Idunno what this is or why but...

I was just casually playing a computer game. Wasn't using any energy at the time. Then out of nowhere I get a "pulse" or "thrust" feeling in my head. My vision gets blurry and I get pretty dizzy. A second later it's gone except for a bit of lasting slight dizziness and a bit of head pressure.

What the crap was that? Never had something like that happen before. I'm not dehydrated or anything. Felt weird.

See a doctor ASAP. I strongly urge that you NOT ignore this, especially given that it's to do with your head and it's affecting your vision and making you dizzy, too.

sounds like a migrain

Every time I see a doctor they tell me it's nothing, charge me $50+ and send me home. Stupid US health system.

I get that too! its like a waver of conciousness. I get it maybe once every week or so, less lately. I don't think its anything serious. it only lasts a second. I remember getting it often when I would have any alcohol.

Every time I see a doctor they tell me it's nothing, charge me $50+ and send me home. Stupid US health system.

Mmmm, perhaps you should get a second opinion, or fork out for a private consultation. You don't really want to mess with your brain, after all its kinda important. :nod:

Every time I see a doctor they tell me it's nothing, charge me $50+ and send me home. Stupid US health system.

I don't understand why paying to see a doctor is a problem. You pay other people for their services. My experience with patients that don't pay anything for their medical care is that they blow off their appointments, complain about everything, and are ungrateful for the care they get. Now health care shouldn't be prohibitively expensive but if people pay something for it they evaluate if they need to go the doctor and they value the service. People get angry if they have to pay a co-pay for something that keeps them alive but are happy to spend the money going to the movies and buying popcorn. Isn't your health worth paying an occasional $50 or so?

If there is nothing wrong with you what do you want the doctor to do? Say there is something wrong so you feel like you got your money's worth?

I'm not sure what caused your episode. However, it sounds like you a describing presyncope - that is almost passing out. Was that what it felt like? Did you have any other symptoms like sweating or nausea? If you see a doctor or not is up to you. Since this just happened once it is true that they may not do a major workup. However, if you experience it again I'd definately recommend going to the doctor.

edit: sorry about the rant at the beginning just touched a nerve i guess

It wasn't really an episode. It was just casual banter. :P

Just gimmie universal health care! But that's another subject. :read:


My typing style suggests great emotion. That's hardly true.



As for whatever happened... I'm just going to ignore it since I'm still alive and I'm broke.

Just gimmie universal health care! But that's another subject. :read:


It is indeed.

Keep us posted if it happens again or you experience any other symptoms.

Was it like that feeling when ur sitting down for a prolonged amount of time then stand up really fast and u get light headed and almost black out. Was it like that?

When I was benching one time it felt like someone hit me in the side of the head with an axe. I ignored it, smartly.

Maybe it is sinus. Every so often I get this severe pressure behind my eyes and nose and get dizzy. Then it goes away.

I don't understand why paying to see a doctor is a problem. You pay other people for their services. My experience with patients that don't pay anything for their medical care is that they blow off their appointments, complain about everything, and are ungrateful for the care they get. Now health care shouldn't be prohibitively expensive but if people pay something for it they evaluate if they need to go the doctor and they value the service. People get angry if they have to pay a co-pay for something that keeps them alive but are happy to spend the money going to the movies and buying popcorn. Isn't your health worth paying an occasional $50 or so?

If there is nothing wrong with you what do you want the doctor to do? Say there is something wrong so you feel like you got your money's worth?

I'm not sure what caused your episode. However, it sounds like you a describing presyncope - that is almost passing out. Was that what it felt like? Did you have any other symptoms like sweating or nausea? If you see a doctor or not is up to you. Since this just happened once it is true that they may not do a major workup. However, if you experience it again I'd definately recommend going to the doctor.

edit: sorry about the rant at the beginning just touched a nerve i guess

You know what pisses me off? When I go to my doctor, get dinged for 20 bucks and he tells me im fine when im having chest pains. To find later that I have high blood pressure at a very young age, and possibly other issues. It also pisses me off when I have a frakkin sinus infection and I am told it is allergies for a month before i finally pay another 20 bucks bringing the total up to 60, so that I get some damn medicine. That is what pisses me off about my doctor, he is like a shitty car mechanic. If I was to debug software like he figures out what is wrong w. patients I would not have a job. It's not the money being paid that is the problem, its paying the money and getting nothing for it. :mad:

I really don't like my doctor so ... that struck a nerve w. me too.

