View Full Version : Overtraining when cutting question


tadpole
September 24th, 2007, 06:46 PM
I have a question regarding cutting weight and overtraining.
Currently I have bulked up to 205lbs and although I have a little bit of a four pack still, I have gained most of my fat around my lower abs. So for the next 1.5 to 2 months I would like to cut down to 195-198lbs in order to lean out a little bit and aim for 1lbs of loss per week. My total caloric intake when bulking was approx 3600-4000 kcal, so for the first couple of weeks im going to keep my intake at around 2900 kcal and proceed to drop my calorie intake depending if I loose any weight or not.
Essentially, my actual question is should I keep lifting the same way as I did when bulking? During my bulk I have noticed that my body is more receptive to higher volume training as well as to super/dropsets and performing 4-6 reps on my last one or two sets. So when dieting would it be more beneficial to stick with a more basic routine that doesnt involve as heavy lifting or supersets since I want to abstain from overtraining as a result of the reduced calories? I would like to limit the amount of muscle and strength loss so I figured the best thing would to ask for some advice first since there is quite a bit of people with experience and knowledge on here.

Thanks a bunch!

sodomojo
September 24th, 2007, 08:01 PM
Thats a good question. I'm currently doing The Cut Diet, and they have a very rigorous lifting routine with it, so I would imagine that you would keep lifting hard, but don't be surprised if some of your lifts don't increase, or possibly even decrease slightly.

SpikyBry
October 6th, 2007, 02:16 PM
I'm going to bump this thread, I'd like to hear the opinion of other people, because I have the exact same question!

GRCRYSTYK
October 6th, 2007, 10:36 PM
Real long and sometimes very controversial story very short,...

Keep lifting heavy, and cut back on the total volume, for recovery reasons as you suspected. If your muscles don't have a reason to stay status quoe, they will begin to atrophy in pretty quick order, on a calorie deficit.

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kaaud
October 7th, 2007, 10:42 PM
Have u heard about Max-OT ?? 4 times a week ,30-40 minutes per session ,perfect for strength gains on bulking or cutting...

It is not another fad routine if that what came to ur mind...

NEdge
October 9th, 2007, 07:24 PM
Real long and sometimes very controversial story very short,...

Keep lifting heavy, and cut back on the total volume, for recovery reasons as you suspected. If your muscles don't have a reason to stay status quoe, they will begin to atrophy in pretty quick order, on a calorie deficit.

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x2, although IMO some periodization is still a good idea. You don't have to lift in the low rep ranges (1-4), if that's what you mean by 'heavy'.

But it is definitely easier to overtrain, so in the long run usually something has to give - either more rest days/weeks or lower volume for each workout.

Of course if you were not close to overtraining/over-reaching when bulking you may get away with keeping the same volume and still be able to recover.

I would start off with a slightly lower volume and adjust accordingly - listen to your body and take extra rest days and/or reduce volume as necessary. Of course you should still put a good effort into each workout.

erik.whitman
October 11th, 2007, 06:17 AM
When cutting, is it better to lift light with high volume or lift heavy with low volume. I have just started cutting, and it is about time for me to switch routines. I think I am going to start a High Weight-Low Rep program to try to keep my strength up, but I am not sure what type of program is better. When cutting I dont want to lose to much lean body mass. Any suggestions?

Foley
October 11th, 2007, 06:58 AM
When cutting, is it better to lift light with high volume or lift heavy with low volume. I have just started cutting, and it is about time for me to switch routines. I think I am going to start a High Weight-Low Rep program to try to keep my strength up, but I am not sure what type of program is better. When cutting I dont want to lose to much lean body mass. Any suggestions?
IMO, lift the same as you would if you were bulking, but just decrease the volume. Just decrease the sets a bit.