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RandomMeatz October 12th, 2007, 03:10 PM http://www.mattfurey.com/primate_power.html
Anyone familiar with this or similar programs? Load of gimmickry or some truth to it?
chicanerous October 12th, 2007, 03:42 PM Here's some of his other websites:
http://chineseculturesecrets.com/
http://knockoutmarketing.com/
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RandomMeatz October 12th, 2007, 03:51 PM Yeah...those look terrible. Still, is there even a kernel of truth to the concept of bodyweight training as he describes it, ignoring the marketing?
Not that I'd pay $350. Bittorrent is my friend.
JoeSchmo October 12th, 2007, 08:55 PM The logic is completely idiotic -- Chimps aren't stronger than us because they swing around in trees and we don't ... They are stronger than us because of their physiology. A sedentary chimp will still be loads stronger than an athletic human.
Buster October 12th, 2007, 10:45 PM Oh my God, I can't believe it! That's so ridiculous it's hilarious! I can't imagine a single person paying for that :eek:
macarius October 13th, 2007, 09:29 AM Easily one of the most ludicrous things I've read in a very long time.
"From chump to chimp"
Classic.
specialk October 13th, 2007, 09:41 AM Oh my God, I can't believe it! That's so ridiculous it's hilarious! I can't imagine a single person paying for that :eek:
If his claim of being a millionaire are correct than I would imagine there were more than "a single person" who willingly coughed up the dough!
RandomMeatz October 13th, 2007, 03:11 PM I've downloaded (via bittorrent) and watched some of it, and it isn't even a professional-level production. Just a guy in a park with a camera.
sevenatenine October 13th, 2007, 04:32 PM The logic is completely idiotic -- Chimps aren't stronger than us because they swing around in trees and we don't ... They are stronger than us because of their physiology. A sedentary chimp will still be loads stronger than an athletic human.
But in all fairness they are probably physiologically stronger then us because through evolution when we were making chairs and couches to sit on and spending every bit of our brain power to try and make our own lives easier, they were swinging through trees. I'm sure if the human race had been swinging through trees for the past hundred thousand years we would all be pretty strong too!
As for that guy.....:rolleyes:
You wouldn't be able to gain muscle/strength like a monkey by swinging from a tree (or doing body weight exercises) anymore then you would be able to grow hair like a monkey if you stopped wearing a coat in the winter. Evolution takes tens (hundreds?) of thousands of years to advance, you cant change that by doing a bunch of body weight exercises on the weekend.
HevyMetal October 13th, 2007, 04:32 PM Pavel Tsatsouline in " The Naked Warrior" talks about doing a single-arm chinup using one finger and a guy in a circus that could do it....and how he did it.
Pavel covers a lot of ground on how to do one-arm pushups etc.
If you're a top-ranked gymnast who uses German Ring Workouts, you''ll be chimp-like but pound-for-pound nowhere nears as strong as a chimp.
There are many exotic moves...like the one-arm handstand,one-arm chin etc.etc.....
Most one-arm super moves require very good grip strength.
So to match chimp-power per se you would have to be stronger than any gymnast on the planet for starters.
According to Mr.Furey an Orangutan can kill a crocodile with it's bare fist. Chimp-power or not ,you won't be doing that anytime soon...
Unless it's a tiny croc...like a Cayman.
There are lots of guys that can "walk" across a ladder-type runged monkey-bar rig....but that doesn't put them in "primate" league.
If you are a person who's arms are excessively long and your legs are way shorter than normal you might have a more sporting chance at being chimp-like than me....:)
chicanerous October 13th, 2007, 08:46 PM But in all fairness they are probably physiologically stronger then us because through evolution when we were making chairs and couches to sit on and spending every bit of our brain power to try and make our own lives easier, they were swinging through trees. I'm sure if the human race had been swinging through trees for the past hundred thousand years we would all be pretty strong too!
Unless I'm getting my dates wrong, we haven't been swinging through the trees for millions of years.
Cramp11 October 14th, 2007, 10:53 AM Oh my God, I can't believe it! That's so ridiculous it's hilarious! I can't imagine a single person paying for that :eek:
Have you seen infomercials on TV? The world is full of stupid people. Stupid people buy stuff. It's all about marketing.
sevenatenine October 14th, 2007, 03:14 PM Unless I'm getting my dates wrong, we haven't been swinging through the trees for millions of years.
I was just thinking that if we had been swinging through the tree's for the past hundred thousand years, (compared to doing body weight training for a few years) we would as a race be much stronger. Evolution doesn't happen over night is the point I was trying to make.
squatguy20 October 14th, 2007, 10:38 PM Chimp vs Man:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rotZc_uj1vg
Female chimp @ 13yrs old, half the bodyweight, doesn't take it seriously and still wins.
Matt Furey is not the worst of the worst, but he does mislead people to get sales.
Chimps simply have a massive genetic advantage in terms of strength, it's nothing to do with the type of training they do. Silverback Gorillas are somethin' else aswell.
zenpharaohs October 15th, 2007, 12:08 AM Chimp vs Man:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rotZc_uj1vg
Female chimp @ 13yrs old, half the bodyweight, doesn't take it seriously and still wins.
That's not a chimp. That was an orangutan.
squatguy20 October 15th, 2007, 11:02 AM That's not a chimp. That was an orangutan.
It was nearly 3 o clock in the morning when I posted that. :o
Point still stands. It's a genetic advantage that makes cimps, orangutans and gorilla's stronger than us, and not the evnironmental stimulus of jumping/climbing/swinging around trees.
cajunman October 15th, 2007, 02:58 PM Furey is by most accounts a nice enough guy, but his outlandish marketing hyperbole would make even Bill Phillips (or Muscletech, fill in the blank with who you want) blush...
RandomMeatz October 15th, 2007, 06:44 PM Pete Sisco's Power Factor Training sounds like a bill o' goodz as well. :confused:
Buster October 17th, 2007, 08:14 PM Have you seen infomercials on TV? The world is full of stupid people. Stupid people buy stuff. It's all about marketing.
I was actually thinking...those stupid exercise commercials on TV: should the information in them be regulated much more closely? I've seen so many adverts for products like steppers where the presenter claims they can "build up your thighs" etc...
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