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DH 2009 September 6th, 2007, 02:21 PM Hi and thank you for reading my post.
I am 25 years old
5-10
197
I have recently decided to lose some weight through exercise and diet. I have also recently discovered that I have abnormally high blood pressure for a man of my age.
My blood pressure average for the last week is 155/107.
Should I be concerned with pushing myself too hard?
I played competitive Ice Hockey in the past and am generally an athlete, although Ive been inactive for a year now, I do work construction.
I feel weak and tired all the time lately and have decided to act. I had blood work done as well as an ECG this morning.
Would it be a good idea to wait for results before extensive workouts? Has anyone also had high blood pressure that could give me advice? Thank you in advance.
Blighty September 7th, 2007, 08:25 PM Weight training can help in a programme to normalise blood pressure but it also causes a temporay increase in blood pressure. Some movements, such as heavy deadlifts require that you hold your breath. Doing this in your case could be very dangerous as this would send your blood pressure up really high. See your medical practitioner before you embark on heavy weightlifting. I think that lighter weights with higer repetitions is recommended, but get medical advice.
Good luck. Also, try meditative, relaxation techniques. Try not to get too stressed.
JoeSchmo September 7th, 2007, 09:04 PM Yeah, your BP is pretty high, so I don't know if lifting heavy weight and the resulting use of the valsalva maneuver is potentially hazardous. Definately talk to your doctor about it first.
Did your doctor put you on any medication?
fullpen September 7th, 2007, 09:47 PM Hi and thank you for reading my post.
I am 25 years old
5-10
197
I have recently decided to lose some weight through exercise and diet. I have also recently discovered that I have abnormally high blood pressure for a man of my age.
My blood pressure average for the last week is 155/107.
Should I be concerned with pushing myself too hard?
I played competitive Ice Hockey in the past and am generally an athlete, although Ive been inactive for a year now, I do work construction.
I feel weak and tired all the time lately and have decided to act. I had blood work done as well as an ECG this morning.
Would it be a good idea to wait for results before extensive workouts? Has anyone also had high blood pressure that could give me advice? Thank you in advance.
that's probably a sign you should be a little more agressive in questioning your medical practitioner. i do structural fab and was never athletic and my BP was never that high before i lost my weight. My family in the health care sector say any time the lower bp number is over 100 and the higher number is over 140 there should be a great amount of caution involved with regard to overall health.
Nowhereman September 7th, 2007, 10:01 PM Click here (http://forums.johnstonefitness.com/showpost.php?p=448992&postcount=19)
DH 2009 September 7th, 2007, 10:48 PM I attempted to visit the docter today, however it seems that my docter is on vacation until tuesday. I asked his secretary if I could reach him because I've learned that I'm in need of medication but she said he will not accept calls. I was shocked because my docter knows full well that my family has a heart problem history. Yes my readings are quite high at the moment however today they dropped to 138/95 on the average.
I have been advised by telehealth ontario to cease all strenuous activity until by BP reaches lower levels.
I have learned that a public health system sometimes isn't all that great.
Tomorrow I will visit a drop-in clinic to talk to a random docter. He has no access to my file, so I hope I can explain the seriousness of my situation and be referred to a heart specialist ASAP!
Thanks to all who replied with advice, it has helped me realize the importance of acting now to prevent anything from happening in the future.
Ive just joined this forum and was looking forward to training but I will have to wait until Im sorted.
zenpharaohs September 8th, 2007, 12:05 AM Weight training can help in a programme to normalise blood pressure but it also causes a temporay increase in blood pressure. Some movements, such as heavy deadlifts require that you hold your breath.
Do not hold your breath (Valsalva) for any lift. You let it out slowly under a lot of control, but you do not hold your breath. This advice is not just for pepole with high blood pressure either.
zenpharaohs September 8th, 2007, 12:08 AM Click here (http://forums.johnstonefitness.com/showpost.php?p=448992&postcount=19)
Don't start taking therapeutic doses of niacin without getting the liver tests. My doctor stopped me from doing the 3g daily which I was tolerating just fine as far as I could tell. Without regular liver tests he didn't want me to take more than 1.5g daily (which is what I take).
zenpharaohs September 8th, 2007, 12:10 AM Thanks to all who replied with advice, it has helped me realize the importance of acting now to prevent anything from happening in the future.