Your doctor didn't notice you have high blood pressure? What does he do when you visit him taking BP is pretty darn basic. Between that and your other issues it sounds like you need a new doctor. Sounds like he was wasting your time and money. Some doctors just plain suck I won't argue with you on that one but they aren't all bad shop around (hopefully you can depending on your health insurance - I'm not an expert on that but I'd hope that even if you are in some kind of HMO/managed care you can get a different doctor).:gl:

Every time I see a doctor they tell me it's nothing, charge me $50+ and send me home. Stupid US health system.

Yeah, it's just insane to expect people to pay for their own health-care. It'd be MUCH better to have mediocre health care by sub-par doctors and have to wait in line for YEARS to get simple procedures done all because the Government controls people's health-care.

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Your doctor didn't notice you have high blood pressure? What does he do when you visit him taking BP is pretty darn basic. Between that and your other issues it sounds like you need a new doctor. Sounds like he was wasting your time and money. Some doctors just plain suck I won't argue with you on that one but they aren't all bad shop around (hopefully you can depending on your health insurance - I'm not an expert on that but I'd hope that even if you are in some kind of HMO/managed care you can get a different doctor).:gl:

Yeah, I am waiting until the "open period" so I can switch to Priority Health... I dont know how famous they are but it is the most expensive plan I can pick. So hopefully the doctors there will be better. My wife goes through this other plan thingie that does a lot of preventative health stuff, like actual health care... not sick care. That sounds pretty nipply so I may look into that too.

I remember the first time I had chest pains was when I was like 18 or 19, went to the doctor to be told that "oh it is probably skeletal..." Heck I still don't know what these "episodes" are, but it doesnt occur when my rib cage expands and contracts with breath. It occurs w. every heart beat. If I eat really high fat ... well over like 80g of fat / day and have red meat I start to get these. So consequently I have fairly decent diet. So hopefully I get to switch doctors :blank:

Anyway, while I agree with the free medical health care system being crap, some doctors aren't worth two patoots.

PS: I had my cholesterol and junk tested and when I first started exercising it was like 220 or some wild thing like that, which was weird cause I wasn't that overweight, old or ate a ton of crap. In the past 3 years I had fast food ( if you dont count pizza ) a total of like 8 times. I just dont like mikey d's and others. Anyway, after my cut and like 3 months or so my LDL was at 138 and HDL was like 79 or something. Blood sugars were normal... bla bla... If anyone here is some kind of medical, the pain is under my left pec bout midway up the peck....

The association with your chest pain and food intake is odd (at least I'm coming up blank). Is the pain at all positional? Does lying down make it worse or leaning forward make it better? I assume it isn't tender? Could you describe the pain? How long have you had these episodes for and how long does each one last?

Well we might be able to come up with a possible diagnosis a skilled clinician should really take a look - a good cardiac exam might reveal something. I'm not coming up with much at the moment. I'll try to think about it and hopefully you can find a good doctor.

Make sure the doctor understands if you think this is a serious issue. Doctors have to filter out what is important and what it isn't and sometimes they do a bad job of it. As a patient you need to make sure the doctor is taking you seriously if you are worried about something.

Oh and your LDL is still a little on the high side (but your HDL is awesome). Sounds like you may have a predisposition for high cholesterol so make sure that is monitored.

Oh and your LDL is still a little on the high side (but your HDL is awesome). Sounds like you may have a predisposition for high cholesterol so make sure that is monitored.

Yeah, my grandpa on my moms side died when I was 6, he was 52. My mom's BP and cholesterol are astronomically high, same as his, and it seems to have been passed down to me... Happy Birthday to me eh ? Most of the reason that I am hitting the gym this hard and trying to basically be in the best shape possible is because I don't want right now to be my midlife.... ( What should the LDL be at btw? I thought 138 was pretty good. )

I was reading around online and it looks like Angina Pectosomething or other has similar manifestations as my chest pains. Which would be weird cause I thought that was something that only older / overweight people got, and at my heaviest I was only 10 - 15 lbs overweight.

