that rolled oats have a higher glycemic index and are digested more quickly.

To the OP, if you're set on eating a cold boxed cereal, I'd recommend Shredded Wheat, which has wheat as the only ingredient, and 6 grams of fibre in a serving, which is pretty decent.

Here's another chart that might help you choose which cereals are better options than others:
HOW TO PICK A BREAKFAST CEREAL (http://www.drmirkin.com/nutrition/N180.htm)

MrEd
January 19th, 2008, 07:08 PM
hey guava

You might be right. I had heard the steel cut were less processed so i decided to give them a try. per the nutritional info on the back:

1/2 cup quaker oats has 5g protein (130 cal) vs. 1/4 cup steel cut has 6g protein (120 cals).


and to reiterate what mastover said, take it from someone who learned the hard way, good eating is absolutely critical to the process. i used to bust my hump in the gym and though i was fitter, i didn't look any better because i wasn't eating right.

MannishBoy
January 19th, 2008, 07:15 PM
hey guava

You might be right. I had heard the steel cut were less processed so i decided to give them a try. per the nutritional info on the back:

1/2 cup quaker oats has 5g protein (130 cal) vs. 1/4 cup steel cut has 6g protein (120 cals).

Most likely rounding errors based on serving size.

And who cares, the protein in oats is not a complete protein in regards to essential aminos. 1 g of oat protein will not matter in the big picture.

All that said, for eating, steel cut taste better to me and might as guava pointed out digest a bit slower (GI). But rolled are fine for a lot of purposes as well, and if you are in a hurry and don't want to eat them raw might be a better option.

razkaz
January 19th, 2008, 07:19 PM
To the UK folk (or to the US if an equivalent exists over there! - I haven't checked) - but how is Ready Brek?

http://www.weetabix.co.uk/brands/ready-brek/

The Original variety of course! From what I remember, it is oats fortified with minerals etc. I used to have it quite a bit as a kid :cool:

As it mixes with milk or water quite well, I was thinking about adding this to a protein shake and having it in the morning.


To the OP, I've only been on these forums a short time, but Nutrition is taken very seriously in terms of fat loss. My lifestyle is crazy atm - usually consists of waking up at 5:30am for work and coming back home at approx 8-9pm.

It's early days - I usually prepare everything beforehand and take all meals to work. It's tough but I wasn't expecting anything less. I'm just hoping that all my efforts will bring me results soon!

FiDdyNiCk
January 20th, 2008, 09:21 PM
i used to be the person who used to live on cereal, as dinner, brunch, lunch basically any time because it was convenient.

im NO expert in any way. but feel like telling you about oatmeal.

i have read many many times that the healthy weight banana bread quaker oatmeal in pre packaged form is most healthy and taste best.

I always have three packets with me at all times with a small plastic bowl.

when ever i feel the urge i slip in my lunch box find ANY gas station,
use the free hot water [next to coffee] and grab a free spoon.

eat oatmeal, clean bowl with some napkins, all in under 5 mins.

starting to like it soo much on my cheat day [while i type this] i have the same oatmeal with an actual chopped banana in it!!!

hope i was a help.

Gorilla
January 20th, 2008, 09:44 PM
Maybe its an acquired taste, but they aren't bad raw. I usually eat the quaker rolled kind in the cardboard container as a snack but recently switched to the steel cut variety (available at some grocery stores and in health food stores). which have more protein in them.

Yeah, there is no more protein in the steel cut than the rolled. The difference is that rolled oats are considered more "processed" because they are rolled, and they have a different taste/texture. In the end, they are both good for you.

NCNBilly
January 21st, 2008, 09:55 AM
+1 for shredded wheat, although I just got Shredded Wheat + Bran which has even more fiber. I think I'm going to crochet a blanket with my colon.

Seriously though, if you don't have 3 minutes to prep your food you are doomed...

mastover
January 22nd, 2008, 09:50 AM
i have read many many times that the healthy weight banana bread quaker oatmeal in pre packaged form is most healthy and taste best.


Hmmm, are you sure its the healthiest? Here are the list of ingredients:

