View Full Version : What Sort of Cardio is martial arts considered?


tigeraid
September 11th, 2007, 02:15 PM
A heavy bag routine, specifically. I was winding down after a half-hour of Bas Rutten's training CD, and it occurred to me just how brutal a workout it is. There's tons of hard hitting and high impact (my choice of course, I could pull punches and kicks if I wanted to) and I'm plenty sore after, and moreso the day after, much like I do when I'm training with weights. While I'm sure hundreds of punches and elbows and kicks and knees don't provide the kind of burn lifting heavy weight does, I've gotta think it does a bunch more work than, say, a jog around the block.

Should this idea affect how often I do it, or how much I should be weight training every OTHER day? I'm worried I might end up wrecking my arms or legs from all the impact followed by weight lifting.

zenpharaohs
September 11th, 2007, 03:34 PM
A heavy bag routine, specifically. I was winding down after a half-hour of Bas Rutten's training CD, and it occurred to me just how brutal a workout it is. There's tons of hard hitting and high impact (my choice of course, I could pull punches and kicks if I wanted to) and I'm plenty sore after, and moreso the day after, much like I do when I'm training with weights. While I'm sure hundreds of punches and elbows and kicks and knees don't provide the kind of burn lifting heavy weight does, I've gotta think it does a bunch more work than, say, a jog around the block.

Should this idea affect how often I do it, or how much I should be weight training every OTHER day? I'm worried I might end up wrecking my arms or legs from all the impact followed by weight lifting.

Use a heart monitor and find out. It's probably medium intensity steady state, unless you have to have rest intervals, in which case it's HIIT.

NotNamedDan
September 11th, 2007, 07:37 PM
Boxing/fighting in general is much more along the lines of HIIT. You work in bursts of high output, with small breaks. But that would depend on how you personally workout with the bag. If you throw steady punches consistently for twenty minutes, you are weird. Err, I mean, that would be more like steady state cardio.

Chances are, though, that you throw combinations, move in bursts, and take rest breaks. If you are using rounds to structure the workout, then that's almost certainly the case.

I generally try not to do heavy shoulder work on days when I work the bag/fight. Nothing else - knees, elbows, kicks, etc. - seems to affect my other lifting, but the exhaustion of the shoulders that you'll be feeling if you are really keeping your hands up and throwing a high volume of jabs tends to interfere with my arm workouts - or if in the other order, my fighting exhausts my shoulders before I lift.

Just listen to your body and do what feels right.

tigeraid
September 12th, 2007, 05:34 PM
Boxing/fighting in general is much more along the lines of HIIT. You work in bursts of high output, with small breaks. But that would depend on how you personally workout with the bag. If you throw steady punches consistently for twenty minutes, you are weird. Err, I mean, that would be more like steady state cardio.

Chances are, though, that you throw combinations, move in bursts, and take rest breaks. If you are using rounds to structure the workout, then that's almost certainly the case.

I generally try not to do heavy shoulder work on days when I work the bag/fight. Nothing else - knees, elbows, kicks, etc. - seems to affect my other lifting, but the exhaustion of the shoulders that you'll be feeling if you are really keeping your hands up and throwing a high volume of jabs tends to interfere with my arm workouts - or if in the other order, my fighting exhausts my shoulders before I lift.

Just listen to your body and do what feels right.

Well that's certainly true, my shoulders in general are just destroyed after 7 rounds.

fpena
September 15th, 2007, 03:25 PM
Well that's certainly true, my shoulders in general are just destroyed after 7 rounds.

I do the same Bas Rutten workout two days a week but then also go to an actual Muay Thai class for another two days. For my weight training I do three full body workouts with a medium amount of weight.

My shoulders are most impacted by the workout but not to the point that I cannot train them any longer. I just make sure not to go with full weights since being sore will prevent me from performing effectively.