I gotta see a cardiologist because there are a few weird things happening. As far as BP goes I have a very high number and a considerably lower number. So I'll have like 140/61, or if it is really high 160/80 ( yes I'm on meds for that but it still rises that much sometimes, I have a home BP machine thingie ). Anyway, I read about that and there is something where the top part of the heart can get out of whack w. the lower half and that can cause the gap in numbers. I forget what it is called, but it was in Men's Health magazine.

Then there is the whole chest pain thing, speaking of no switching positions does not help. I also get very VERY warm when I get that and break into a sweat ... I don't get it. Other than those 2 things I'm perfectly healthy LOL !

PS: I am at roughly 10 to 11 % body fat right now. I plan on keeping it below 13% even while bulking. I like that saying "If you can't flex it, lose it!" ... unless "it" is an ear or an eye lol ... then again I can wiggle my ears so I'm good. :tu:

EDIT:: Even with my high BP my resting heart rate is like 65-75, depending on if anyone is stressing me out at work. If I'm really freaking out I can get it as high as 85 or 90, but things have to be going way wrong around here. When I run I am anywhere between 140 to 175 if it is LISS, HIIT will get me to the 180s range.

Target LDL is less than 100.

Sounds like you have a wide pulse pressure. In a young person that can indicate an increased stroke volume but it is also common in idiopathic hypertension (idiopathic = don't know what causes it). Almost sounds likes you could have an overactive thyroid or cardiac hypertrophy. Maybe a pheochromocytoma. Of course these are just speculations of things that could account for your symptoms. On the other hand you could have a high resting pulse and blood pressure from white coat syndrome ie you get nervous when someone is measuring it so it gets higher. Bottom line we can speculate all day on the internet but gotta see the doctors for some solid answers.

What meds are you on BTW?

Just Priniville 20mg. To clarify, my BP is high, resting heart rate seems normal 65 to 70 bpm... It only spikes in like normal stress situations, or exercise. My friend has high BP and is overweight and he has the same BP as me sometimes and his heart rate is crazy like 100+ bpm resting!

The other thing I noticed is that I start the day out w. a higher BP and then it drops as the day progresses. In the afternoon I have seen it as low as 105 / 58 ( with meds ).

EDIT: The priniville works ok, nothing stelar as far as BP reduction.

I don't like to threadjack here, but I'd like to address your post about your chest pains Virtualadrian. Your story sounds a lot like mine, except my symptoms are different and I don't have high BP. I get severely painful attacks, which I think are coronary artery spasms and have had them for the past 6 years or so. My doctor brushed me off at first too, said it was gas :rolleyes: I've never gotten an official diagnosis because I know firstly how hard it's going to be to diagnose, and secondly how invasive and expensive it will probably be (probably a cath or nuclear scan) for my situation.

I'd suggest you go to a cardiologist, like you said you were going to, and I'm surprised your doctor hasn't referred you to one.

Chest pain can be a multitude of things: pleuritic (lungs), muscoskeletal, gastrointestinal (heartburn or gas), cardiac, or even other causes like a gallbladder attack or spasm of the esophogas.

When you go to the cardiologist he'll do a thorough consultation and probably give you an ekg, and/or a holter monitor, which is a 24 hour ekg that you can take home with you. Since your complaint is of chest pain and not palpitations however, they are more likely to give you an echocardiogram instead, which is an ultrasound of your heart so that they can see if your heart is functionally normal. The holters and echos are standard, after that they get into nuclear scans and catherizations.

But yeah it sounds to me like it might be angina. Especially if you are getting warm and breaking into a sweat. Hypertension can increase the likelihood of experiencing angina too so that might be a possible cause. I dont get my pains during heavy meals, but my heart rate skyrockets and it starts skipping beats (PVC's) as evidenced by my holter that I had done, which was totally cool because I knew something was up. I also fall asleep and wake up with a raging headache, but that only happens if I eat crap food.

The best advice I can give you is to read up a lot and go into the doctor informed. Really be very specific about your symptoms and don't let them be dismissive. Show them that this issue is important to you.