WHOLE GRAIN ROLLED OATS, HIGH FRUCTOSE CORN SYRUP, SUGAR, BROWN SUGAR, OAT BRAN CONCENTRATE, RICE FLOUR, OAT FLOUR, MARGARINE (PARTIALLY HYDROGENATED SOYBEAN OIL, SOYBEAN OIL, WATER, PARTIALLY HYDROGENATED COTTONSEED OIL, SALT, MONO AND DIGLYCERIDES, SOY LECITHIN, CALCIUM DISODIUM EDTA [A PRESERVATIVE], ANNATTO COLOR, ARTIFICIAL FLAVOR, VITAMIN A PALMITATE), MALTODEXTRIN, MODIFIED FOOD STARCH, DRIED PUREED BANANAS, GLYCERIN, CORN SYRUP, DRIED WHOLE EGGS, WATER, NATURAL AND ARTIFICIAL FLAVORS, MALTED BARLEY EXTRACT, CALCIUM CARBONATE, SALT, SORBITOL, MALT (CONTAINS BARLEY, SOY, AND WHEAT COMPONENTS), SODIUM BICARBONATE, CORN FLOUR, MALIC ACID, SODIUM ALGINATE, ENZYME MODIFIED SOY PROTEIN, NATURAL MIXED TOCOPHEROLS, CALCIUM PHOSPHATE, SODIUM HEXAMETAPHOSPHATE, POTASSIUM SORBATE AND BHT (PRESERVATIVES), ARTIFICIAL COLOR, NIACINAMIDE*, VITAMIN A PALMITATE, REDUCED IRON, SODIUM PHOSPHATE, PYRIDOXINE HYDROCHLORIDE*, RIBOFLAVIN*, THIAMIN MONONITRATE*, FOLIC ACID*.

*ONE OF THE B VITAMINS

MAY CONTAIN SOY, EGG AND WHEAT INGREDIENTS.
MAY CONTAIN TRACES OF PEANUTS AND TREE NUTS.

.....My choice would be getting the instant plain oatmeal in packets, if convenience is priority, and possibly adding in your own ingredients of choice, like protein powder, peanut butter, whole almonds.

I'm sure this banana bread stuff would make for a tasty cheat, though. ;)

Rise
January 22nd, 2008, 10:54 AM
i eat my oatmeal cooked & with raisins. i just started eating it last week and i'm slowly getting used to eating it regularly. i was suprised when i ate it today and it actually tasted good :lol:

Master Moron
January 24th, 2008, 03:02 AM
Why not just eat straight oats? Rolled oats cook in about 3 minutes in the microwave (or you can eat them in milk raw). Put in a bit of fruit and/or cinnamon and ginger and maybe some splenda, and :eat:

3 minutes? Every kind of oatmeal I've bought cooks up in 1 minute 30. Unless there's a difference between rolled oats and oatmeal?

Hmmm, are you sure its the healthiest? Here are the list of ingredients:

WHOLE GRAIN ROLLED OATS, HIGH FRUCTOSE CORN SYRUP, SUGAR, BROWN SUGAR, OAT BRAN CONCENTRATE, RICE FLOUR, OAT FLOUR, MARGARINE (PARTIALLY HYDROGENATED SOYBEAN OIL, SOYBEAN OIL, WATER, PARTIALLY HYDROGENATED COTTONSEED OIL, SALT, MONO AND DIGLYCERIDES, SOY LECITHIN, CALCIUM DISODIUM EDTA [A PRESERVATIVE], ANNATTO COLOR, ARTIFICIAL FLAVOR, VITAMIN A PALMITATE), MALTODEXTRIN, MODIFIED FOOD STARCH, DRIED PUREED BANANAS, GLYCERIN, CORN SYRUP, DRIED WHOLE EGGS, WATER, NATURAL AND ARTIFICIAL FLAVORS, MALTED BARLEY EXTRACT, CALCIUM CARBONATE, SALT, SORBITOL, MALT (CONTAINS BARLEY, SOY, AND WHEAT COMPONENTS), SODIUM BICARBONATE, CORN FLOUR, MALIC ACID, SODIUM ALGINATE, ENZYME MODIFIED SOY PROTEIN, NATURAL MIXED TOCOPHEROLS, CALCIUM PHOSPHATE, SODIUM HEXAMETAPHOSPHATE, POTASSIUM SORBATE AND BHT (PRESERVATIVES), ARTIFICIAL COLOR, NIACINAMIDE*, VITAMIN A PALMITATE, REDUCED IRON, SODIUM PHOSPHATE, PYRIDOXINE HYDROCHLORIDE*, RIBOFLAVIN*, THIAMIN MONONITRATE*, FOLIC ACID*.

*ONE OF THE B VITAMINS

MAY CONTAIN SOY, EGG AND WHEAT INGREDIENTS.
MAY CONTAIN TRACES OF PEANUTS AND TREE NUTS.

.....My choice would be getting the instant plain oatmeal in packets, if convenience is priority, and possibly adding in your own ingredients of choice, like protein powder, peanut butter, whole almonds.

I'm sure this banana bread stuff would make for a tasty cheat, though. ;)

But...they used the banana bread kind on The Biggest Loser! Of course, I realize they were paid by Quaker to use the stuff on the show, but still, it does have more protein than regular oatmeal, correct?

mastover
January 24th, 2008, 05:28 AM
But...they used the banana bread kind on The Biggest Loser! Of course, I realize they were paid by Quaker to use the stuff on the show, but still, it does have more protein than regular oatmeal, correct?

