Ostizzle
June 13th, 2007, 10:22 AM
..
|
View Full Version : Bulking progress on schedule? Ostizzle June 13th, 2007, 10:22 AM .. Gordo June 13th, 2007, 11:14 AM On my part, I think there have been days where I haven't gotten the full amount of calories in, and I haven't been calculating the ratio of protein/carbs/fats. The only supplements I take are whey protein, GNC Mass XXX, multi, glucosamine, and daily amino acid. Yeah that's a problem. MassXXX is up to you, but I'd save my money personally. Superset workouts (while fun to experiment with) are usually reserved for advanced lifters, who already have a few traning years under their belt. If you've been doing that for 6 weeks straight, it would be a good time to switch up if you are starting to stall. You really don't have enough compound movments in your program and I would suggest revamping to something that is a little more basic (rowing, deads, squats, military press) with progressively heavier lifts (try to get more pulling in than pushing if you can. We tend to do programs that favor pushing when we tend to encounter pulling movements more often than not in everyday life). Most importantly, give it time. Building muscle (for many people) is measured in years....not weeks. tennisball June 13th, 2007, 12:38 PM Superset workouts (while fun to experiment with) are usually reserved for advanced lifters, who already have a few traning years under their belt. Actually, what he's doing is more like antagonist sets- pairing opposing (or unrelated) muscle groups to increase training density. Some of his pairing overlap a bit, but this isn't a bad way to train every other week or every few weeks. On a bulk, I may take longer rest periods to lift heavier weights with more volume, though. Ostizzle- I would try something new, maybe focusing on strength, and slowly moving away from the 3x12 scheme. How about this, for example: Mon pick a weight where you come one shy of failure, ex. for 5x6, pick a weight that you could get 7 or 8 reps, but stop at 6. If you feel like it, go to failure on your last set (safely of course). Dips - 5x6 Pull up - 5x6 (if you can do a lot of pullups, hold a DB between your feet) DB Upright Row - 5x6 Curls - 3x8 Hanging Pikes or weighted crunches- 4x10 Tues Back Squat - 5x6 Romanian Deadlift - 5x6 Step up - 6x4 (each leg) Calf raise - 4x8 Thurs Bent-over row - 3-4x12 Bench press - 4x10 Overhead press - 4x10 Skull Crushers - 3x12 Shrugs - 3x12 Abs - 3x15 Fri Stiff leg deadlift or Good Mornings - 4x10 Front Squat - 4x10 Lunges - 3x15 (each leg) Leg curl - 3x12 Calves - 3x15 DieselB June 13th, 2007, 10:08 PM Sorry to go OT but what kind of academy?? Ostizzle June 14th, 2007, 08:24 PM Thanks a lot for the replies guys. Tennisball had it right, I'm doing antagonistic sets because I don't have much time to work out and am trying to get in as much as possible. I wasn't correct in saying that I've never really weight trained before, I am not new to lifting I just haven't been in a routine for a while because I never saw results. Now I realize that I was nowhere close to eating as much as my body type required in order to bulk up. Mass XXX is really the only spendy supplement I'm buying because I found it damn near impossible to pack in 4200 calories a day without it. It's a quick easy way to get clean(er) calories in. Tennisball, as I said before time is my main constraint and I'm not sure that I would be able to follow the type of routine you laid out. Not only is time an issue but I'm working out at home on a home gym and not all of those exercises are an option. Would it be effective to stick to the 3 set routine and lift either heavier or extremely slow like 6 seconds out and then 6 seconds back? You mentioned changing my routine if I begin to stall, how often do you find that you need to change? I'm not sure that it's so much my routine now as it is my diet. I'll have to tweak it to see if I can notice any results. But I'd like an idea of how often I should switch it up. Thanks a lot! SwoleCat June 14th, 2007, 09:53 PM The one positive here even though poundage wise you haven't gained what you desired, it's all been LEAN gains. Lean muscle mass, I don't see any fat being added or even excess bloat. So, knowing that, make some key adjustments to your dietary approach and get yourself growing a bit quicker. If you begin to add fat too quickly or more than you want to gain (use pics every 2-3 weeks to compare, not just the scale), you can either reduce your macros (others call them calories, I think of them seperately at all times and for good reasons) or you can add some cardio in on your off days from weight training. At least LEAN mass progress is better than no lean mass at all, or fat mass. :tucool: ~SC~ Ostizzle June 15th, 2007, 10:13 PM Awesome, thanks a lot for the help and encouragement SwoleCat! DieselB: Law Enforcement Academy :tu: DieselB June 16th, 2007, 02:53 AM Awesome, thanks a lot for the help and encouragement SwoleCat! DieselB: Law Enforcement Academy :tu: Nice man. I was a deputy in FL for 2 years. I'm now in CA applying to agencies. Taking a long time but its almost over:cool: |