Ive just joined this forum and was looking forward to training but I will have to wait until Im sorted.
Yeah there will be some peeking and poking. But, when they have it figured out, if you do have a blood pressure problem, expect that exercise will be a huge value in managing it. If you let your problems get worse without training, then you might end up with so small an exercise tolerance that you can't help yourself. I saw that happen to a guy, and he died at 46 of the heart attack they always said was coming. Try to avoid getting cut off from exercise any more than is absolutely medically necessary.
Andrew M September 8th, 2007, 07:03 AM A diastolic of 107 is nasty, and 95 is still not good.
You need treatment soon, and will likely need treatment for life.
Hypertension is pervasive and insidious, and will screw you over in the long run. You need to see you doctor and insist on treatment.
Andrew.
gareth September 8th, 2007, 09:17 AM think you'd better find out the cause of your hypertension first.
Blighty September 8th, 2007, 01:38 PM Do not hold your breath (Valsalva) for any lift. You let it out slowly under a lot of control, but you do not hold your breath. This advice is not just for pepole with high blood pressure either.
That's what I thought when I first read about it. I read years ago that one breathes out as the effort is made. I intend, when I start deadlifting again, to contunue to breathe out as I lift the weight. And to have my gut muscles tensed. When I was doing DLs, I breathed out. I particularly didn't like the descriptions of lightheadness and flashing lights before the eyes whilst holding the breath.
zenpharaohs September 8th, 2007, 02:33 PM A diastolic of 107 is nasty, and 95 is still not good.
You need treatment soon, and will likely need treatment for life.
Hypertension is pervasive and insidious, and will screw you over in the long run. You need to see you doctor and insist on treatment.
You should listen to this guy. He knows this subject.
Dr.Jen September 10th, 2007, 10:18 PM You are far too young to have this problem.
What did your doc say?
I have all kinds of ideas that you coudl do to help yourself... but not until you rule out pathology...
Dr. Jen
Blighty September 11th, 2007, 08:25 PM After you've seen your medico and have been given the green light, you might find this interesting, with their ideas on exercise:
http://www.unm.edu/~lkravitz/Article%20folder/hypertension.html
One of their recommendations is to get more omega 3. They mention fish. But you can get omega 3 capsules that are rich in DHA and EPA - made from algae. Which is where fish get theirs. I don't mean that fish buy these capsules. Oh no, they get their source from algae. Just thought I'd mention it.
jaybird-15 September 11th, 2007, 09:37 PM After you've seen your medico and have been given the green light, you might find this interesting, with their ideas on exercise:
http://www.unm.edu/~lkravitz/Article%20folder/hypertension.html
One of their recommendations is to get more omega 3. They mention fish. But you can get omega 3 capsules that are rich in DHA and EPA - made from algae. Which is where fish get theirs. I don't mean that fish buy these capsules. Oh no, they get their source from algae. Just thought I'd mention it.
Blighty..
Excellent article reference...nice going...
DH 2009 September 12th, 2007, 01:42 AM You are far too young to have this problem.
What did your doc say?
I have all kinds of ideas that you coudl do to help yourself... but not until you rule out pathology...
Dr. Jen
what is pathology?, and how do I rule it out?
DH 2009 September 12th, 2007, 01:54 AM think you'd better find out the cause of your hypertension first.
This is my goal, however Im not your average hypertension sufferer,
1. I don't smoke
2. I don't drink coffee
3. Im fairly active
4. I eat healthy, maybe too much, but clean.
which leads me to my father who passed at the age of 37 from a heart attack. Can hypertension be passed down? Im getting a little worried about some of the things Im reading. They call HPT the silent killer. I did not go to the drop in clinic as I said I would but I did get a message from my Dr today. I will call tomorrow and see what he said, maybe my results are in.
zenpharaohs September 12th, 2007, 02:26 AM what is pathology?, and how do I rule it out?
Pathology is illness.
Your doctor can rule it out. Or tell you what it is.