No, not exactly. The increase in protein probably is a combination of the added rice flour, oat flour, bran, soy, portion size, etc.

As far as usable protein, it wouldn't be a viable source due to the incomplete amino acid array, and if you wanted to nitpick, the hydrogenated oils would also send out a red flag or two. Further, I would not look at oatmeal from a protein standpoint, but rather a source of clean, low GI, carbohydrates.

MannishBoy
January 24th, 2008, 09:00 AM
3 minutes? Every kind of oatmeal I've bought cooks up in 1 minute 30. Unless there's a difference between rolled oats and oatmeal?

Instant->Quick->Rolled->Steel Cut (or Irish)->Groats

Cooking times go in that direction. Steel cut oats take overnight soaking and 10 minutes+ cooking time. From left to right the amount of processing/precooking declines, so instant oats are both chopped small and pre-cooked before being dried.

But it's all to taste. I sometimes eat them raw.

But...they used the banana bread kind on The Biggest Loser! Of course, I realize they were paid by Quaker to use the stuff on the show, but still, it does have more protein than regular oatmeal, correct?

:rolleyes: There are lots of things you shouldn't try to emulate on that show. Their food selections from what I see can be questionable.

And mastover has you covered on the protein in oats. It's not complete protein. Your protein should primarily come from other sources. I do think the "Weight Control" Quaker packets include a bit of whey to give you a few g of whole proteins, but you are still better off with straight oats seasoned to taste without all the sugars. And so is your wallet.

andysutils
January 25th, 2008, 06:09 PM
I have seen a few people's diet and I am thinking about changing to some sort of fiber oat meal as I am wanting to stop eating regular cereals such as Frosties and Coco Pops etc full of sugar big time.

Can anyone recommend me an Oat/Fiber cereal great tasting and lots of fiber.

Thanks.raw oats, no sugar, no nothing, just plain and simple original oats, can microwave in 2 minutes if you like em warm, just look for something like natural raw oats or rolled oats i think is the other.

andysutils
January 25th, 2008, 06:12 PM
hey guava

You might be right. I had heard the steel cut were less processed so i decided to give them a try. per the nutritional info on the back:

1/2 cup quaker oats has 5g protein (130 cal) vs. 1/4 cup steel cut has 6g protein (120 cals).


and to reiterate what mastover said, take it from someone who learned the hard way, good eating is absolutely critical to the process. i used to bust my hump in the gym and though i was fitter, i didn't look any better because i wasn't eating right.me too, i use to bust my ass off everyday, i always wondered for all them years why i never grew or made any progress until jsf forum came along:confused:

Master Moron
January 26th, 2008, 05:16 PM
Hmmm, are you sure its the healthiest? Here are the list of ingredients:

WHOLE GRAIN ROLLED OATS, HIGH FRUCTOSE CORN SYRUP, SUGAR, BROWN SUGAR, OAT BRAN CONCENTRATE, RICE FLOUR, OAT FLOUR, MARGARINE (PARTIALLY HYDROGENATED SOYBEAN OIL, SOYBEAN OIL, WATER, PARTIALLY HYDROGENATED COTTONSEED OIL, SALT, MONO AND DIGLYCERIDES, SOY LECITHIN, CALCIUM DISODIUM EDTA [A PRESERVATIVE], ANNATTO COLOR, ARTIFICIAL FLAVOR, VITAMIN A PALMITATE), MALTODEXTRIN, MODIFIED FOOD STARCH, DRIED PUREED BANANAS, GLYCERIN, CORN SYRUP, DRIED WHOLE EGGS, WATER, NATURAL AND ARTIFICIAL FLAVORS, MALTED BARLEY EXTRACT, CALCIUM CARBONATE, SALT, SORBITOL, MALT (CONTAINS BARLEY, SOY, AND WHEAT COMPONENTS), SODIUM BICARBONATE, CORN FLOUR, MALIC ACID, SODIUM ALGINATE, ENZYME MODIFIED SOY PROTEIN, NATURAL MIXED TOCOPHEROLS, CALCIUM PHOSPHATE, SODIUM HEXAMETAPHOSPHATE, POTASSIUM SORBATE AND BHT (PRESERVATIVES), ARTIFICIAL COLOR, NIACINAMIDE*, VITAMIN A PALMITATE, REDUCED IRON, SODIUM PHOSPHATE, PYRIDOXINE HYDROCHLORIDE*, RIBOFLAVIN*, THIAMIN MONONITRATE*, FOLIC ACID*.

*ONE OF THE B VITAMINS

MAY CONTAIN SOY, EGG AND WHEAT INGREDIENTS.
MAY CONTAIN TRACES OF PEANUTS AND TREE NUTS.

.....My choice would be getting the instant plain oatmeal in packets, if convenience is priority, and possibly adding in your own ingredients of choice, like protein powder, peanut butter, whole almonds.

I'm sure this banana bread stuff would make for a tasty cheat, though. ;)

I don't know where you got this ingredient list, but it's wrong. I checked out the box while I was in the grocery store today and the first ingredient was rolled oats, the second ingredient was whey protein isolate. I didn't memorize the entire ingredient list, but there was no corn syrup listed. I'll try to find a complete list of ingredients. Found it:

WHOLE GRAIN ROLLED OATS, WHEY PROTEIN ISOLATE, MALTODEXTRIN, NATURAL AND ARTIFICIAL FLAVORS, SALT, OAT FLOUR, CALCIUM CARBONATE, GUAR GUM, CARAMEL COLOR, SOY LECITHIN, ACESULFAME POTASSIUM, SUCRALOSE, NIACINAMIDE*, VITAMIN A PALMITATE, REDUCED IRON, PYRIDOXINE HYDROCHLORIDE*, RIBOFLAVIN*, THIAMIN MONONITRATE*, FOLIC ACID*.

*ONE OF THE B VITAMINS

I'm not sure what most of those things are, but I'm a little curious what gives it the banana bread flavor.

J_W
January 26th, 2008, 05:19 PM
I don't know where you got this ingredient list, but it's wrong. I checked out the box while I was in the grocery store today and the first ingredient was rolled oats, the second ingredient was whey protein isolate. I didn't memorize the entire ingredient list, but there was no corn syrup listed. I'll try to find a complete list of ingredients.

The list of ingredients Mastover gave is on their website (http://www.quakeroatmeal.com/qo_ourProducts/oatmealToGo/product.cfm?productid=43).

Master Moron
January 26th, 2008, 05:30 PM
The list of ingredients Mastover gave is on their website (http://www.quakeroatmeal.com/qo_ourProducts/oatmealToGo/product.cfm?productid=43).

That's the regular banana bread. Fiddynick was talking about the Weight Control banana bread, which can be found here: http://www.quakeroatmeal.com/qo_ourProducts/instantQuakerOatmeal/weightControl/product.cfm?productid=28

Maybe people are getting confused because Fiddynick referred to it as "Healthy Weight" rather than it's real name "Weight Control".

guava
January 26th, 2008, 06:48 PM
ACESULFAME POTASSIUM, SUCRALOSE,
Artificial sweeteners

Sunnet (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Acesulfame_potassium) and Splenda (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sucralose)

I'm not sure what most of those things are, but I'm a little curious what gives it the banana bread flavor.

NATURAL AND ARTIFICIAL FLAVORS

it turns out that many flavors -- particularly fruit flavors -- have just one or a few dominant chemical components (http://science.howstuffworks.com/question391.htm)that carry the bulk of the taste/smell signal. Many of these chemicals are called esters. For example, the ester called isoamyl acetate (CH3COOC5H11) is a fundamental component of banana flavor. If you add these esters to a product, the product will taste, to some degree, like orange or banana. To make more realistic flavors you add other chemicals in the correct proportions to get closer and closer to the real thing. You can do that by trial and error or by chemical analysis of the real thing.

Master Moron
February 9th, 2008, 02:08 AM
Artificial sweeteners

Sunnet (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Acesulfame_potassium) and Splenda (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sucralose)

Hmmm...so that explains why my whey protein tastes so sweet. I guess they've improved artificial sweeteners, cause I remember they used to make me want to vomit.

So, we still haven't established whether the Weight Control Banana Bread is healthier than regular oatmeal. I'd kind of like to know. I'm actually interested in trying it, assuming it actually tastes like bananas, which I'm somewhat doubtful of.

MannishBoy
February 9th, 2008, 08:56 AM
Hmmm...so that explains why my whey protein tastes so sweet. I guess they've improved artificial sweeteners, cause I remember they used to make me want to vomit.

So, we still haven't established whether the Weight Control Banana Bread is healthier than regular oatmeal. I'd kind of like to know. I'm actually interested in trying it, assuming it actually tastes like bananas, which I'm somewhat doubtful of.

It isn't. It's not a horrible product, but straight oatmeal is a lot cheaper without a bunch of things you might not want. If you want whey protein in addition to oats, use whey protein in addition to oats.

And in general, food taste additives are much better than they were just a few years ago.

These products might be OK if you travel as they are very convenient and not quite as full of sugar as most of the packets. But then there are also ziplock bags you can put your own mix in.

There is absolutely nothing magically "Weight Control" in this. It's just oats + small amount of whey.


Artificial sweeteners

Sunnet (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Acesulfame_potassium) and Splenda (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sucralose)

And don't forget one of the top ingredients is "MALTODEXTRIN". A high GI carb that's used to spike insulin by many post workout. Don't see that having anything at all to help "Weigiht Control".