You have to see a doctor with the blood pressure you told us. It's not safe to ignore this.
zenpharaohs September 12th, 2007, 02:28 AM This is my goal, however Im not your average hypertension sufferer,
1. I don't smoke
2. I don't drink coffee
3. Im fairly active
4. I eat healthy, maybe too much, but clean.
which leads me to my father who passed at the age of 37 from a heart attack. Can hypertension be passed down? Im getting a little worried about some of the things Im reading. They call HPT the silent killer. I did not go to the drop in clinic as I said I would but I did get a message from my Dr today. I will call tomorrow and see what he said, maybe my results are in.
Yes it can be inherited. With your family history, it is even more important that you follow up with your doctor.
Good luck and let us know what the deal is. Don't forget to ask the doctor about exercise.
DH 2009 September 12th, 2007, 01:26 PM Yes it can be inherited. With your family history, it is even more important that you follow up with your doctor.
Good luck and let us know what the deal is. Don't forget to ask the doctor about exercise.
Thank you Zen for your quick answers. It is a relief having a forum such as this that I can post on and have people respond with information. I will certainly keep my situation posted not only for my well being but for others who have the same issues. To all that have responded thank you very much, I really appreciate it! :) If nothing else just writing about this sort of makes me feel calm, so that alone is worth something.
DH 2009 September 12th, 2007, 01:30 PM After you've seen your medico and have been given the green light, you might find this interesting, with their ideas on exercise:
http://www.unm.edu/~lkravitz/Article%20folder/hypertension.html
One of their recommendations is to get more omega 3. They mention fish. But you can get omega 3 capsules that are rich in DHA and EPA - made from algae. Which is where fish get theirs. I don't mean that fish buy these capsules. Oh no, they get their source from algae. Just thought I'd mention it.
This article has been very helpful, thank you for posting it!
Dr.Jen September 13th, 2007, 11:13 AM Pathology...
sorry I didn't answer sooner. Yes, pathology: illness.... when something is wrong. I typically tell people to rule out pathology when I am concerned that if they don't get medical care right away, it might get worse.
By the way: I hope you are well, and that all this concern is not upsetting you. The idea is that you get care- not that you get more stressed out, and make your BP go even higher.
mudphud September 13th, 2007, 11:28 PM I attempted to visit the docter today, however it seems that my docter is on vacation until tuesday. I asked his secretary if I could reach him because I've learned that I'm in need of medication but she said he will not accept calls. I was shocked because my docter knows full well that my family has a heart problem history. Yes my readings are quite high at the moment however today they dropped to 138/95 on the average.
I have been advised by telehealth ontario to cease all strenuous activity until by BP reaches lower levels.
I have learned that a public health system sometimes isn't all that great.
Tomorrow I will visit a drop-in clinic to talk to a random docter. He has no access to my file, so I hope I can explain the seriousness of my situation and be referred to a heart specialist ASAP!
Thanks to all who replied with advice, it has helped me realize the importance of acting now to prevent anything from happening in the future.
Ive just joined this forum and was looking forward to training but I will have to wait until Im sorted.
How are you measuring your BP? Some the automatic machines are good and others are not. Also you should measure it while seated with your arm resting at the level of your heart. Did your doctor get the same BP as you when he took it?
To be honest I don't blame your doctor's sec for not letting you call him on vacation. Your BP should be addressed but that BP isn't a medical emergency (and doctors shouldn't prescribe drugs from a patient's phone call). Your doctor probably wanted to see the results of his tests before starting you on medication or other treatment so he could choose the best course of action. If he did an EKG and ordered blood work it sounds like he is taking it seriously. Just make sure you ask him anything you need to at your next appointment.
DH 2009 September 14th, 2007, 05:28 PM How are you measuring your BP? Some the automatic machines are good and others are not. Also you should measure it while seated with your arm resting at the level of your heart. Did your doctor get the same BP as you when he took it?
To be honest I don't blame your doctor's sec for not letting you call him on vacation. Your BP should be addressed but that BP isn't a medical emergency (and doctors shouldn't prescribe drugs from a patient's phone call). Your doctor probably wanted to see the results of his tests before starting you on medication or other treatment so he could choose the best course of action. If he did an EKG and ordered blood work it sounds like he is taking it seriously. Just make sure you ask him anything you need to at your next appointment.
I would have to disagree with you on that point. The secretary would not allow me to leave a personal message for him and expected me to tell her what was wrong with me so she could tell him. In my opinion, my health is none of the secretary's business.
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